Opponent Watch 2018: Week 7 Comment Count

BiSB October 18th, 2018 at 12:17 PM

About Last Week

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If he says "left foot, maize" I'm in real trouble here (Fuller)

The Road Ahead

Michigan State (4-2, 2-1 B1G)

Last week: Won at Penn State, 21-17

Recap: lolwut?

We use the phrase “Peak Sparty” around here a lot, and in a lot of contexts. Indeed, perhaps we overuse it. But if “unranked Michigan State team fresh off a ten point home loss to a bad Northwestern team defeats the #8 team in the country on the road and does so in a fashion that sees them DROP two spots in S&P+” isn’t Peak Sparty, it is only because no prominent MSU player was suspended for the first half of the first play of the game for his involvement a pending RICO case.

I won’t say Michigan State was lucky. That would be a homer-ish thing to say. I would not deign to impugn Brian Lewerke’s 47% completions, or Michigan State’s 1.5-yards-per-play-worse-than-Penn-State performance. I will, however, not-so-subtly gesture towards Bill Connelly, who says that Michigan State was lucky:

Michigan State had a turnover margin that was +4.1 ahead of where national averages suggest it should have been. As each turnover is worth approximately five points, that means the Spartans enjoyed about a 20- to 21-point boost thanks to turnovers luck. In a four-point win. I swear, that happens every single time Sparty plays PSU, Michigan, or Ohio State, doesn’t it...

This was the result of the fact that (1) Michigan State fumbled four time and recovered all four, (2) Penn State fumbled once and lost it, and (3) Penn State defended 16 of Brian Lewerke’s passes, which is an outrageous number, with only one pick. And this isn’t just nerd-theory: Penn State dropped a gift of an interception that would have sealed the game.

This game also featured the most Michigan State drive of all time:

  • Brian Lewerke run for 11 yards
  • Run for 4 yards
  • Incomplete pass
  • Incomplete pass
  • Fake punt for 26 yards
  • Run for 3 yards
  • Halfback pass for 36 yards to the 1 yard line
  • Run for no gain
  • Run for no gain, fumble, recover own fumble
  • Run for no gain to set up 4th and goal but Penn State commits personal foul to get a new set of downs after an MSU player poked a Penn State player in the eye Three Stooges-style
  • Run for 1 yard touchdown

81 yards of grit, determination, empty calories, Harry Potter spells, and chicken entrails.

This team is as frightening as: I… have no idea. Usually Michigan is the team onto which Sparty drops the Alpaca Dominating Mediocrity Out Of Nowhere performance. Respect Level = Yes

Michigan can sleep soundly about: After holding their first five opponents to about 26 rushing yards per game at 1.3 yards per carry, Michigan State allowed Penn State to accumulate 205 yards at 6.4 YPC.

Michigan should worry about: More that 60% of those yards came on two big carries by Miles Sanders. The other 30 carries went for 2.6 YPC.

When they play Michigan: I respect this opponent and the things they choose to do and be. Those things are worthy of respect and admiration and additional respect.

Next week: vs. Michigan, noon, FOX (MSU +7)

[AFTER THE JUMP: More respect. Also Rutger.]

Penn State (4-2, 1-2 B1G)

Last week: Lost to Michigan State, 21-17

Recap: I’m starting to wonder if James Franklin might not have some game management issues.

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In three of Penn State’s last dozen games, the Nittany Lions have experienced pretty phenomenal collapses. They had a 15-point lead entering the fourth quarter (and a 9-point lead with five minutes left) against Ohio State last year. They also blew a 12-point lead to Ohio State in the last seven minutes this year. But at least those losses were to highly ranked teams. When you have a 3-point lead with 1:19 left, and give up a 76-yard touchdown drive in less than 60 seconds to an offense like Michigan State’s, which is, let’s face it, couldn’t… [/COMMENT REDACTED FOR RESPEKT PURPOSES]

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…raccoon in the engine block.

