Unverified Voracity Defends Enormous Birdman Comment Count

Brian

1,000 words on the basketball season. The Daily's Ariel Bond obviates the need for further comment:

Mens Gymnastics meet vs. Oklahoma Saturday, February 20th, 2010.  (Anna Schulte/Daily)

For this service we thank her.

On Conway. There has been a huge e-gument in the aftermath of MI WR Shawn Conway's commitment. I'm kind of annoyed. I really hate it when a kid commits out of nowhere in February and people go nuts, pro or con. I think they go excessively negative in response to the school of mindless boosterism that regards every commitment as a victory, but often the end result is like the fights I had with my brother as a kid: I would hit him first, but not that hard. Then he would hit me back harder than was justified, so I would hit him as hard as he hit me. From there it would escalate until we were rolling around on the ground trying to bite each other's eye sockets.

In Conway's specific case, he is an in-state kid who they have seen extensively at their 7-on-7. He's 6'4" and has enormous hands. He won't turn 17 until June. His speed may be questionable—or his highlight tape might not be sped up like many are. There's a good reason he's under the radar: he didn't play until last year because of transfers and when he did get on the field it was for a poor team with a poor quarterback. This doesn't seem too similar to a Drew Dileo or Antonio Kinard because the things that held those guys back in the rankings were physical limitations. Conway has more upward mobility from a rankings perspective. Even cranky local fixture Magnus, an actual football coach, likes him.

And also: it's not like Dileo or Kinard has proven himself either way yet. Rodriguez built a good program with guys like them. At the very least it's clear they trust their own evaluations. That's a better state of affairs than this one:

"I used to go in the coaches' offices, and sometimes they would literally have Rivals.com up on their screen," said Matt Shodell, who covers UM and its recruiting for CaneSport.com. "I won't name the coaches, but they would be writing names down on pieces of paper. I don't know how much film they were looking at."

That was Miami under Coker.

This argument is a lot like people complaining in November that the class was going to have two defensive players in it.

No research necessary. Texas is apparently excluded from the short list of 15 schools the Big Ten is doing research on. Barry Alvarez:

"They basically broke down what they would bring to the table," Alvarez said at a meeting of the UW athletic board. "They talked about academics. They talked about size. They talked about size of their arenas. They talked about attendance. They talked about the populace in that specific area."

According to Alvarez that process will continue, and Big Ten Commissioner James E. Delany could make a recommendation to the university presidents this summer.

"I think it could be one (school), or I think it could be multiple." …

"In our initial study, there wasn't anything on Texas," Alvarez said.

Scale back your world domination plans where a 36-team Big Ten fights Mecha-Godzilla every January first, it seems. Alvarez also asserted that Notre Dame is not likely, though he didn't specifically mention their absence from the list of 15 teams.

On the other hand, researching Texas's suitability is a waste of time. Here is a million-dollar consultant's report on whether Texas joining the Big Ten would be a net benefit for the conference: hell yes.

Goalie acquisition. A few days ago I mentioned a potential Jack Campbell replacement, one Jeff Teglia of the USHL. Here's another kid down to Michigan and Minnesota. He is lanky Joel Vienneau of the OPJHL:

"[Michigan's] Mel Pearson saw me last weekend and he thought I played really well," the 6-3, 185-pound netminder said. "He likes my size. They haven't offered [officially] yet but they are very interested in me because they lost Jack Campbell to major juniors and have a big need."

Like Teglia, he's putting up excellent numbers. Unlike Teglia, he's playing in a league that provides questionable competition. Even so, a quick googling of both gives the impression Vienneau is the better prospect. There's the Minnesota offer, for one, and then there's a number of people on Hockey's Future insisting that the latest CSB rankings for Vienneau—29th NA goalie—are preposterous and the kid is an easy top ten prospect. While HF folk are easily mockable, there is some truth in the hive mind. The Hockey News featured him as a prospect to watch and guaranteed he'd be picked in the upcoming draft. The same guy called him out as a potential mid-round pick in an interview. A leap in the final CSBs seems assured.

Yost Built surfaced an earlier article in which Vienneau declared he was "95-99 percent likely" to end up a Gopher, but that was before Jack Campbell changed his mind and Michigan started looking around. Michigan has a big depth chart advantage. While Minnesota also has a junior starter with a questionable save percentage, Michigan's backups are walk-ons who are not threats to play. Minnesota has a sophomore who went in the fourth round of the NHL draft. Vienneau plans a visit to Michigan after his season ends and will decide then.

