If you think I'm wrong...give me the dates. I can give you the dates and names of the other events that are NOT Junior days, rather football events if you want?
Hello: Shawn Conway
There is a junior day the night before the start of spring practice (either the 12th or the 13th), and there's a BBQ at the Big House, for which I don't think the date is set yet.
the thing before the spring practice is the night of the champions. some recruits are invited yea but its not a junior day. the bbq at the big house is in may and again its a recruiting event but not a junior day. junior days are specifically designated for juniors only. theres also 7on7 tournies and camps, but kids from any grade can come. not trying to beef w/ you here...just defending my original point
Sorry, your original point is wrong.
hahaha alright man, don't let facts get in the way of your convictions. keep it real
Sorry? I don't know what I'm supposed to say here, you're just not right.
No insult intended, but you're just not right.
When we got DJ Williamson's commitment at about this time last year we seemed to be the only one's who thought he's "really, really good". A year later I still don't know anyone outside our coaching staff who shares that opinion.
our class size is normal, if not bigger than your typical class(27).
Our '11 class is going to be really, really small so Michigan coaches are more selective with who they offer and how they'll recruit certain players(slowplay them until they land their desire target or recruit them hard).
Looks like we'll have more in-state recruits than normal. Zettel and Beyer are the next likely commits to go along with Greg Brown, Delonte Hollowell and now Sean Conway. That's about 4 in-state players(!!!!) out of 5 committed recruits.
You just criticized Tim for mentioning player successes when "it's too early to cite examples of failure." Then what, exactly, are you trying to say about DJ, a player with 4 more years of eligibility?
I agree that it is too early to designate most of RR's players as as hidden gems or busts, but let's not be hypocritical when trying to bolster your argument.
There's no hypocrisy. I'm saying because he's a 2 star to scout and a low 3 star to Rivals and has no other reported offers, our coaching staff is alone in their opinion of him. I'm not labeling him a failure at all, he may light the world on fire when he gets here for all I know.
My trust for RR > my trust of the recruiting services. Trust the man to do his job. Keep the faith.
You can't make the argument that because Williamson didn't receive other offers after he committed that other programs didn't want him. Unless you're some uber super recruit, other schools don't seem to officially offer scholarships to committed players. They may talk to them and try to get them to change their minds but it doesn't seem like it is common to extend a scholarship to them publicly. I may be wrong but I can't think of many articles i've read on Rivals that talk about committed players who receive official scholarships from other schools.
Vinopal and Kinard claimed offers after committing. Generally speaking I don't doubt you're right, but still that doesn't explain why he's a 2 star to scout and a low 3 star to Rivals.
A year later he has yet to play a down of football at Michigan, either. The coaches saw something in him they liked, and who knows what they'll do with that talent?
Stop making stupid arguments.
Okay, how about "5 and 4 star (not start) blue chippers" are determined by third party services looking to make a buck.
Good indicators? Sure.
End all be all? No.
Or try this one.
Its only February. Signing day is almost a year away. This class may look drastically different next winter.
And take note, 2011 rankings arent even out yet, so lets wait on passing judgment via the internet.
This comment sucked. Pretend it was awesome
Uh what? Dileo was the only WR in the last class who's under 6'1" according to Rivals. And he's a slot.
I think I've officially moved into neg on sight territory. Time to leave this thread alone.
i decided to insult this person for an unknown reason. it wasn't funny at all, just me being me
If he's 10 years old, I would assume he has a small penis. If not, MichMike has some fun years ahead of him.
He doesn't look all that fast but he still has some nice moves, especially on the last clip. And his hands are fantastic.
I guess I don't really get it either. He does seem to have good hands, but he's pretty slow, and not particularly agile. If it wasn't such a small class I'd understand, but that's what coaches get paid for I guess.
Great ball skills. Goes and gets the ball, uses his body well to shield defenders. Natural talent that clearly hasn't been groomed yet. I see nothing wrong with this offer for an WR or if they bulk him up to 220-225, a smallish TE that could cause some match up problems.
