Hoops Mailbag: Robinson's Shooting, B1G Expectations, Next Breakout Comment Count

Ace


It's more likely than not this will go in. [Bryan Fuller/MGoBlog]

Before Michigan takes on Purdue in their first huge test of conference play, I took a few questions on the season thus far and the outlook going forward. Let's start with a fun one.

Not at all unreasonable! Michigan is essentially at the midpoint of the season—they've played 15 of their 31 regular-season games—and Robinson is shooting 57% on over six three-point attempts per game. That alone is a good sample to go on and feel optimistic.

It's also reasonable based on the eye test. Robinson gets his share of great looks created by the LeVert/Irvin/Walton trio, which knows by now that finding Robinson open on the perimeter is the most optimal shot to generate on a given possession. Mark Donnal's emergence as a pick-and-roll threat is creating more open looks for Robinson as the spot-up option in a three-man game; even if that's not sustainable against better teams, it can only help his output compared to the beginning of the year, when M had little P&R game to speak of.

Most importantly, we already know Robinson is an incredible shooter. He hit 46% of his threes as a freshman at Williams while being the focal point of the offense. He spent his redshirt year shattering Nik Stauskas' practice records. He's got a textbook, repeatable stroke, leaving him less prone to the streakiness of a guy like Zak Irvin.

For Robinson to drop to 50% on the year, he'd have to cool off considerably. If we assume he finishes the season with 200 three-point attempts (he's at 91 right now), he'd have to shoot 44%—a 13-point dropoff from his current average—just to sink to 50%. While his shooting may take a hit due to the increased level of competition, I don't think the effect will be nearly that drastic. This is a special player.

[Hit THE JUMP for a breakdown of M's win probability against top-tier teams, parallels between this squad and the 2011-12 team, a guess at the next breakout performance, and more.]

This answer I can keep pretty short: Michigan is never going to be an inside-out team under Beilein. If Donnal continues to operate this well on the pick-and-roll, Michigan will get back to running that with high frequency, but that's still going to result in as many drives by guards and kickouts to spot-up shooters as it will touches for the bigs. With the considerable amount of talent on the perimeter—and, yes, the relative dearth of reliable production from the bigs—there's no reason for Michigan to force the ball into the paint for the sake of playing in the paint.

And, yes, Donnal's two-game outburst has been aided by the competition. Illinois essentially played a 220-pound stretch five for most of that game, while Penn State's seven-footer logged less than half the team's minutes and didn't look great when he was out there.

I'll address the second part of the question first: Michigan is going to win a couple of those big games. Thanks to Lorne (LSAClassOf2000) for throwing together a win probability distribution for Michigan's seven games against those four teams, we have a good idea of the chances they'll get to that mark (percentages might not add up to 100% because of rounding):

Wins Probability (%)
0 3.0
1 14.5
2 28.7
3 29.8
4 17.3
5 5.7
6 1.0
7 0.1

There's only a 17.5% chance Michigan doesn't reach that two-win mark. Going 3-4 over those games is a reasonable expectation.

Even if Michigan struggles against the upper-tier opponents, they only need to go 9-7 the rest of the way to hit 11 Big Ten wins (and 21 total) before the conference tournament starts; win the BTT opener and that should have them safely on the right side of the bubble.

Cripes, this question scared me when it came in, because I thought some awful news about LeVert's injury had broken while I was asleep. That's not the case. LeVert's injury is relatively minor, much like Derrick Walton's ankle twist earlier this season; LeVert rolled his ankle, and not a particularly nasty-looking roll at that, against Illinois, and the resulting pain is keeping him out for the moment. John Beilein said he's day-to-day on Monday; it sounds like if he's not back for Purdue it won't be much longer than that.

The path for this team turning into a frontrunner involves Mark Donnal sustaining this level of play for the rest of the season; for Michigan's offense to go from very good to elite they need that high screen game functioning at a high level, and until the last two games it wasn't. As much as I want to believe, I'm skeptical Donnal's breakout is wholly sustainable.

Statistically, this team is similar to that 2011-12 squad, which finished 19th in offensive efficiency, the exact spot this current Michigan team occupies. Both were/are in the 60s in defensive efficiency, as well. There are minor differences—this year's team is better at shooting, 2012 had slightly better rebounding—but that's a reasonable expectation for this year, hopefully without the first-round NCAA tournament upset.

I'll go with MAAR. His minutes aren't going anywhere now that Spike Albrecht is out for the year, and while he hasn't developed into a point guard—his assist rate is half that of Robinson's—he's taking care of the ball, getting to the rim and finishing, and hitting a decent rate of his outside shots (9/24 this season).

This may be cheating, since Rahk played 30 minutes against Penn State and scored an efficient 14 points, but that didn't quite feel like a true breakout game. I expect he'll come up big against a major opponent, especially if Derrick Walton stays in his current funk for much longer.

It does not appear to me that our offensive sets change much year-to-year. High ball screen, shooter on the corner/wing, big man rolling to the basket. If this is true, why don't teams know how to defend it by now?

Thanks,
Bryan

For one, that's an oversimplification of Beilein's offense, which contains enough different plays out of the same sets that it's notoriously difficult to pick up as a freshman—as evidence, watch the early games of any young Michigan big from the last several years. Just because Michigan has spread the floor and stuck the center at the top of the key doesn't mean the opponent is tipped off as to what's coming next.

Add to that the fact that different teams defend certain looks—especially the high screen—in different ways, Michigan runs different sets for man and zone defenses, there are contingency plans built into each play, and the team has the creators (especially LeVert) to improvise when all else breaks down, and stopping this offense is far more difficult than pointing to a few sets and saying "shut those down."

For both legal and defensive purposes, I have to go with one Duncan Robinson-sized duck.

