National Signing Day Presser 2/3/16: Jim Harbaugh Comment Count

Adam Schnepp

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[Fuller/MGoBlog]

[I missed the question but it’s something about the goals of the event]

“That was the main objective, to celebrate these youngsters and all their hard work. Their parents made so many sacrifices; I had a chance to see it up close. So many sacrifices: their money, their energy. This needs to be celebrated, need to have some fun. We’ll go back to work at 2:30 but great to have some fun. ”

Is this everything you hoped it would be?

“It was. Mainly it was inspired by Chad Carr, the ChadTough Foundation, their family, the entire family. Got to see it for an entire year. Got to see the love, a family that loves this youngster and a community that loves Chad and to see all him loved back, it brings you closer to God. Or at least for me it does. And also the sanctity for life. Have been very inspired by Chad Carr

[something about the recruiting class]

“We are so excited about all of our signees. We are tremendously- I’m standing here with you, so…yeah. But from top to bottom, this recruiting class is youngsters that have a real heart for competing and heart for football. They’ve got football faces. Competitive in the classroom. As we said before, they’ve worked so hard to put themselves in a position to be here and they love ball. I have a real appreciation for the families that trust us to coach their sons, to teach them, because when you’re a family it doesn’t matter what you have monetarily or what you don’t have, your most prized possession is your son or your daughter. When you trust somebody to develop them, I take that very seriously. Just happy that they respect us and that they trust us.”

Where did you get the idea for today and how long has it been in the works?

“I guess just how could we do something fun and a celebration. I’ve been watching this process for years and experienced it myself; you pull a fax out of a fax machine and a coach stands up and talks about them and usually says kind of the same thing, so wanted to do something different. Wanted to do something awesome, and was really pleased. Thought today did that.”

On paper this is a great class. Can you talk about the expectations moving forward for this class?

“Yeah, I mean, it’s a process. I love that word, and talk about it especially going from high school to college. That’s…it’s uncharted waters. It’s the unknown. If you have sons and daughters of your own you know that step and what it takes, [and] it’ll be a process. It’s gonna be a team effort to it. Everybody here at the University of Michigan, the love that you surround the youngsters with, and also a team effort with parents and families. Really appreciate the trust there and with that we can do great things and expect great things. I think that’ll happen, especially with the group we have. All these youngsters all come from great families. They have great places to go and get advice from their parents or from their family, and I think they’re going to make the transition very well.”

What’s the cap number on the class? How high can it go?

“Well, there’s going to be some coming. There’s going to be another announcement later today. Youngsters that are going to be preferred walk-ons that we’ve been recruiting for a long time, they’re going to sign as well. It’s gonna be a good, big number.”

Do you know what the number of scholarships you can give out in this class is?

“Uh, yeah, in terms of scholarships I think it’s going to come in somewhere around 29.”

Did you guys use any grayshirts?

“No.”

Did you guys backdate the early kids?

“Uh, yes.”

[After THE JUMP: sleepovers, honesty with early commits, non-apologies]

All of them, all seven?

“Yes. We had a pretty small recruiting class last year of 14 so yes. We have seven enrolled right now that can be backdated to the 2014 class.”

Did you know what a big moment this would be to have Ric Flair to be part of?

“I did, I did! I was in Nate Johnson's house in Tennessee and I was just telling them about it, I was telling them what this event was going to be like, talking about some of the people that were going to be here and one of the family members said 'Tom Brady! Tom Brady's gonna be there! The greatest quarterback of all time, four Super Bowl trophies' and they said 'We're a wrestling family. You're gonna have Ric Flair there! It doesn't get any better than that, coach' and she's right."

With this event being so big and so new for you guys- no one's ever seen anything like it- to the people out there who might think it's too extravagant or too big, what do you say to them?

"I think people would do something similar or they'll criticize it. What do I think of that? Don't think much of it. It worked for us. It was wonderful for us and, you know, why not? As I said, we'll be back to work at 2:30, but why not have some fun? Why not celebrate all wins, and these are huge wins for the families. These are huge wins for the youngsters that are signing not just here but anywhere. You move on to higher education and you're doing something that, in my opinion, there's only one guarantee of having a successful future and that's education. So whether it's being as a scholarship athlete or musician or going to a four-year college or a two-year college or a trade school or the military, that should be celebrated."

