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By Brian — December 16th, 2008 at 5:02 PM — 81 comments

In no particular order:

Jeff Casteel, West Virginia DC. Casteel passed up the opportunity to follow Rodriguez to Ann Arbor last fall, but maybe a year of life under Bill Stewart—and the job security that goes along with that—might have changed his mind.

Many will be skeptical of the 3-3-5, but West Virginia finished 8th and 9th in scoring defense the past two years, though yardage was considerably worse (35th) this year. I also note that the recruiting class has an ton of safety/OLB types (Jones, Hawthorne, Gordon, Emilien, Bell, maybe the other Gordon) that are 4-5 spots on the field in the 3-3-5.

corwin-brown Corwin Brown, Notre Dame DC. Brown is a Michigan alum that Charlie Weis chose to be his defensive coordinator; before that he was an NFL DBs coach. In Brown's time at ND he's killed Chicago recruiting and racked up kind of eh results on the field. This year ND was 38th in total defense, 43rd in scoring. They were 65th in yardage in Brown's first season, but given the crater that was Notre Dame's offense it's hard to pass any judgments.

Brown's a high risk, high upside kind of guy. He'd be a dynamite recruiter if his returns from ND are any indication, but he's only been a DC for two years and hasn't exactly torn it up. More damningly, the defenses Notre Dame has run against Michigan the last two years haven't made any sense: ND sits back in a cover-two shell and lets running backs race up and down the field against them even with Ryan Mallett and Steven Threet the opposing quarterbacks. I guess it made sense this year once Notre Dame raced out to that lead. In 2007? Not so much.

Also, ND brought in TAH-NOO-TAH this offseason to be the "linebackers coach," but it seemed like co-coordinatorship at best. How in control of ND's D was he? Also also, he reportedly dissed Michigan when recruiting some kid, though he later denied he said such a thing.

Also also also: he has a giant umwellyouknow.

John Chavis, former Tennessee DC. Currently unemployed, Chavis was Tennessee's defensive coordinator since 1995. A pissed off Johnny Majors took a shot at Fulmer by praising Chavis:

“Frankly, I think (defensive coordinator) John Chavis has saved his job for 10 years.”

So there's that. In the twilight of the Fulmer era Tennessee was wildly variable on D: 4th in yardage last year, 70th in 2007, 50th in 2006.

Chavis is old and kind of looks like Gittleson so probably won't be a bang-up recruiter but the guy knows his way around a defense.

Paul Rhoads, former Auburn DC. For fans of irony this is choice A1, as Rhoads was Pittsburgh's defensive coordinator in 2007 when the Panthers held a mostly Pat-White-less West Virginia team to nine points and precipitated the string of events that ended with Rodriguez taking the Michigan job.

Auburn's defense was 27th in yardage and 15th in scoring this year despite taking the field opposite and offense that was the functional equivalent of Michigan's. That chaos butterfly of a Pitt defense was fifth in yardage and (somehow) 42nd in scoring. Wikipedia on Rhoads' Panther career:

In 2000, Rhoads was hired as the defensive coordinator for the Pittsburgh Panthers by Walt Harris. In his first season, Rhoads was credited with improving the team's defense to their best performance since 1980. In 2001, his defensive unit ranked among the nation's top 30 in five different categories at season's end. Additionally, Pitt finished with 38 quarterback sacks. In 2002, the Panthers defense ranked among the nation's top 25 in an impressive seven different categories. In 2004, Pitt ranked ninth nationally with 17 interceptions and Rhoads was kept on staff by new head coach Dave Wannstedt. That decision proved wise as by then end of the 2005 season, Pitt was ranked second nationally in pass defense (yielding just 152.82 yards per game) and sixth in pass efficiency defense with a 99.36 rating. In 2006, Sporting News named Rhoads the Big East's best defensive coordinator. In 2007, Rhoads' defense was among the nation's leaders in various categories, finishing fifth nationally in total defense (allowing just 297.7 yards per games) and third nationally in pass defense (allowing just 167.3 yards per game). While the team finished 5–7, they ended on a high note by holding then-#2 ranked rival West Virginia to a season-low nine points in a 13-9 victory in the Backyard Brawl, limiting the Mountaineers high-powered offense to 183 yards (292 yards below their average).

Even setting aside the irony, Rhoads appears to be a good choice. He has eight years of DC experience, most of which is impressive. He's a guy Rodriguez has gone up against a half-dozen times, so there's some familiarity between the two coaches. He's young enough (41) to be an energetic, motivated recruiter. A guy like Tommy Tuberville surveyed the nation after losing Will Muschamp and picked him out, and Tuberville can find himself some defensive coordinators.