Elsewhere in hockey recruiting, the Cedar Rapids Gazette has a fluff piece on Roughriders teammates and Michigan commits Derek DeBlois and Mac Bennett, who have known each other since they were "tiny." They also surf. On the East Coast. So there you go. I'm curious as to whether DeBlois, currently slated for 2011, will move his enrollment up a year. There's a spot with the departure of Robbie Czarnik, and Michigan needs forwards who can put the puck in the net.

Star system… comes to hockey. College Hockey 24/7 has release a top 50 list that features a ton of incoming Michigan folk:

4. Jon Merrill
13. Mac Bennett
31. Kevin Clare
35. Luke Moffatt
37. Jacob Fallon

Michigan has the third-most names on the list with five. Minnesota has six, Notre Dame seven. Oddly, Miami is shut out and Michigan State has only one guy—goalie Willie Yanakeff is #50. Both schools are bringing in fairly hefty classes, too.

It appears that uncommitted recruits were not included, because Teglia and Vienneau are absent and it seems hard to justify Yanakeff over Teglia when Yanakeff has an .887 save percentage and Teglia has a .918 in the same league.

Etc.: UMHoops scouts Carlton Brundidge and Cody Zeller. Baseball won two against a good OVC team, lost two to Texas Tech, and lost Ryan Lamarre for "an extended period of time." I hate you so much, 2009-10. The final ice dancing competition goes down tonight; Davis and White are in second. Victor's Rally speeches from the Youtubes.

Comments

Rorschach

February 22nd, 2010 at 1:25 PM ^

"Scale back your world domination plans where a 36-team Big Ten fights Mecha-Godzilla every January first"

This has to be one of the finest thoughts the internets have ever seen.

Six Zero

February 22nd, 2010 at 3:06 PM ^

that MechaGodzilla has a sort of inferiority complex with regards to Godzilla. He's always a second thought, always just a poor man's version of the original, always trying to get out of the shadow of the crowd favorite, always mentioned in the same breath as his predecessor, always just a few letters more than the real deal, and always trying so very hard to overcome this stigma and develop his own identity.

So yes, naturally we're speaking of Michigan State in your tournament.

Duncan

February 22nd, 2010 at 1:34 PM ^

"or his highlight tape might not be sped up like many are"

Thank you. It seems so obvious to me that so many highlight tapes have been sped up. Maybe there needs to be a 'Fake Video speed' out of 5 on commit videos.

Magnus

February 22nd, 2010 at 4:18 PM ^

FWIW, I've heard that athletic departments do employ people to monitor recruiting sites. I don't know that it's any one person's sole purpose at work, but they at least keep track of what the kids are saying and who's blowing up.

Really, it's not a bad strategy to use those recruiting sites. You only have so many people on staff to do the digging, and even independently contracted recruiting services have their limitations. You probably don't want to offer a kid just because he's a Rivals 4-star or whatever, but it might encourage you to do some more digging on him and see if he's worth it.

Carcajous

February 22nd, 2010 at 4:23 PM ^

This makes perfect sense to me. Just as it would be a huge mistake for a coaching staff to rely solely or primarily on a recruiting site for information, it would similarly be a huge mistake for a coaching staff to completely ignore relevant information/data that is easily accessible.

umchicago

February 22nd, 2010 at 6:34 PM ^

does the um coaching staff think this kid is one of the top 20 WRs in the country?

if so, then i have no problem offering him this early. if not, then can't we show love to this guy while still keeping others on the radar. and can't we offer him later? would it hurt to seem him play a bit more in the fall?

2011 is a small recruiting class. i don't put the end-all-be-all in recruiting #stars, but i can't figure offering unranked kids so early in the process. just my epinion.

El Jeffe

February 22nd, 2010 at 8:38 PM ^

Agree on the utility of recruiting services. However, this quote from a comment after Magnus's level-headed and emphatically uncranky post is what they hath wrought:

I think it's a bit early to offer a scholarship to a low 3 star guy in a year when we'll have 16 or so scholarships but if he should be a 4 star then I'm much happier with the decision.

First of all, he isn't rated at all yet. Second, whether he turns out to be a three or a four star (or a two or a five), it'll STILL BE THE SAME GUY!!!! SAME GUY!!!! NOT DIFFERENT GUY!!!! SAME GUY!!!!!

/Jerry and George caps x-plosion