Do you already have ideas for next year?

“Yeah, we’ll, uh…we did our best this year and we’ll have our goal of being better next year. Better next year than this year, better this year than last year.”

Did you know Flair was recruited here before?

“He told me that. He told me that Bump Elliott signed him to a national letter of intent in ‘68 so that was a great backstory. Owen Wilson had a backstory. Ric Flair had a backstory.”

There’s been so much written and said about your recruiting and some of your unorthodox things. Can you separate some of the reality from the myth? Like sleepovers, those happened, right?

“They sure did, yeah.”

How many?

“Uh, four or five.”

Really?

“Yeah, yeah. Just having fun. You know, if people criticize that then so be it, but we’re enjoying the heck out of it.”

The supposedly pulling those scholarships or backing off on scholarships—does that go back to what you said about meritocracy or what is the strategy there? You got some blowback on that.

“The way I look at it, I want to get out there. I want to be all out there in the timeframe that you have to go visit youngsters and their families, the more time that you can spend with them, whether it’s waking up, sleeping at their house and waking up, having breakfast, going to school, meeting the teachers, meeting the counselors, being immersed in the family, it’s so invaluable because when the youngsters come here then I’m so much more comfortable calling family members. They’re so much more comfortable calling me. You know them, you know the youngsters so much better. We’ve said it. We’re out looking for nuggets of gold. Want to bring the best and brightest to the University of Michigan, and that will remain our objective.”

When you do have a situation where you’ve got to move on from a kid, did you feel like you gave those guys enough time or enough notice that you were going in a different direction?

“Yeah, I mean, that’s the process. We discussed the early commitments and what the entails. It entails to keep getting better, to perform in the classroom, to perform on the field, perform as a good citizen, and also part of that process is to let them know that you need to pick your grade point up, you need to retake a test, you need to play better on the field. Certainly never includes somebody that’s injured; that’s something that’s out of their control, but we will continue to do a good job of letting them know where they’re at and being honest.”

Is that something you talk about right away? Like, understand that this could change whenever we decide it needs to change?

“Uh, yes. That’s what we do, that’s what we have done, that’s what we’ll continue to do.”

First full year of recruiting in a while now. Did you learn anything you’d want to do differently the second year around, whether it’s communicating things or your approach to the way you handle different recruiting situations?

“Yeah. Like in anything, we want to be better today than we were yesterday, better tomorrow than we were today. I can say this: we did our best. There were mistakes made. I take full accountability for them, but I don’t apologize and we’ll keep forging on.”

What mistakes are you talking about?

/silence

What are your thoughts on an early signing period? Is that something you’d be open to?

“It is, definitely. I’d be very—you know, been adamant and said on record saying I’d be for an early signing period. You know, you look at it’s an outdated system. The system has been in place for thirty-some years and the process has changed. I would vote that you could sign a national letter of intent at any time. I think that would be a good thing.”

Which star were you most excited about?

“All of ‘em. I was excited about all our guys. Every single youngster that’s in the class.”

I was talking about your guests, like Ric Flair.

“Oh, I was talking about the youngsters that were-”

Yeah, I was talking about-

“Well, let me talk about what I want to talk about.”

I’ll ask the questions, sir.

“Okay, I’ll move to somebody else. Who else has a question? But I was really excited about every single one of our youngsters. As far as the--you called them celebrities, I just call them people that perform at the highest level—I’m talking Tom Brady, Ric Flair, Derek Jeter, John Harbaugh, Desmond Howard, Lou Holtz, Todd McShay, Mike Shanahan. Just to rub elbows with them, watch and be around them and show respect to them for what they’ve done and for our team. You know, we had a lot of members of our team that were here today. Great to be exposed and be able to connect to people that have done it at the highest level.”

Every move you make has a spotlight on it. How self-aware of that are you?

“Not everything.”

It seems like it.

