UNVERFIED FORAGITY FLARB FLEEB FLOO
HAI GUYS WHAT'S—
No, just kidding. We're back to normal service except for the occasional outburst of spine-threatening sobs and pauses to shake the MGoFist at the sky.
So how screwed are we? Oh… I'd imagine pretty screwed. We've had to consolidate the "can Teric Jones/Michael Shaw/Denard Robinson/Will Campbell play corner?" threads in one big annoying glob of Kubler-Ross bargaining. But at least we've gotten some excellent paint action out of it:
From the Shredder, naturally.
Also there's this from Antidaily:
Even the house organs, who were busy dismissing the importance of Justin Turner's departure last week, admit this is a "devastating blow" to what was already a ramshackle Burmese lean-to of a secondary. Rittenberg says Woolfolk's name would have been "right at the top" of players Michigan could not afford to lose and asks if Pac-Man Jones or Charles Woodson have any eligibility left (answer compliance should absolutely not double-check: HELL YES). Orson breaks out Crazy Old Testament God; Burgeoning Wolverine Star goes with that damn owl again for some reason.
And UMGoBlog gets all scientific by ripping Dorsey, Turner, and Woolfolk off Michigan's roster in NCAA 2011 and seeing what happens:
| PASS YPG | PASS TDS | PPG | RECORD | RODRIGUEZ | |
| Before | 200 | 19 | 24.1 | 7-5 | "I feel happy!" |
| After | 235 | 24 | 28.4 | 5-7 | [thud] |
That last column is my addition. Obviously.
Io-wha? Yeah, you see what I did there. Black Heart Gold Pants got all huffy about the idea Iowa might be overrated. While I was wrong about how many defensive starters Iowa lost (it's three, not five) and this somewhat mitigates their situation, when you deploy the Mathlete luck graph in an attempt to argue you weren't that lucky last year, well, Braves and Birds treats you like it usually treats Stewart Mandel:
You know your argument sucks when you're fighting the notion that your team was lucky in 2009 and you cite a chart that shows your team to have been the second luckiest team in the conference. …
As a result of Iowa's inability to demonstrate its superiority over Arkansas State and Northern Iowa, every ranking system that accounts for data beyond record and strength of schedule pegged Iowa in the lower part of the top 20. The Sagarin Predictor had Iowa 17th. Sports Reference's SRS measure had Iowa 19th, as did Football Outsiders. In short, you can accept what reams of research tells us about football, which is that points, yards, and drive outcomes are a better indication of a team's merit and contain less noise than the final record itself. Or, you can reject all of that, put on a dumb hat, and wait to be punked by Fire Joe Morgan.
The chart thing's even better since it shows Iowa was seriously unlucky the year before, puncturing any argument that Ferentz has a knack for making chicken salad out of Stanziballs. Why is it that when I make a bleedingly obvious comment like "Penn State's quarterback situation sucks" or "Iowa was lucky last year and I am skeptical of them this year" people get all mad? Go ahead, predict Michigan's secondary will be a black hole of despair. I won't stop you.
Hockey guy but sort of the wrong year. Michigan's finally picked up another hockey commit, with 2012 forward Justin Selman picking Michigan a couple days ago. Selman joins Boo Nieves and Connor Carrick in that class; Michigan is still way, way short for 2011, with one guy currently scheduled to replace Michigan's extensive senior class.
As per usual with hockey recruits more than a year out from the draft, information on Selman is sparse. USHR has a positive note as one of a dozen or so "A" players from the '08 Select 15 festival:
-- 5’10”, 165 lb. Justin Selman. A smooth skating late ’93 from Upper Saddle River, NJ and the NJ Avalanche. He can make plays. Strong hockey sense. (White)
He's grown a couple inches since then. Other schools visited were RPI (meh) and UNH (good). There are a couple comments on Hockey's Future, for what it's worth:
Selman- Great at faceoffs. Had a growth spurt and is suprisingly strong. Solid skater with the drive to score. doubt he goes to the O.
Same guy:
Justin Selman- 5 10 160- A great skater and an absolute wizard on face offs. He is physical and has grown a lot in the past two years. A young 93 and still is one of hte best in a strong 93 Atlantic district age group.
Selman is not really a pro prospect I guess but he is still a very good player who could receive consideration for 2012.
Fiutakin' it. Since this guy exists…
…and so does walk-on kicker and varsity soccer star Justin Meram, this Free Press typo (print) goes from pedestrian to "Evan Metrics" competitor:
It is always dangerous to taunt the embarrassing typo Gods—a couple of months ago I called PSU's Tom Bradley "Steve" or something—but, man, that was posted yesterday and passed around to great laughter and still hasn't been updated as of this post.