Hell… what about Tommy Tuberville, former Auburn head coach? Tuberville may want to sit on the sidelines for a while or whatever, but the parade of defensive coordinators that worked their way through Auburn never seemed to have much impact on the fortunes of the D. Tuberville was a DC for one year at Texas A&M before getting the Ole Miss job.

Eh, this one's pretty far-fetched.

Vance Bedford, Florida DBs coach. You know Vance from his two stints as Michigan's DB coach; those sandwiched an up-and-down career as Oklahoma State's defensive coordinator. This year he's vastly improved a previously porous Florida secondary.

But… no. Bedford's last stint as a DC ended in ignominy and controversy after he called Okie State fans "roaches" and then wouldn't back away from it. We all know how that sort of comment would play in this media environment. Also he wasn't a good DC; as long as Rhoads and Chavis are out there there's no reason to go back to a guy who didn't do well in a coordinator role before.

The Orgeron. Come on. You know you want him.

Chris Spielman. I'm kidding. Okay, I'm half-kidding.

So, who do I like?

Of the listed: Rhoads. He's got a good track record and could revive Michigan's Pittsburgh-area recruiting. After that, probably Corwin Brown, actually, for recruiting/piss off ND/Michigan alum issues.

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December 16th, 2008 at 5:07 PM | Damn (Score:1)
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You are one fast writer. Unless you, like the New York Times, prepare obituaries in advance.

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December 16th, 2008 at 5:42 PM | awesome (Score:1)
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awesome

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December 16th, 2008 at 5:09 PM | Wow that was insanely fast. I (Score:1)
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Wow that was insanely fast. I was just reading the board comments about this and BAM.

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December 16th, 2008 at 5:11 PM | why not TAH-NOO-TAH (Score:1)
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he must not be happy with the situation at ND right now...

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December 16th, 2008 at 5:12 PM | Given that we have a staff (Score:0)
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Given that we have a staff full of position coaches that have coached the 3-3-5, doesn't Casteel make sense? Or are the jobs of the position coaches now in jeapordy?

Can't we say that part of Shafer's problem was that he was saddled with coaches he didn't pick who were coaching a system (his) they had never coached? Given that, I see the choice being:

a) keep the position coaches, hire Casteel
b) Can the coaches, hire someone else

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December 16th, 2008 at 5:20 PM | Agree with your logic. (Score:1)
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Agree with your logic.

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December 16th, 2008 at 5:22 PM | And, given the potential (Score:0)
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And, given the potential fall-out in recruiting from canning the whole defensive staff, I think Casteel seems the most likely.

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December 16th, 2008 at 5:39 PM | Agree too but... (Score:1)
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I cant back it up with logic, but something about Casteel leaves me cold. Maybe its the 3-3-5, if that was not a "gimmick" defense wouldn't we see others doing it?

"Everyone gets dumped Gabe. Let me give you some advice: a little coverup on your Adams Apple will make it appear smaller. Which will make you appear less like a transvestite." 

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December 16th, 2008 at 5:43 PM | Gimmick or no, the fact that (Score:0)
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Gimmick or no, the fact that WVU has had a top defense for the past 5 years or so can't be ignored.

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December 16th, 2008 at 5:47 PM | True but... (Score:1)
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I still feel all squiggly inside. But Casteel would have the advantage of RR actually have set eyes on him before hiring

"Everyone gets dumped Gabe. Let me give you some advice: a little coverup on your Adams Apple will make it appear smaller. Which will make you appear less like a transvestite." 

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December 16th, 2008 at 6:45 PM | If we go with Casteel, why (Score:1)
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If we go with Casteel, why the hell are we recruiting so many damn DTs?

With Graves and Jones already committed, (hopefully) Campbell on the way, and no seniors on the roster, why are we still pushing for McPhee? Depth is nice, but with Martin in the mix too, that's a lot of guys for one spot.

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December 16th, 2008 at 5:22 PM | Well if we can the rest of (Score:1)
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Well if we can the rest of the coach along with Shaf wont that cause a little bit of a circus with our recruits???

- JP

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December 16th, 2008 at 5:25 PM | I can't imagine that the (Score:1)
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I can't imagine that the D-Line would be very happy about hiring Casteel.

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December 16th, 2008 at 5:26 PM | Ron English? (Score:1)
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Anyone think Ron English might want to come back?

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December 16th, 2008 at 5:27 PM | Anyone actually want him (Score:1)
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Anyone actually want him back?

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December 16th, 2008 at 6:43 PM | Yes. But this is another (Score:1)
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Yes. But this is another topic altogether.

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December 16th, 2008 at 6:45 PM | Did you watch the (Score:1)
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Did you watch the Louisville/Rutgers game...?