“No, it’s not.”

What are your plans for spring football? Do you intend to do spring in Florida for a week?

“Yeah. Spring football, going to go to Florida our first week while the university here is on spring break. We’ll go to Florida and we’ll start practicing. We’re going to have four practices down there. We’ll work hard, and we’ll have fun doing it. We have some good plans for swim meets. We’re gonna have putt putt golf. We’re gonna have football meetings. We’re gonna have practice.

I think it gives a chance to win on a lot of different levels. One is that everybody’s going to get a spring break. There’s no youngster that can’t afford to fly somewhere won’t be able to enjoy his spring break. What better way to be doing that than to be playing football. The other thing it’s going to allow us to do by practicing during our spring break is both weeks of finals, winter finals, are going to be no football. They’ll be discretionary weeks so guys can concentrate and focus on the finals. We’ll be outside, we’ll be in Florida, go to the beach. It’ll be a good time for our team to connect and be together, so that’s a lot of levels right there to win on so very much looking forward to it.”

You guys are doing it at IMG?

“Yes.”

Why has New Jersey become such fertile ground for your recruiting class? The talent level seems to be very high there.

“It’s always been a good tradition of great football players coming out of that state, the Garden State. As I said, we’re looking for nuggets of gold anywhere. There’s good, there’s better, there’s best. That’s—guys with a heart for football. There’s a football face that I see sometimes, and all the time and our guys got that. You know, Michigan’s a great football state. You’ve got a half dozen or more players from the state of Michigan that are gonna be on this team. Indiana, well represented. Alabama, Florida, California; historically some of the best states for football in terms of players going on to have great college careers and a lot of those avenues have been opened up to the University of Michigan. Why wouldn’t we be recruiting heavily in California as well? California has the most applications of students going to the University of Michigan, so that’s something that excites us as well. Wisconsin, Maryland, a lot of states, Georgia. So it’s a recruiting class that there’s a lot of diversity. There’s a lot of diversity from what parts of the country, some in cities, some in towns, some in rural areas, but the common thread that they have is they all want a great education and they all love football.”

Going forward, do you want to have more of a footprint in Michigan in recruiting? You have one kid in this class--

[other media members yell out two and then three]

“It’s a really good footprint and you’ll see we’re adding All-Staters that will also be added as we go forward but there are some darn good football players from the state of Michigan. Anywhere that the youngster has proven to be highly competitive in the classroom, on the football field, and a good citizen we’re going to want to take a look at them. And then they’ve got to want to come, you know. But absolutely. You’re allowed to cross state borders in my America. And bring them to here! To bring them to one of the finest institutions in the world is an exciting thing to do. It’s something that we can easily go out and talk about and feel very excited about.”

Comments

Space Coyote

February 4th, 2016 at 10:44 AM ^

First full year of recruiting in a while now. Did you learn anything you’d want to do differently the second year around, whether it’s communicating things or your approach to the way you handle different recruiting situations?

“Yeah. Like in anything, we want to be better today than we were yesterday, better tomorrow than we were today. I can say this: we did our best. There were mistakes made. I take full accountability for them, but I don’t apologize and we’ll keep forging on.”

People want to label fans that brought up the Swenson situation "bad fans" or "concern trolls" or some other name that is supposed to be derogatory. And I understand, Harbaugh has a chance to win, he's currently on the right path to win a lot, so it's "See no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil" and act like you have to be happy with everything going on in the program. And if not, then you're a bad fan, you're contaminating the program, you're driving the outside media to discuss Michigan in a negative light.

I disagree with that. Harbaugh gains media attention, positive and negative, regardless of the fan reaction. Fans just have the opportunity to voice their concern or lack of concern, which has the opportunity to maintain the program as is or make changes with the program. Outside perception may cause harm in some ways, but it's inside perception that can make real change and improve upon the program that we care about.