Expansion detail trickle. A couple more items from Delany:
- A ninth game likely wont happen until 2015 at the earliest, and…
- Straight geography is not happening when it comes to Big Ten divisions: “We didn't think there's any way we could achieve principle one [competitiveness] and two [rivalry preservation] if we were rigid about geographic contiguity. We are aware of geography, but we're not going to be driven by it.”
There's a rumor out there that Michigan and Ohio State will be split into separate divisions, which I find abhorrent because it necessitates protected cross-division games, which are dumb, and guarantees that Michigan will be elaborately screwed by that cross-division game being Ohio State, guaranteeing them a brutal schedule year-in, year-out as Ohio State and Penn State go play with Purdue, Indiana, Northwestern, and Illinois.
Remember when… wingless helmets were the thing we were panicking about?
It was a simpler, more annoying time because everyone hysteria was unjustified. Here's to annoyance.
Etc.: Hoover Street Rag breaks down Michigan logos past. Seth Wickersham's ESPN the Magazine article($) is insider, it is also the second MSM article in the past couple weeks to break down the Michigan document dump months after Heads Should Roll. It's probably worth your time, though. I don't buy the idea that compliance couldn't dare escalate from their perpetual Labadie pings; that was a screwup on their part, though most of the problem lies with the bungling underlings and the system that allowed the bungling to continue so long.
August 18th, 2010 at 9:28 PM ^
Fresh, I agree that we cannot be sure of the type, severity, and outlook of Woolf's injury unless we look at the MRI/X-ray personally. However, I do have extremely flimsy evidence to back up my suggestion that Woolfolk's injury is a Talocrural Dislocation With Associated Weber Type C Fibular Fracture.
First- from Angelique Changalis on twitter (now a primary source?) and also sbnation we know that it was the fibula that fractured.
"Butch said broken fibula was determined after ankle reset. Non-contact injury. Foot caught and went....wrong direction."
Second- The fracture was noted after the ankle was reset.
I am not a D.O. I am not a doctor or medical student of any kind, so I must defer to you J. Fresh. Would a D.O. perform a reset on an ankle that may be suffering from any of the following injuries before performing an x-ray or MRI:
Subtalar dislocation, maisonneuve fracture, malleolar fracture, deltoid ligament rupture, syndesmosis disruption?
It seems that resetting an ankle with extensive ligament or tendon damage before MRI could cause as much or more damage than the original injury. Is it possible for a subtalar dislocation to result in a fractured fibula? A dislocation that low would seem to stress other bones. I am not sure here, could you tell us the basic treatment protocol for trauma of this type? Regardless, comparing this situation and this conversation to "my brother hurt his ankle once and he played next week" is a gross generalization. Do you think there is enough evidence to suggest that the best case scenario (of a worst case scenario) actually occurred here? Is that too much optimism on a bleak day (even bleaker - Tate prove that high maintenance bimbo wrong!)? Does the Angry Michigan Defensive Secondary Hating God lack a sense of irony?
Fresh, I agree that we cannot be sure of the type, severity, and outlook of Woolf's injury unless we look at the MRI/X-ray personally. However, I do have extremely flimsy evidence to back up my suggestion that Woolfolk's injury is a Talocrural Dislocation With Associated Weber Type C Fibular Fracture.
First- from Angelique Changalis on twitter (now a primary source?) and also sbnation we know that it was the fibula that fractured.
"Butch said broken fibula was determined after ankle reset. Non-contact injury. Foot caught and went....wrong direction."
Second- The fracture was noted after the ankle was reset.
I am not a D.O. I am not a doctor or medical student of any kind, so I must defer to you J. Fresh. Would a D.O. perform a reset on an ankle that may be suffering from any of the following injuries before performing an x-ray or MRI:
Subtalar dislocation, maisonneuve fracture, malleolar fracture, deltoid ligament rupture, syndesmosis disruption?
It seems that resetting an ankle with extensive ligament or tendon damage before MRI could cause as much or more damage than the original injury. Is it possible for a subtalar dislocation to result in a fractured fibula? A dislocation that low would seem to stress other bones. I am not sure here, could you tell us the basic treatment protocol for trauma of this type? Regardless, comparing this situation and this conversation to "my brother hurt his ankle once and he played next week" is a gross generalization. Do you think there is enough evidence to suggest that the best case scenario (of a worst case scenario) actually occurred here? Is that too much optimism on a bleak day (even bleaker - Tate prove that high maintenance bimbo wrong!)? Does the Angry Michigan Defensive Secondary Hating God lack a sense of irony?