Penn State is approaching what is suddenly a rather pivotal stretch, but not in the way it had hoped. After Indiana, they have Iowa, Michigan, and Wisconsin in three consecutive weeks. Win two of those, and while they may not win the East, they keep the program momentum going in the right direction for another year. But an 8-4 season, or even a 7-5 season, aren’t out of the question at this point. That makes for a very different offseason. And trust us, fellas. You want no part of that offseason.

This team is as frightening as: The Army of the Potomac under George McClellan. Sure, it’s got some issues, but it will generally be of superior strength and supply to most armies it could ever encounter in the field. But at some point, someone has to lead this army from a tactical and strategic standpoint. Fear Level = 8

Michigan should worry about: Penn State may have just wasted their biggest egg-laying on Michigan State.

Michigan can sleep soundly about: Joe Moorhead is in Starkville, Mississippi.

When they play Michigan: Someone keep an eye on KJ Hamler plz.

Next week: at Indiana, 3:30 p.m., ABC (PSU -15)

Rutger (1-6, 1-0 Sun Belt)

Last week: Lost at Maryland, 34-7

Recap: Oh come the hell on.

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This is the 7th time since 2016 that Rutger has averaged fewer than three yards per pass in a game. Over that stretch, the rest of the Big Ten COMBINED has six such games. Only one other team – Iowa – has had as many as two. This is the sixth time in the last 27 games they have been held to under 50 yards passing. For comparison, in the last 27 games, Georgia Tech – a triple option team – has been held to fewer than 50 passing yards only five times.

Every pass they threw in the last 29 minutes of the game was intercepted. Every. Single. One.

It took Michigan exactly one pass attempt against Maryland to accumulate more receiving YAFHAF (yards after a fullback hurdles a fool) than the Scarlet Knights had total receiving yards in the entire game.

This team is as frightening as: What if this – football, life, Earth – is all a simulation in some super-advanced Sim City program, and the player decides to quit the game? Tell me it isn’t possible; Rutger Football does have the general feel of a kid who got bored and decided to unleash a hurricane and an alien invasion and three dozen riots. Fear Level = 0.6

Michigan can sleep soundly about: Out of 130 FBS teams, Rutger are:

  • #130 in points per game (15.1)
  • #128 in yards per play (4.17)
  • #128 in yards per pass (4.5)
  • #130 in passer rating (77.3)
  • #130 in INTs (17) and INT rate (7.5%)
  • #130 in turnover margin (-13, or -1.86 per game)
  • #130 in plays of 20+ yards (14)
  • #126 in average field position (25.7)
  • #129 in Standard Down Success Rate (34.9%)

Michigan should worry about: Are bees still dying at an alarming rate?

When they play Michigan: The FCC may have to step in.

Next week: vs. Northwestern, noon, BTN (Rutger +20.5)

Indiana (4-3, 1-3 B1G)

Last week: Lost to Iowa, 42-16

Recap: Iowa isn’t bad. But they also aren’t this good.

This was a 26-point win in a 10-possession game. That’s a lot. The Hawkeyes thumped Indiana, outgaining them on a per-play basis by nearly two and a half yards. Nate Stanley threw six touchdown passes, which is the first time an Iowa quarterback did so since Chuck Hartlieb in 1987.

Indiana’s offense has been, as we expected, consistent in its mediocrity. But Indiana’s defense, which we actually theorized could be pretty good, has fallen off a bit. They surrendered 7.4 yards per play and 42 points to Iowa. Last week, they gave up 6.6 yards per play and 49 points to Ohio State. And the week before that they gave up 17 points and nearly 5 yards per play to Rutger, which, as you probably remember from earlier, does not have a very good offense.

This team is as frightening as: Yeah, we’re back to this.

Fear Level = 4

Michigan should worry about: Peyton Ramsey is completing 68% of his passes, which is among the Big Ten leaders and would be Indiana’s best completion rate in recent memory.

Michigan can sleep soundly about: Despite that high completion rate, he is averaging 6.4 yards per attempt.

When they play Michigan: No injuries no second half targeting no funny business everyone go to class and stay the everloving hell away from Skeeps.