Yesterday, someone posted a thread about how Bama was grayshirting some kids, and more than half the posts were related to "Michigan fans would burn the coach for this" or other things that related that situation to the Swenson situation. To me, that's the problem. I don't want to be at the same level as Bama's recruiting tactics, I don't want to be in the same breath as their recruiting tactics. I understand it isn't exactly the same, but even the fans railing against what happened being a bad thing are bringing it up in the same breath. Rivals and the outside media are of course going to do at least that. It's a perception, whether people like it or not.

And it can be improved upon. It can improve the program. The negative perception can be mitigated to essentially negligible. And I understand the Swenson situation is unlikely to consistently have a huge impact. But in recruiting, it's the small impacts that sway recruits many times, when all else is near or at equalilty. And beyond that, I just want to be better. I want the program to improve, to meet what I believe are the expectations for the program. And that means being straight forward, honest, and upfront with recruits in a timely manner. That means doing better next year than they did this year. And it's not very difficult for this staff to do that.

So call it "concern trolling", call out people that point to it as "bad fans" or hurting the program. I don't remember many people making that argument during the Shane Morris concussion saga, but that was a dead staff walking that everyone had already turned against, so they didn't even earn one side of the story to tell, much less two. But it comes down to wins, I get that. Some were already fed up with Hoke during the Gibbons things, more were fed up with him by the Morris thing, and the amount of people that were willing to burn him at the stake increased as the losses increased. That's the reality.

The reality for me is that I want this program to continue to get better. I think being better at communication on the recruiting front is a part of that.  I'd bet Harbaugh agrees.

Space Coyote

February 4th, 2016 at 1:48 PM ^

The cause being a better Michigan program. I'm critical, yes, but I'm not expressing concern just to be a critic. I express concern because I actually care, both for the program and for the kids (and I understand some are happy to kick kids to the curb once they no longer are associated with Michigan; but as someone who has coached a lot of kids that have ended up in a lot of places, I don't feel that way, it's personal to me).

I believe that describes most of the others that feel the way I do as well. That's not concern trolling. You labeling it as such is just trying to put a derogatory label on it. It's tu quoque, it's an attempt to attack character (in this case fanhood) rather than the argument. And that's why you're wrong in this instance.

InterM

February 4th, 2016 at 1:52 PM ^

In your earlier post, you identify the goal in recruiting -- and Harbaugh's apparent shortfall -- as "being straight forward, honest, and upfront with recruits in a timely manner."  And yet, that's one thing that we as outsiders have no way of knowing about.  In his press conference, Harbaugh specifically stated that "we will continue to do a good job of letting [recruits] know where they're at and being honest," and he added that "[t]hat's what we do, that's what we have done, that's what we'll continue to do."  Do you have any basis for disputing that?

Space Coyote

February 4th, 2016 at 2:00 PM ^

That's poor communication. It should be cleaned up. Then this situation doesn't happen again.

That's straight forward, honest, and upfront with recruits in a timely manner. Hinting they should look elsewhere, no matter how strongly, starting at some point after the written offer has been given, isn't clear enough, because it leaves you open to what happened, and therefore criticism.

InterM

February 4th, 2016 at 2:38 PM ^

"Hinting they should look elsewhere, no matter how strongly, starting at some point after the written offer has been given."  And you know this how?  There were reports that Swenson was told to camp over the summer and blew it off -- i.e., before any written offer was made.  I sure as heck don't know which parts of the story are true, and neither do you.  So, I repeat -- criticism based on idle speculation is concern trolling.

Space Coyote

February 4th, 2016 at 2:51 PM ^

And he should have camped if he wanted to be in the class. But until that point, Michigan's staff hadn't evaluated him, so they shouldn't have given him a written offer. That's the point. Don't offer a formal scholarship in written form unless you have evaluated a player and are going to accept his committment.

It's not idle speculation. In this best case that has been presented for Michigan (the other side of the story), Michigan still should have communicated better. Which is why Brian's least favorite thing about this class or whatever was "Pick up the phone".

You're asking for more information then you will get in almost any situation; i.e. no one can be critical about anything. In the best case situation, Michigan wasn't clear enough, because we know they sent him a written offer.