Fresh, I agree that we cannot be sure of the type, severity, and outlook of Woolf's injury unless we look at the MRI/X-ray personally. However, I do have extremely flimsy evidence to back up my suggestion that Woolfolk's injury is a Talocrural Dislocation With Associated Weber Type C Fibular Fracture.
First- from Angelique Changalis on twitter (now a primary source?) and also sbnation we know that it was the fibula that fractured.
"Butch said broken fibula was determined after ankle reset. Non-contact injury. Foot caught and went....wrong direction."
Second- The fracture was noted after the ankle was reset.
I am not a D.O. I am not a doctor or medical student of any kind, so I must defer to you J. Fresh. Would a D.O. perform a reset on an ankle that may be suffering from any of the following injuries before performing an x-ray or MRI:
Subtalar dislocation, maisonneuve fracture, malleolar fracture, deltoid ligament rupture, syndesmosis disruption?
It seems that resetting an ankle with extensive ligament or tendon damage before MRI could cause as much or more damage than the original injury. Is it possible for a subtalar dislocation to result in a fractured fibula? A dislocation that low would seem to stress other bones. I am not sure here, could you tell us the basic treatment protocol for trauma of this type? Regardless, comparing this situation and this conversation to "my brother hurt his ankle once and he played next week" is a gross generalization. Do you think there is enough evidence to suggest that the best case scenario (of a worst case scenario) actually occurred here? Is that too much optimism on a bleak day (even bleaker - Tate prove that high maintenance bimbo wrong!)? Does the Angry Michigan Defensive Secondary Hating God lack a sense of irony?
Fresh, I agree that we cannot be sure of the type, severity, and outlook of Woolf's injury unless we look at the MRI/X-ray personally. However, I do have extremely flimsy evidence to back up my suggestion that Woolfolk's injury is a Talocrural Dislocation With Associated Weber Type C Fibular Fracture.
First- from Angelique Changalis on twitter (now a primary source?) and also sbnation we know that it was the fibula that fractured.
"Butch said broken fibula was determined after ankle reset. Non-contact injury. Foot caught and went....wrong direction."
Second- The fracture was noted after the ankle was reset.
I am not a D.O. I am not a doctor or medical student of any kind, so I must defer to you J. Fresh. Would a D.O. perform a reset on an ankle that may be suffering from any of the following injuries before performing an x-ray or MRI:
Subtalar dislocation, maisonneuve fracture, malleolar fracture, deltoid ligament rupture, syndesmosis disruption?
It seems that resetting an ankle with extensive ligament or tendon damage before MRI could cause as much or more damage than the original injury. Is it possible for a subtalar dislocation to result in a fractured fibula? A dislocation that low would seem to stress other bones. I am not sure here, could you tell us the basic treatment protocol for trauma of this type? Regardless, comparing this situation and this conversation to "my brother hurt his ankle once and he played next week" is a gross generalization. Do you think there is enough evidence to suggest that the best case scenario (of a worst case scenario) actually occurred here? Is that too much optimism on a bleak day (even bleaker - Tate prove that high maintenance bimbo wrong!)? Does the Angry Michigan Defensive Secondary Hating God lack a sense of irony?
Fresh, I agree that we cannot be sure of the type, severity, and outlook of Woolf's injury unless we look at the MRI/X-ray personally. However, I do have extremely flimsy evidence to back up my suggestion that Woolfolk's injury is a Talocrural Dislocation With Associated Weber Type C Fibular Fracture.
First- from Angelique Changalis on twitter (now a primary source?) and also sbnation we know that it was the fibula that fractured.
"Butch said broken fibula was determined after ankle reset. Non-contact injury. Foot caught and went....wrong direction."
Second- The fracture was noted after the ankle was reset.
I am not a D.O. I am not a doctor or medical student of any kind, so I must defer to you J. Fresh. Would a D.O. perform a reset on an ankle that may be suffering from any of the following injuries before performing an x-ray or MRI:
Subtalar dislocation, maisonneuve fracture, malleolar fracture, deltoid ligament rupture, syndesmosis disruption?