Next week: vs. Penn State, 3:30 p.m., ABC (IU +15)

Ohio State (7-0, 4-0 B1G)

Last week: Beat Minnesota, 30-14

Recap: Ohio State got lucky. Not that they won, necessarily, though there was definitely a universe in which they lost this game. No, they were mostly lucky that they stubbed their toe on their own junk on a weekend in which Top Ten teams were just actively hurling themselves into the nearest wood chippers. So no one really noticed.

Ohio State led this game 17-14 at the half, and they were lucky to be up at all. They got a very, VERY generous spot on 4th and short[/turns head slowly, looks directly into the camera], which was somehow upheld on review, [/continues staring unblinking into the camera]and scored a touchdown on the next play. Minnesota flubbed two second half field goals, and Ohio State added a late touchdown to pretty up the score a little bit, but the Buckeyes were favored by 30 in this game.

This team is as frightening as: I had a wonderful and terrible realization recently: This is Mecha-#CHAOSTEAM. They are the spiritual successors to those IU teams that struggle to run the ball (when they bother) and throw the ball a shit-ton, but mostly short stuff, while playing okay defense except for the MASSIVE HILARIOUS BUSTS. Except these guys have more talent than those IU teams could have ever dreamed of. Fear Level = 9

Michigan should worry about: What if this Nick Bosa think is just a ruse and he’s secretly just getting ready for the Michigan game.

Michigan can sleep soundly about: Ohio State’s defense has got some Troubles, with a capital T, and that rhymes with P, and that stands for PCan’t Stop Giving Up Huge Chunk Plays. They game up 7.1 yards per play against Minnesota. Minnesota had only cracked 5 yards per play once this year (against New Mexico State). Ohio State’s S&P+ defense is down to #41 in the country, which his approximately on par with Northwestern (#43) and Maryland (#45).

When they play Michigan: Let’s get through the next couple of weeks before we go down this road, k?

Next week: at Purdue, 7:30 p.m., ABC (OSU -13)

Objects in the Rearview Mirror

Notre Dame (7-0)

Last week: Beat Pitt, 19-14

Recap:

Pitt built a 14-6 lead by returning the second half kickoff to the house, and missed a chance to build on their lead by missing field goals of 47 and 37 yards. Notre Dame managed to retake the lead at 19-14, and Pitt made possibly the dumbest playcall of the week; they ran a fake punt on 4th and 4 – against Notre Dame’s REGULAR DEFENSE – in which Jeff George, Jr (YTJGJ) rolled out and threw the ball to either the (ineligible) right tackle or the (really ineligible) right guard three yards short of the sticks.

Based on the numbers, Notre Dame would have had to get pretty unlucky to lose this game… but they almost did anyway.

Next week: Bye

Western Michigan (5-2, 3-0 MAC)

Last week: Beat Bowling Green, 42-35

Recap: This was probably Western Michigan’s worst performance of the year. And it still resulted in Bowling Green’s coach getting fired. The Broncos were outgained by more than three yards per play. They outgained BG, but only by running 35 (!) more plays.

Western has struggled all year with giving up big plays (they’re #126 in the country in preventing explosive plays), and that continued this week; they gave up plays of 28, 31, 34, 35, 36, 50, 74, and 76 yards. Fortunately this week they play one of the ten least explosive offenses in the country in Central Michigan. CMU has only 1 play of 40+ yards on the entire season, which is only better than one team in the whole great big entire country.

Take one guess who that team might be.

Next week: @ CMU, 3:00 p.m., ESPN+ (WMU -4)

SMU (2-4, 1-1 AAC)

Last week: Bye

Recap: Yeah like I’m going to talk about SMU unless I have to.

Next week: @ Tulane, 3:30 p.m., ESPNU (SMU +7)

 

Nebraska (0-6, 0-4 B1G)

Last week: Lost at Northwestern, 34-31 (OT)

Recap:

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Some of you may be aware that I help coach my son’s 5/6-year-old baseball team. And I have noticed that sometimes the encouragement you give to a group of kindergartners (of… let's say, varying skill sets) trying to hit a pitch or field a ground ball could come off as horribly condescending, even if you 100% meant them as a compliment.

/kid misses pitch by 2 feet and 1.3 seconds

“IT WAS A GOOD SWING THOUGH.”