InterM

February 4th, 2016 at 4:55 PM ^

is when you can't make up your mind what you're concerned about.  First it was a failure to be "straight forward, honest and upfront with recruits in a timely manner."  Now we've moved to criticism that Michigan "should have communicated better" -- a far cry, I would argue, from suggestions of dishonesty, misrepresentation, or unfair delay.  And even this sub-optimal communication rests solely on the written offer apparently given to Swenson.  I don't know about you, but I have no idea how many of these written offers go out, whether they are invariably considered "committable," or what recruits are told in connection with these written offers about what they need to do to end up in the class.

Space Coyote

February 4th, 2016 at 5:24 PM ^

Being "straight forward, honest, and upfront with recruits in a timely manner" is "communicating better". If you can't comprehend that, well, now I understand this conversation we're having.

And I do have an idea of how many of these offers go out. They typically only go out to players the coaches have evaluated and are willing to take. They usually contain some outs (grades, position being filled, etc). They don't tend to go out "pending our evaluation or lack thereof" because the players have already been evaluated, because you don't send out written offers to guys you haven't evaluated or have evaluated and have deemed not good enough.

Saying "we will not consider you a commit unless we can evaluate you" is more straight forward, honest, and upfront - it's better communication - with a recruit then sending him a written offer and then urging him to also look at other schools. Because the latter is open to interpretation or, worse, misinterpretation. Pretty simple, and you have to be fairly dense not to understand that.

InterM

February 4th, 2016 at 5:25 PM ^

Let's make it "pretty simple," then -- how do you know in this very case that the coaches did not literally say to Swenson, "We will not consider you a commit unless we can evaluate you"?  But this magical "written offer" apparently overcomes all that, in your view -- that is, the offer that (you say) is "typically" only given after evaluation, has only "some outs" (which are nebulous and open to interpretation), and doesn't "tend to go out" pending evaluation.  Yeah, that seems "pretty simple," just like the whole "straightforward" recruiting process -- sorry I'm too "dense" to understand.

Lou MacAdoo

February 4th, 2016 at 10:56 AM ^

I don't want to bash on Hoke because I respect him, but Harbaugh's press conferences are night and day compared to his. So well spoken, intelligent, godly, and just all around awesome. It's still hard to comprehend that he's our coach and this is really happening. I have a feeling of peace and comfort when I think about the future of this program. Hopefully my one year old will grow up only knowing Harbaugh and championships.

Space Coyote

February 4th, 2016 at 11:12 AM ^

But I don't know about well spoken. I love Harbaugh, love his mindset, and completely understand it, but what makes his press conferences so entertaining is that he's all over the place. His coach speak is just whatever his first thought is and run with it.

Q: What did you think about that big hit during the game?

JH: Well, it was big, yeah. I remember back in '86, with Bo, ya know, he liked to make sure people were tough, really drinking their milk. And I remember Billy, Billy Harris - he was a mean son of a gun - he didn't get picked up on a little inside stunt. POW! Hardest hit I ever felt. So I, yeah, you know, it's football. The hits come fast and they come hard. Have to be a football player out there. Onto the next play. It's a physical sport.

It's great, because you get wild stories. Instead of the story above it might be about how hard America hit the Nazis on some bombing run, or about how hard Cecil Fielder hit a home run, or it might be about all those things. It's going to get weird. It's going to be sporadic, rapid fire thoughts and sentences. It's great. It's entertaining. But he's not speaking Lloyd Carr poetry up there.

Space Coyote

February 4th, 2016 at 1:42 PM ^

The lack of communication in the Swenson situation, and not having a max protect punt installed. The latter is mitigated with a clean snap and catch.

Sometimes I do think the adoration is a bit over the top and effusive. Really, all I was addressing above was "so well spoken, intelligent, godly..." The rest I largely agree with. 

I was reading a MSU blog the other day talking about how lucky someone would be to have Dantonio as a mentor and how much better they'd be because of it and how much better off they'd be then with other coaches. That was more than a bit much. But that's how fans feel, I get it. But generally it still feels over the top to me applied to any of these guys. I'm a really, really big Harbaugh fan and I couldn't be happier he's at Michigan. But sometimes the over-the-top praise is just a bit much for me.