It seems that resetting an ankle with extensive ligament or tendon damage before MRI could cause as much or more damage than the original injury. Is it possible for a subtalar dislocation to result in a fractured fibula? A dislocation that low would seem to stress other bones. I am not sure here, could you tell us the basic treatment protocol for trauma of this type? Regardless, comparing this situation and this conversation to "my brother hurt his ankle once and he played next week" is a gross generalization. Do you think there is enough evidence to suggest that the best case scenario (of a worst case scenario) actually occurred here? Is that too much optimism on a bleak day (even bleaker - Tate prove that high maintenance bimbo wrong!)? Does the Angry Michigan Defensive Secondary Hating God lack a sense of irony?
Fresh, I agree that we cannot be sure of the type, severity, and outlook of Woolf's injury unless we look at the MRI/X-ray personally. However, I do have extremely flimsy evidence to back up my suggestion that Woolfolk's injury is a Talocrural Dislocation With Associated Weber Type C Fibular Fracture.
First- from Angelique Changalis on twitter (now a primary source?) and also sbnation we know that it was the fibula that fractured.
"Butch said broken fibula was determined after ankle reset. Non-contact injury. Foot caught and went....wrong direction."
Second- The fracture was noted after the ankle was reset.
I am not a D.O. I am not a doctor or medical student of any kind, so I must defer to you J. Fresh. Would a D.O. perform a reset on an ankle that may be suffering from any of the following injuries before performing an x-ray or MRI:
Subtalar dislocation, maisonneuve fracture, malleolar fracture, deltoid ligament rupture, syndesmosis disruption?
It seems that resetting an ankle with extensive ligament or tendon damage before MRI could cause as much or more damage than the original injury. Is it possible for a subtalar dislocation to result in a fractured fibula? A dislocation that low would seem to stress other bones. I am not sure here, could you tell us the basic treatment protocol for trauma of this type? Regardless, comparing this situation and this conversation to "my brother hurt his ankle once and he played next week" is a gross generalization. Do you think there is enough evidence to suggest that the best case scenario (of a worst case scenario) actually occurred here? Is that too much optimism on a bleak day (even bleaker - Tate prove that high maintenance bimbo wrong!)? Does the Angry Michigan Defensive Secondary Hating God lack a sense of irony?
Fresh, I agree that we cannot be sure of the type, severity, and outlook of Woolf's injury unless we look at the MRI/X-ray personally. However, I do have extremely flimsy evidence to back up my suggestion that Woolfolk's injury is a Talocrural Dislocation With Associated Weber Type C Fibular Fracture.
First- from Angelique Changalis on twitter (now a primary source?) and also sbnation we know that it was the fibula that fractured.
"Butch said broken fibula was determined after ankle reset. Non-contact injury. Foot caught and went....wrong direction."
Second- The fracture was noted after the ankle was reset.
I am not a D.O. I am not a doctor or medical student of any kind, so I must defer to you J. Fresh. Would a D.O. perform a reset on an ankle that may be suffering from any of the following injuries before performing an x-ray or MRI:
Subtalar dislocation, maisonneuve fracture, malleolar fracture, deltoid ligament rupture, syndesmosis disruption?
It seems that resetting an ankle with extensive ligament or tendon damage before MRI could cause as much or more damage than the original injury. Is it possible for a subtalar dislocation to result in a fractured fibula? A dislocation that low would seem to stress other bones. I am not sure here, could you tell us the basic treatment protocol for trauma of this type? Regardless, comparing this situation and this conversation to "my brother hurt his ankle once and he played next week" is a gross generalization. Do you think there is enough evidence to suggest that the best case scenario (of a worst case scenario) actually occurred here? Is that too much optimism on a bleak day (even bleaker - Tate prove that high maintenance bimbo wrong!)? Does the Angry Michigan Defensive Secondary Hating God lack a sense of irony?
Fresh, I agree that we cannot be sure of the type, severity, and outlook of Woolf's injury unless we look at the MRI/X-ray personally. However, I do have extremely flimsy evidence to back up my suggestion that Woolfolk's injury is a Talocrural Dislocation With Associated Weber Type C Fibular Fracture.
First- from Angelique Changalis on twitter (now a primary source?) and also sbnation we know that it was the fibula that fractured.
"Butch said broken fibula was determined after ankle reset. Non-contact injury. Foot caught and went....wrong direction."
Second- The fracture was noted after the ankle was reset.
I am not a D.O. I am not a doctor or medical student of any kind, so I must defer to you J. Fresh. Would a D.O. perform a reset on an ankle that may be suffering from any of the following injuries before performing an x-ray or MRI:
Subtalar dislocation, maisonneuve fracture, malleolar fracture, deltoid ligament rupture, syndesmosis disruption?