/ground ball rolls through legs at like 2 miles per hour

“YOU ALMOST HAD THAT ONE, BUDDY. GOOD JOB”

/Center fielder tackles third baseman to get a ball hit to the second baseman, picks up ball, throws ball 90 degrees to his target back into right field.

“GOOD HUSTLE, THOUGH.”

Nebraska really is the best 0-6 team in the country. They really are better than their record. They really have shown some encouraging signs. You really can start to see what Scott Frost is trying to do. And this really was probably their most encouraging outing since their opening week loss to Colorado.

That said, what a kick to the dangly bits. Nebraska had a 14-point lead in the 4th quarter, and they took a 10-point lead with under 6 minutes left. They then allowed a 15-play, 62-yard field goal drive (on which they gave up two 4th-and-10’s), went 3-and-out, and then yielded an 8-play, 99-yard touchdown drive. As you would expect in that situation, they then imploded in overtime.

One thing unified Nebraska fans and non-Nebraska fans after this game though: we all came together in universal scorn and derision over this insane USA Today story:

 

 

Vegas says this is the week they get their first win (though they’re a 2-point dog in S&P+), and WE BELIEVE IN YOU, BUDDY. Juice boxes and goldfish crackers either way.

 

Next week: vs. Minnesota, 3:30 p.m., BTN (Nebraska -4)

Northwestern (3-3, 3-1 B1G)

Last week: Beat Nebraska, 34-31 (OT)

Recap: Northwestern has decided what it wants to be. It wants to be the team that throws the ball 50 times a game at like 6.5 yards per attempt. They’re basically a player in Civilization 3 (the best of the Civ games, don’t @ me) deciding to invade your territory, but doing so with like 60 Spearmen.

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If I send enough, statistics say that someone will be able to take down that mechanized infantry carrier

In this case, they let Clayton Thorson throw 64 passes, while only running their running backs 19 times for 39 yards (and a long of 8 yards). And, true to form, this was enough to win the game. Over Nebraska. In overtime. At home. By a field goal. After having to mount a significant comeback.

Might be time to upgrade to pikemen.

Next week: @ Rutger, noon, BTN (NW -20.5)

Maryland (4-2, 2-1 B1G)

Last week: Beat Rutger, 34-7

Recap: Beat Rutger.

Next week: at Iowa, noon, ESPN2 (MD +9.5)

Comments

ijohnb

October 18th, 2018 at 12:31 PM ^

I have an honest question.  Why is it seemingly so important to everybody to establish so thoroughly and repetitively that the MSU win over PSU was "luck."  Not only do I think that is a fairly debatable conclusion regarding the game, this qualification is contrary to our own interests (if we beat them it would be nice to view it, and have others view it, as a quality road win).  Most of the fan base seems really preoccupied with discrediting that win and I am not sure what interest is being served by doing so.

stephenrjking

October 18th, 2018 at 12:46 PM ^

If one can objectively demonstrate that events occur in a football game that usually lead to negative points / losses, and that those events occurred but did not lead to negative points or a loss, it's not unreasonable to observe that there is some luck there.

Of course, while I don't think it changes the result, Michigan was a bounce from a fumble being returned for a TD at the beginning of the second half on Saturday, and had another fumble just tooling around in the offensive backfield after Shea was sacked. We got a touch lucky, too. 

ijohnb

October 18th, 2018 at 12:51 PM ^

And we got a completely random roughing the snapper call that completed changed the game.  And Michigan State forced and recovered a fumble that was ruled down and not reviewed at a critical time during the game. 

Shit happens.  Football isn't played by some predetermined script or inflexible rules.  Teams either find ways to win a game or they don't.  This is becoming kind of a petty look IMO.

CRISPed in the DIAG

October 18th, 2018 at 1:26 PM ^

I'm not sure you can watch the two games last week and think both games were lucky. We enjoyed a couple breaks, but otherwise dominated both sides of the ball. MSU played excellent defense for most of the game but needed good fumble luck, trick plays and a dropped INT to win in the last minute of the game. 