Also, in this situation, I like Harbaugh for what Harbaugh is. When Rich Rod was hired I liked some of his relaxed personality with the press, because that's who he was (so did others until he stopped winning). When Hoke was the coach at Michigan, I liked how he handled coach speak, basically saying nothing but having a wry grin (others did at the start and then stopped when he wasn't winning).

But I wouldn't claim Rich Rod or Hoke linguists, nor would I for Harbaugh. I loved the way Carr spoke during press conferences, but I wouldn't want Harbaugh to do that, because that's not who Harbaugh is. I like Harbaugh for what he actually is: a supremely focused, off the wall, intense. It's entertaining. It could go anywhere. But it isn't what the person I responded to described, in my opinion.

And honestly, part of it may be the same reason Brian was guarded against Hoke praise at the start of Hoke's tenure: because he went all in on defending Rich Rod against what were unfair attacks. I believe I did that with Hoke in many ways, and maybe now I'm a bit reluctant to see the same shift from effusive, over-the-top praise to something less than that once a few more losses inevitably occur.

Michichick

February 4th, 2016 at 2:36 PM ^

I was not thrilled either when I read about the circumstances surrounding Swenson's decommit a couple of weeks ago. I immediately thought, as an alum, that this is not how I want my school's coach to treat high school kids. It looks bad and is certainly ammo for negative recruiting, just not how Michigan rolls.

However, there are always at least two sides to every story.  Your comment sounds like you don't know what has been reported about the communication between the staff and Swenson and his family.  Given the nature of the whole recruiting game on both sides, recruiter and recruitee, I highly doubt Harbaugh & Co. left Swenson in the dark until the 11th hour.

http://thebiglead.com/2016/01/22/jim-harbaugh-erik-swenson-and-the-importance-of-context/

Space Coyote

February 4th, 2016 at 2:45 PM ^

At worst (Swenson's version), it's really bad. At best (the version the guy at Rivals reported a few others), it's still not good enough. The truth is likely somewhere in the middle.

That's why everyone from Brian to Harbaugh are saying it needs to be handled better. Swenson and his family may have been dense, that's why you leave no ambiguity. You don't offer a written scholarship to a kid you haven't evaluated. That simple. If he didn't want to come to camp, you tell him "you either camp and we evaluate you or we can no longer consider you a commit." That's direct, straightforward, and honest, so that it cannot be misinterpreted.

InterM

February 4th, 2016 at 5:11 PM ^

to tell a kid that since he didn't take advantage of the camp opportunity, he'll have to be evaluated through his senior season to earn his way into the class?  Isn't it possible that a recruit might prefer this second chance versus being removed from consideration before his senior year, particularly if it's his dream school?  Sure, that will leave him less time for "Plan B" if the coaches don't like what they see from his senior season, but that's his call, right?  And it leaves sufficient time after the season to look into and visit other schools.  No facts that have been reported in Swenson's case preclude this scenario.

Space Coyote

February 4th, 2016 at 5:20 PM ^

You don't have to send him one in August. And just because a kid decommits, doesn't mean you can't still recruit him. There is nothing preventing the staff from still considering him based on his senior film, why would have have to be removed from consideration?

1. You camp, we evaluate you, and if we like you, we send you a written offer.

2. You don't camp, you're no longer considered a commit, we'll evaluate you on your SR year, we may send you a written offer pending your film.

With two choices, you have been clear with the kid regarding where he stands.

InterM

February 4th, 2016 at 5:37 PM ^

but who's to say it's the only way?  It certainly doesn't mean that any other way is dishonest, or even an example of less-than-ideal communication (which, I see above, is the same thing to you). Meanwhile, the coaching staff does what they do with countless recruits through many recruiting seasons, and one recruit says he's confused by that (but still ends up committing to a P5 school), so they should overhaul their entire process?  OK then . . . .

By the way, thanks for negging all of my comments.  So nice that we can respectfully disagree.