It seems that resetting an ankle with extensive ligament or tendon damage before MRI could cause as much or more damage than the original injury. Is it possible for a subtalar dislocation to result in a fractured fibula? A dislocation that low would seem to stress other bones. I am not sure here, could you tell us the basic treatment protocol for trauma of this type? Regardless, comparing this situation and this conversation to "my brother hurt his ankle once and he played next week" is a gross generalization. Do you think there is enough evidence to suggest that the best case scenario (of a worst case scenario) actually occurred here? Is that too much optimism on a bleak day (even bleaker - Tate prove that high maintenance bimbo wrong!)? Does the Angry Michigan Defensive Secondary Hating God lack a sense of irony?
Fresh, I agree that we cannot be sure of the type, severity, and outlook of Woolf's injury unless we look at the MRI/X-ray personally. However, I do have extremely flimsy evidence to back up my suggestion that Woolfolk's injury is a Talocrural Dislocation With Associated Weber Type C Fibular Fracture.
First- from Angelique Changalis on twitter (now a primary source?) and also sbnation we know that it was the fibula that fractured.
"Butch said broken fibula was determined after ankle reset. Non-contact injury. Foot caught and went....wrong direction."
Second- The fracture was noted after the ankle was reset.
I am not a D.O. I am not a doctor or medical student of any kind, so I must defer to you J. Fresh. Would a D.O. perform a reset on an ankle that may be suffering from any of the following injuries before performing an x-ray or MRI:
Subtalar dislocation, maisonneuve fracture, malleolar fracture, deltoid ligament rupture, syndesmosis disruption?
It seems that resetting an ankle with extensive ligament or tendon damage before MRI could cause as much or more damage than the original injury. Is it possible for a subtalar dislocation to result in a fractured fibula? A dislocation that low would seem to stress other bones. I am not sure here, could you tell us the basic treatment protocol for trauma of this type? Regardless, comparing this situation and this conversation to "my brother hurt his ankle once and he played next week" is a gross generalization. Do you think there is enough evidence to suggest that the best case scenario (of a worst case scenario) actually occurred here? Is that too much optimism on a bleak day (even bleaker - Tate prove that high maintenance bimbo wrong!)? Does the Angry Michigan Defensive Secondary Hating God lack a sense of irony?
August 19th, 2010 at 1:11 PM ^
Dislocations are obvious when you see them, and they should be reduced (set) immediately. You want to realign the joint asap to take the pressure off the soft tissues and prevent further damage, not to mention it feels a hell of a lot better when it is reduced. Most good trainers can and should do them right on the scene if the team doc isn't there. You are less likely to get a fibula fracture with a subtalar dislocation than than an ankle dislocation (tibiotalar joint). If he really had an ankle dislocation to go along with the fibula fracture, then it is likely he tore up ligaments on the other side of his ankle where he would benefit from surgery. Again, without seeing the films all of this is speculation so on one hand he could just require a cast for a while but if it were severe he could require extensive surgery and a very long road to recovery, possibly necessitating a second surgery in the future. Angry Michigan defensive secondary hating god does have a sense of irony, as all we have been asking for after 2 years is a break, and we got one. Oh man that was a bad one.
August 20th, 2010 at 3:01 AM ^
J. Fresh, that was incredibly informative, and it had a witty conclusion. I will be calling you out next time I have questions regarding Michigan football and injuries. You sir, should be posting regular Diaries!
Cheers!
SC
August 18th, 2010 at 8:22 PM ^
Weber type C play basketball at Michigan?
August 18th, 2010 at 8:05 PM ^
The sky is not falling. Remember the fall of 1997? Michigan was coming off of four straight seasons of four losses each. The media and our rivals were suggesting that the "M" in Michigan had come to stand for "mediocre". There were plenty of "Fire Lloyd" t-shirts in the stands on Saturdays. Starting senior defensive tackle Ben Huff had trashed his knee in the summer. Senior linebacker and co-captain Eric Mayes blew out his knee in the Indiana game. Junior safety Daydrion Taylor was lost for the season after a big hit against Penn State. At quarterback, we had a kid named Griese who was a former walk-on. Yeah, things really looked bleak. Until we ran the table at 12-0 and won a National Championship in the Rose Bowl. Forget the gloom and doom. Players will step up. Rodriguez and the Wolverines will meet the challenge, win at least 7 this year and bring the Big Ten title home to Ann Arbor in 2011. Call me crazy, but I believe the future is bright for Wolverine Nation.
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