Comments

Everyone Murders

January 6th, 2016 at 12:42 PM ^

The opening picture is for the ages, but not because of Robinson.  Check out the varied reactions of the fans courtside and beyond.  You've got a couple of "gosh, I'm happy he's shooting again" guys, the woman who's seemingly oblivious to anything but her mobile phone - presumably texting to her umpteenth friend "Sittin' courtside at the game - where RU?".  The dubious chin scratcher.  The dad with two kids on the left who are nervous and nothing else.

It's a wonderful shot, Robinson's wonderful shot aside. 

TheFugitive

January 6th, 2016 at 12:58 PM ^

It looks like Robinson is trying to shoot a medicine ball in that picture.  Looks like the young fella has some strenth.  

He also looks like he could be DJ Durkin's son.  

somewittyname

January 6th, 2016 at 1:23 PM ^

“I think there’s always a chance of anything right now. There’s a chance of if being a one-day issue just as much that it’s a long-term issue.”  - Beilein

I wouldn't discount the possibility of Levert being hampered for the rest of the season.

Michigan Fan L…

January 6th, 2016 at 3:01 PM ^

I'm hoping for the best but expecting the worst with regard to Levert's injury. 

Until I see him in uniform, out on the court, with the ball in his hands, during an officially NCAA-sanctioned game, I'm going to assume he's out for the season.

Gooooooooo Blue!!!

Wolvie3758

January 6th, 2016 at 1:34 PM ^

of beating Purdue on the road..Purdue along with Indiana and Wisconsin have been a absolute House of Horrors for Michigan...At Purdue and Indiana everything that can go wrong will. Just something about that venue that Michigan just falls apart...And dont get me started on Indiana and Wisconsin....If we can split Maryland and Purdue I would be THRILLED.....Beating Purdue will take the absolute best game of the year and no stupid turnovers and missed layups...As much as I Love Belein winning on the road hasnt been one of his fortes

Yard Dog

January 6th, 2016 at 1:58 PM ^

but those 7 games are a tough matchup for us.  I think Iowa can be undone both at home aned on the road.  Maryland will be tough both home and away.  Glad MSU has to come to Crisler.  Purdue is beatable, although visitors tend to struggle at Mackey.  I'd like to see 3-4, but 2-5 won't surprise me if we have an off shooting night or two.  On the other hand, if we are red hot at home like we were against PSU, this could turn into 4-3 or maybe something better.  Beilein will have them ready to play regardless.  Looking forward to seeing step 1 vs. Purdue on Thursday night.

champswest

January 6th, 2016 at 2:17 PM ^

through periods when they are hot and others when they are playing poorly. If you are lucky, you can catch most of the better teams when you are either in a hot period or they are playing poorly. Of course, those trends can work against you as well.

NCBlue22

January 6th, 2016 at 2:51 PM ^

There was some chatter on Rivals that Levert may have re-injured the same foot that he had surgery on, not just a sprained ankle.  No one seems to know and it was more 'have an uneasy feeling' rather than any facts, but that's likely where the tone of the question came from.  Color me a bit uneasy until he's back on the court. 

Michigan Fan L…

January 6th, 2016 at 3:16 PM ^

I don't know what Nik Stauskas' 3-point percentage was in his first season but I do remember that he had a few tough games during the Big Ten season.  And I think it was Gary Harris (6'4") who gave Stauskas (6'6") fits during the Michigan State game.

I'm hoping that since Duncan Robinson is 6'8" it will be a lot more difficult to find someone with both size (to be able to block his shot) and speed (to keep him from driving to the basket).  I think he can hit the 50% mark for the season. 

Go Blue!!!

 

jmblue

January 7th, 2016 at 8:58 AM ^

I think he's talking about Stauskas's freshman year, although his recollection might not quite be accurate.  In the game at Breslin he was 4-8 overall and 2-4 from three for 10 points.  At Crisler, he was hit in the face in the opening minutes and didn't return.  That was the game we won without making a 3-point shot, with Burke picking Appling's pocket at the finish.

 

urbanachiever

January 7th, 2016 at 11:49 AM ^

Gotcha. I don't recall specifics but I would be surprised if Harris was matching up Stauskas at that point of his career. Would seem like the waste of a lockdown defended on a player who to that point was mostly a spot up shooter.

I was a bit off on his performance in 2014.  He did indeed bomb bresling (5-6 from 3), but only to the tune of 19 points

rlcBlue

January 7th, 2016 at 2:13 PM ^


Year     Total       B1G
Fr        80-182 44.0%     30-81 37.0%
So       92-208 44.2%     42-94 44.7%

As a freshman he was shut out @OSU (team's first loss of the year), vs Illinois (a comfortable win), vs. MSU (tight win), and vs. Wisconsin in the BTT loss. Oh, and vs. VCU and Syracuse in NCAA tourney wins.

As a sophomore he was shut out @Duke (humiliating loss), @Indiana(first B1G loss), and vs. Wisconsin (dominating loss).

 

jmblue

January 6th, 2016 at 3:40 PM ^

It wouldn't shock me if Robinson ended up under 50% from three for the season.  From here on out he's not only facing better defenses than he did in the non-conference season, but is now clearly a marked man and has to work more to get an open look.  Thus far in conference play he's 6-15 - 40%. 

 

J.

January 6th, 2016 at 5:07 PM ^

In order to end up below 50% on the season, he needs to get cold and keep shooting lots and lots of threes.  With as many shooters as this team has, it's hard for me to believe that both of these would keep happening; if he cools off precipitously, he's not going to be shooting.

Jonesy

January 7th, 2016 at 2:39 PM ^

I love how when Duncan goes 2/5 from three he's having a bad night, still shooting an excellent 40%, and is poised for a positive regression to the mean.