Space Coyote

February 4th, 2016 at 6:30 PM ^

1) Concerning this Swenson situation: either it was not adequately communicated and that led to what happened (which by the way, doesn't require ill intentions; no one is claiming Harbaugh wanted to ruin Swenson's dream) or it was effectively communicated and Swenson, his family, and his coaches are flat out liars, for no benefit for themselves. The former seems far, far more plausible. The latter involves logic that Judge Judy would have a field day with. But if the latter holds up, then anyone can plead the 5th and be not guilty. 2) The coaching staff doesn't need to overhaul everything they do. They need to be more effective in their communication with recruits to avoid misunderstandings and therefore bad press and leaving kids feeling they've been essentially lied to. 3) Multiple recruits have brought it up, back to the Stanford days. Whether all were as upset as Swenson or not isn't the point, the point is it can be improved. Be better tomorrow than today. 4) Being offered a week trip to Disney World and being sent to Michigan Adventure doesn't make things equal because they're both theme parks. Being offered a job at NASA and being forced to work at GM doesn't mean the same thing because they're both big places for engineers to work. Where he ended up is immaterial. 5) Several people negged me in this thread. Unless somehow they all came from you, it means they disagreed with me. Oh yeah, that's what they're for. And because I can't exchange points for goods and services, I'm not that concerned about it. But by the way, you didn't get negged by me until you claimed I was changing my argument by claiming being more straightforward, honest, and clear didn't have to do with communication; at that point it was clear we weren't just disagreeing, but that you were being dense. 6) Your first response to me was a snarky attack trying to negatively label me. You can't come back and play the respectfully disagree card.

InterM

February 5th, 2016 at 9:14 AM ^

(not to mention Judge Judy and the 5th Amendment (huh?)), but I'll just address the point that I was "being dense" when I apparently "claim[ed] being more straightforward, honest, and clear didn't have to do with communication."  If you look at the post in question, what I actually said was that you had changed your argument by (i) first claiming Harbaugh had failed to be "straight forward, honest, and upfront with recruits in a timely manner," and then (ii) falling back to the position that he "should have communicated better."  If you can't see the difference between accusing someone of not being honest and faulting them for less-than-clear communication, I don't know what to tell you.

But by all means, call me "dense" for your failure to understand my point -- ironically, in a discussion of the challenges of communicating clearly to recruits in what everyone agrees is a complicated, nuanced, and high-stakes process in which kids are making an important life decision.  If a kid doesn't quite get the message Harbaugh is trying to send in this process, I'd be a little more cautious, if I were you, in characterizing it as a lack of honesty (on either side of the conversation).

alum96

February 4th, 2016 at 11:05 AM ^

California has the most applications of students going to the University of Michigan, so that’s something that excites us as well.

Interesting.  I know part of that is population but that would not have been my first or even fifth guess.  I wonder how much of that is the large influx of foreign born Asians esp Chinese in Calif.

Not a felon

February 4th, 2016 at 1:02 PM ^

Well, California by FAR is the most populous state with a solid 10 million+ more residents than second place (Texas). The margin of that lead alone is more than the population of Michigan. Combine that with a well-educated middle and upper class urban populace (Bay area, LA, San Diego) and I imagine Cali is the biggest applicant state of many universities

reshp1

February 4th, 2016 at 11:23 AM ^

One is that everybody’s going to get a spring break. There’s no youngster that can’t afford to fly somewhere won’t be able to enjoy his spring break. What better way to be doing that than to be playing football. 

 

No wonder guys love playing for him. I wouldn't have even thought of that angle, but it goes to show he really cares about them as people and wants to give them the best possible experience during their time at Michigan, on and off the field. 

taut

February 4th, 2016 at 2:29 PM ^

While I understand Harbaugh not wanting to detail the mistakes made in Swenson's case, I'd like to know the behind-the-scene details at some point, from someone. And I think it needs to be out there as a counterpoint to the dominant narrative from the other side of the story. That side's story is firmly implanted in folks minds after a couple weeks of broad coverage with no countervailing narrative.

jsquigg

February 4th, 2016 at 2:39 PM ^

In regard to this unique, original, Signing with the Stars eventand what others think about it, Harbaugh said:  "They hate us because they ain't us."