You are probably right to avoid the "MSU is always lucky" theme, but last week was closer to it than not.

ijohnb

October 18th, 2018 at 1:35 PM ^

I just come away amazed how a lot of people constantly become their worst enemy in terms of perception.  Last year we were going to blow them out because they "sucked" based on one loss to Notre Dame so the meltdown commenced in full force after the game.  Fire Harbaugh talks arose in earnest.  Not because we lost to State, but because we lost to a "bad" State team. 

This year we are going by and large with the "State is genuinely bad at football" mantra again.  In a game that most people expect is going to be pretty close.  To what end?  How does that narrative help anything?  If we win, it is a bad narrative for us.  If we lose, it is a bad narrative for us.   It doesn't make any sense. 

 

UMForLife

October 18th, 2018 at 1:53 PM ^

Did you read how many passes were defended by PSU? Did you read about the last drive? Did you read about how many INT were dropped by PSU. Even if the narrative makes us look bad if we lose it is the truth. If it will make you feel better, let us just say PSU was very unlucky. The other team capitalized on improbable plays. 

Guybrush3pwd

October 19th, 2018 at 1:55 PM ^

I agree it's hard to say a single play "completely changed the game" in a 38-13 blowout... but maybe if we don't score on that drive then maybe they don't stop giving the ball to Jonathan Taylor and maybe Paul Chryst doesn't make so many dumb decisions like not giving him the ball on 3rd/4th and 2. 

Again, not saying it'd change the result, but maybe MI has to beat a less dumb Paul Chryst for at least another drive or 2.

HarbaughFever

October 18th, 2018 at 12:50 PM ^

Uh, truth.

You're not wrong that it would be good for all to view it as a "quality" win if we beat them.  That should show you that there's not nefarious means to this.  Bill Connelly is not a Michigan fan.  He's purely a numbers guy.  It's not just some made up narrative by the UM or PSU fan base.  They got repeatedly, incredibly, lucky in that game.

And like Bill C stated, they don't ALWAYS only get lucky.  They got unlucky against ASU when they were in the RZ and a tipped pass got intercepted in the end zone.  They get fortunate bounces and unfortunate bounces, their fortunate bounces just happen to have occurred in high leverage games for them consistently.

snarling wolverine

October 18th, 2018 at 3:27 PM ^

You're missing the point here: they were able to make plays after PSU dropped an interception that would have sealed the game.

Likewise, in 2015 they made that play after O'Neill fumbled the snap and then made the very bad decision to try to pick it up and kick it.  

Yes, they MADE PLAYS, Mr. Valenti.  But only after they got lucky first.

ijohnb

October 18th, 2018 at 2:10 PM ^

I am not defending State.  It just comes across as hedging.

I think Michigan State is pretty good, won a big game in a big spot at Penn State, and 1) will get some breaks this Saturday, and 2) is going to get their ass handed to them this Saturday.

socrking

October 18th, 2018 at 2:57 PM ^

There are a lot of engineer types around here. Engineers expect rules to be followed. They like to be able to predict based on data and analysis. The outcomes of football games played by MSU and Michigan are frequently inconsistent with what the data says should be the result. You seem like more of a “make plays” with aggression and grit because you are hungry and have intangibles kind of guy.  That’s fine. But a lot of people around here don’t think that way. 

ijohnb

October 18th, 2018 at 3:12 PM ^

Not really.  I just kind of came away from watching the MSU v. PSU game saying "that was a good game, big win for them, sets up a nice showdown next week."  I had not really thought of the way I was going to "classify" their win.  I don't care that much about it except for the fact that we now have a chance for a notable road win, which I would like. 

mgowild

October 18th, 2018 at 2:34 PM ^

I would say any time the football hits the ground, it's luck. Michigan did not "make a play" to get the football to bounce out of bounds on the Higdon fumble. The ball bounces where it wants to. The football was fumbled 5 times in the MSU-PSU game, and all 5 times MSU recovered. That is some real good luck. In a game that required a last second TD, if any one of those fumbles are recovered by PSU, that's another possession for them and MSU doesn't get their last drive. Now did MSU make some plays? Absolutely. Were some of them lucky (RB pass to the 1, underthrown ball for the winning TD)? That all depends on who you're rooting for.