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December 16th, 2008 at 6:50 PM | Need I make a list of all the (Score:1)
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Need I make a list of all the All-Americans and future NFL-ers who blossomed under his tutelage? Who would have run through a brick wall they loved the man so much?

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December 16th, 2008 at 6:57 PM | Pat White "blossomed" under (Score:1)
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Pat White "blossomed" under Bill Stewart and loved him so much that he recommended Stewart be promoted to head coach. How'd that turn out?

And other than Leon Hall, I can't really think of any great NFL-ers who came out of his secondary.

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December 16th, 2008 at 7:05 PM | In addition to Leon Hall, (Score:1)
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In addition to Leon Hall, Marlin Jackson and even Ernest Shazor were All-Americans in English-coached backfields. Lamarr Woodley, Alan Branch, Dave Harris, Prescott Burgess are some names off the top of my head who played their best ball with English as DC. Also guys like Rondell Biggs, Shawn Crable.

What does Pat White have to do with this? I'm not arguing for English to be the head coach. I'm just saying, he was a pretty good DC. He coached our best defense since '97. There were some failures, of course, but no coaching record is without blemishes.

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December 16th, 2008 at 5:38 PM | i was thinking the same thing (Score:1)
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i was thinking the same thing about English. he was the most enthusiastic guy on the old staff and he is young enough. also if i remember correctly he was a pretty good recruiter in the california region. think about if we could recruit cali like we are fl now...both states are loaded with talent. that being said i doubt he will get the job or be considered strongly

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December 16th, 2008 at 5:39 PM | In addition to this, he's not (Score:0)
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In addition to this, he's not a good coach.

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December 16th, 2008 at 5:28 PM | one more (Score:1)
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left off Hopson, which is maybe the most obvious choice. Not my pick, but there's a good chance he'll be the next DC (no inside info here, just common sense). Other options I'd be happy with: Greg Robinson, Ron Vanderlinden but I don't think they're as likely.

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December 16th, 2008 at 5:37 PM | Todd Orlando? (Score:1)
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Comes from Big East. Played for Wisconsin and has Pennsylvania ties for recruiting.

Info from Huskies website:

Todd Orlando has coached UConn’s inside linebackers since the 1999 season and, in 2005, he also assumed the role of defensive coordinator.

In his first year as defensive coordinator, UConn led the BIG EAST in total defense in 2006, ranking seventh in the nation. The team’s 297.1 yards per game average for total defense was the program’s best since 1979. His second season, 2007, saw UConn claim the BIG EAST Championship behind the nation’s 10th-ranked passing efficiency defense and the 14th best scoring defense at 19.0 points allowed per game.

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December 16th, 2008 at 5:41 PM | I don't know about Robinson, (Score:1)
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I don't know about Robinson, i just remember watching michigan tear the Texas D a new a-- hole in the Rose Bowl. Mike Hart was somewhat limited, but M seemed to pass the ball at will.

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December 16th, 2008 at 5:30 PM | Damn good points... (Score:1)
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chitownblue. However,Rhoads resume quite impressive.

 

 

 

"From this point on," defensive tackle Mike Martin said, "every single game is a championship game for our program."

From The Detroit News:

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December 16th, 2008 at 5:35 PM | Ron English couldn't get (Score:1)
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Ron English couldn't get hired at Steak and Shake right now.....

- JP

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December 16th, 2008 at 5:36 PM | weird comments on Chavis (Score:1)
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Brian says he is "old" (52 is old??) and how he looks will affect his recruiting?

Stupid fucking statements.... or was he "just kidding"?

Strictly business...Not personal.

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December 16th, 2008 at 5:42 PM | If you are an 18 year old (Score:0)
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If you are an 18 year old black kid (since our team is largely african-american) do think you'd have an easier time forging an affinity to a younger person who is your race, or an older white guy? My hunch says more would go for the younger black guy.

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December 16th, 2008 at 5:46 PM | pretty sure Chavis is hispanic (Score:1)
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judging by his name and his pic.... 52 is not old for a coach... Les Miles is older than that, as was Moeller, and Carr for much of his career (and Bo..and many of the coaches...no one is bitching about 57 year old Fred Jackson and his ability to recruit...)

... the age of a DC is not as important as his knowledge and how he relates to the kids in both recruiting and coaching. Nothing bad has been said about the guy's abilities...so to diss him based on him being middle aged and not black is pretty fucking stupid and narrow minded imo.

Strictly business...Not personal.

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December 16th, 2008 at 5:48 PM | Chavis is Native American (Score:1)
Yinka Double Dare
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Chavis is Native American

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December 16th, 2008 at 6:03 PM | btw...ESPN just reported that (Score:1)
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Jo Pa agreed to a 3 yr extension...

now he is an old coach, and white too... most of his staff is white as well.

what does it fking matter? In the case of the DC, we should hire the best guy available imo.