BlueTimesTwo

October 18th, 2018 at 8:38 PM ^

Not sure that putting the ball on the ground four times and having a dozen passes deflected is the greatest definition of “making plays.”  Fumble recoveries are pretty random, so if you go 5-for-5 on recovering them in one game, you were pretty fortunate.  Making objectively bad plays and escaping unharmed doesn’t turn those into good plays.

It is like surviving a game of Russian roulette and ascribing your survival to your skill level.

NittanyFan

October 18th, 2018 at 1:08 PM ^

I said this in some other thread here --- one thing that I think MSU/Dantonio is not getting enough credit for last Saturday is that they were motivated and excited for the game.  They rebounded well off of a tough loss.

MSU tied the game up twice (7-7 and 14-14): both times the TV shows the sidelines and the MSU sideline is up jumping around and excited, while the PSU sideline looks like a bunch of distraught overworked office workers who hate their job.

Yes, MSU got some "luck" last Saturday, but I also feel that confident/motivated teams often make their own luck (and unconfident/unhappy teams often have bad/weird things happen to them).

Now, I highly doubt U-M won't be on an emotional high themselves in 2 days.  But I give MSU credit for rebounding off their Northwestern loss, and for better or worse, they'll be ready Saturday.  

Ziff72

October 18th, 2018 at 2:24 PM ^

This isn't a hard one to figure out. 

1. It's statistics.

2. Most people here hate MSU.

3. It helps you regulate your fear level heading into a big game.   That score on itself is shocking and scary if you didn't watch the game.  If you watched that game you know that they only win that game 1 of 10 times maybe and they got it.  Props to them, but it makes me feel better that they still suck.   

It's fun to discredit your rivals with stats.   I don't see how this is complicated.

Why do you think MSU has posts about Harbaugh's road record or against the rivals and other such stupid shit?   Do you follow Scott Bell on twitter?   He's a magician at manipulating stats to bash Dantonio. 

There you go.  Mystery solved.

bronxblue

October 18th, 2018 at 2:38 PM ^

There is no interest in MSU being good or bad.  This isn't the NCAA with an RPI bubble team.  If Michigan wins out, they are in the playoffs.  How good or bad MSU is is irrelevant.

The issue people have with MSU and how they win these games is because it is almost always horseshit.  It's an OSU team that is killing people suddenly running the ball 10 times on a half and throwing picks.  It's fumbling the ball a ton of times and never losing them.  It's bowling over a long snapper and getting a million-in-one bobble and score.  It's just annoying, and it's a fanbase in MSU that can't win without being assholes about it.  Also, their coach is loathesome and a school with a ton of bad juju that isn't being punished cosmically for it.

PopeLando

October 18th, 2018 at 3:21 PM ^

Sir.

I once slept with an insanely beautiful woman. She was way out of my league, and I knew it. I have no idea why it happened. Was I extra charming? Did she have a really awful week and need some validation? Was it just something that happened?

Either way, she came to her senses and I got the "we're not working out" line. But what she meant was "we're so far apart on the hotness scale that cashiers would probably put a divider between our groceries without asking about it."

I got lucky. It happens. Sparty got lucky. It happens, way too often.

TheLastStraw

October 18th, 2018 at 3:52 PM ^

I think the reason it is important to establish that MSU's win over PSU was luck is because, statistically speaking, it appears that it was. That is not to say that all of Michigan State's wins are luck.

In 2015, when MSU beat Michigan they got lucky on the final play. Looking back at the game, however, Michigan had substantial luck to be in a position to win the game. MSU beat us on 1st downs (20-to-10), beat us on total yards (386-to-230), beat us on passing yard (328-to-168), and both teams had about 60 passing yards. 

The final turnover was the only turnover of the game.

If I show you that box score and nothing else, you'd look at it and tell me that MSU probably won the game. In fact, you'd probably guess that it was more than a 4 point win.

That's what Bill Connelly's argument about "luck" is trying to get at. Based on the underlying statistics -- and how those statistics typically convert into points -- how likely is it that you win that game. In the case of the MSU-PSU game, MSU had everything go their way. That happens sometimes.