Strictly business...Not personal.

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December 16th, 2008 at 7:21 PM | Tom, we talked about this. (Score:1)
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Tom, we talked about this. It doesn't sound like you took either of your chill pills. Please, Tom, they're for your own good.

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December 16th, 2008 at 7:35 PM | He's just so ANGRY Gibson is (Score:1)
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He's just so ANGRY

Gibson is not whatever you called him Tom. He's a good man who works really hard to do the best he can.

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December 16th, 2008 at 8:43 PM | talk all you want... (Score:1)
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but you do not know me Bleedingblue...so spare me the flash card psychoanalysis, and reading in to what I feel about this situation. You dont know.

Strictly business...Not personal.

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December 16th, 2008 at 9:29 PM | Your avitar scares me btw (Score:1)
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Your avitar scares me btw

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December 16th, 2008 at 5:52 PM | I don't think Brian was (Score:0)
chitownblue (not verified)

I don't think Brian was talking about his coaching ability - he explicity says he's a great coach. I think he referred to recruiting ability.

And my point wasn't that black kids don't like white people - but that most people have an easier time relating to people like themselves. There aren't many native-american players out there.

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December 16th, 2008 at 5:54 PM | valid point. as much as it (Score:1)
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valid point. as much as it shouldnt matter about race and coaching it plays a major part. why else would almost every basketball team have one black coach on their bench? also do not be surprised if the new dc comes out of left field much like the hiring of Rich Rod did last year.

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December 16th, 2008 at 7:53 PM | Um, no. Recruits seem to love (Score:1)
Zone Read Left
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Um, no. Recruits seem to love Mack Brown, Jim Tressell, Joepa, Bowden, Carroll, etc. How's Ty Willingham doing at this recruiting thing?

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December 16th, 2008 at 5:44 PM | Since we are talking about (Score:1)
roded
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Since we are talking about 17-18 year old kids, I think that analysis is spot on.

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December 16th, 2008 at 5:42 PM | "We just had a mutual (Score:1)
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"We just had a mutual decision," Shafer told the Free Press. "We had different thoughts on the way we did things. I take full responsibility for the demise of where Michigan's program is at this time."

So it he that sabotaged our program?!?! Bastard.

Yeah...

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December 16th, 2008 at 5:44 PM | Why not Tenuta? (Score:1)
wolverine1987
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Wouldn't he be a stronger candidate than Brown?

"Everyone gets dumped Gabe. Let me give you some advice: a little coverup on your Adams Apple will make it appear smaller. Which will make you appear less like a transvestite." 

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December 16th, 2008 at 5:55 PM | Gut feelinng... (Score:1)
The BlackHand
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RR may not be done cleaning house.He said he was going to look at the program as a whole...so...

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December 16th, 2008 at 5:59 PM | Everyone else except Fred (Score:1)
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Everyone else except Fred Jackson was brought with him or hired after. I don't think Fred is going anywhere though. Guy is a terrific coach.

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December 16th, 2008 at 5:58 PM | Gimmick? (Score:1)
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If that scoring defense ranking because of gimmick...give me some of that quick!

 

 

 

"From this point on," defensive tackle Mike Martin said, "every single game is a championship game for our program."

From The Detroit News:

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December 16th, 2008 at 6:01 PM | Marco... (Score:1)
The BlackHand
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Travel much?

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December 17th, 2008 at 11:34 AM | Traveling man... (Score:1)
marco dane
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of course. Some refer to me as *square*...

 

 

 

"From this point on," defensive tackle Mike Martin said, "every single game is a championship game for our program."

From The Detroit News:

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December 16th, 2008 at 6:06 PM | YES (Score:1)
THE KNOWLEDGE
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YES
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THE KNOWLEDGE SOARS AND BASKS IN GLORY
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yes
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I shall shortly reveal who the two coaches the DC search has been narrowed down to are
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yes
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December 16th, 2008 at 6:10 PM | Rhoads is good? Really? (Score:1)
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I vaguely remember reading some very entertaining posts on some Pitt blogs about how much they hated Paul Rhoads. Maybe they just hated him because he worked for The Wannstache, though, I can't remember.

At this point, I just want some continuity and stability. During these rebuilding years, I would very much like the drama at Michigan to be turned down to 3. Schembechler Hall needs some quiet time.

The Wolverine Liberation Army- saving Michigan fans one dick joke at a time.

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December 16th, 2008 at 6:14 PM | Bill Sheridan (Score:1)
wolverinepride
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What about him? Seems like ol' RR loves Nick, could his dad come in and take up the DC job? He has done a good job with Giants and it seems like he would come back for a DC job.

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