Besides, Michigan has a great track record with tall, big, with below-average speed WR. I believe David Terrell, Marquise Walker, among others, did fairly well. Greg Matthews was never fully utilized last year but it could have been a product of the O-line and protection. Perhaps RR wants another receiver with similar skill sets (but consistantly uses his hands)
David Terrell was pretty damn fast--4.4 40-yard dash fast. This kid doesn't look like a burner at all. Nonetheless, I hope he does well.
Was he at junior day? I guess the other question if this is like the kid last year who committed... oh wait no he didn't.
Either way, welcome to the family!
Shawn Conway looks like a young man with a lot of upside; you can't teach size and good hands.
Shawn, welcome to the Michigan family.
I read the comments below before I watched the video. And well, I guess I was expecting to see the world's slowest, average WR. Anyway, perhaps I saw a different video? This kid doesn't seem that slow and he catches everything. I like this commit.
edit: How can a guy be classified as a "super sleeper" in the month of February before his senior year?
and on the punt returns he got caught from behind on each play. he didnt show a lot of wiggle either. on top of this, im sure the competition hes playing against on special teams isnt top end talent. d2 prospects at best. saw issues with that. he doesnt look like hes got a blazing burst coming off the ball.
Okay, then we definitely saw a different video. I just watched it again to make sure that I wasn't seeing things. But, on almost every single one of his catches he is playing jump ball with a DB right on him (additionally I love, LOVE, the fact that we're getting a tall receiver who isn't fazed by making catches up the middle). I'd think it would be pretty tough to breakaway from a DB when you're in midair. Also, his listed 40 time is 4.5, which is typical for most D1 receivers.
the DB shouldnt be RIGHT on him. plus i dont think that any of the DBs he was going against were d1 talents so he should be running circles around them if he was fast. dont be so enamored with his go-up-and-get-it ability. do u honestly think his 40 time is legit? i doubt a junior in a public highschool has had his 40 electronically timed. do u honestly think 40 time translates to football speed? knoshon moreno ran a 4.62 at the NFL combine. the kids fast as hell on the field. i agree that he can make a catch in traffic and he has a great jumping ability. fact of the matter is that he is slow. and u spelled "fazed" wrong.
but whatever lol. just a name; main point was he ran a 4.62 40 time.
No, I'm sure his 40 time has a few fakes in there. I'm not new to this. Also, here's this:
tr.v. fazed, faz·ing, faz·es
To disrupt the composure of; disconcert.
disconcerted; worried; disturbed
So, thanks? And reread your last sentence where you corrected my spelling...C'MON SON!
atak mai speeling becuasee u cnt handel mai arguements. counter arguments are much more fun compared to talking about grammar. ur new to this if u think that hes fast. u said that he runs a 4.5 40 so obviously u gave that some credit.ill throw my own cute little phrase in there at the end: child please
Alright, this is my last response to you because your posts are dumb. But, dude, you were the one who initially attacked any spelling between our posts. So, don't claim that I attacked your spelling because I cannot handle your arguments.
before i "attacked" ur spelling. shouldnt have done that. sorry. please tho, convince me i enjoy arguing :)
I can see where you're coming from but at the same time....if spelling wasn't made into such a big fucking deal on this board (we're M fans right? we're TOO GOOD to make that kind of mistake!) then it would be easier to have a legitimate argument about football... it gets old when half of the posts here veer off into...spelling. this isn't class, this is a football forum.
Yeah, I agree. More than anything though I was highlighting the hypocrisy of his posts.
his football arguments don't seem too hypocritical... in theory the idea of all 40 times being relatively fake (and about just as much as fake as each other) is great, but I'm just not seeing it. I doubt 40 times are uniformly faked to each other.
The football-related arguments were quality.
I think that we can all agree that any prospect's reported 40 time is fake in an absolute sense. What I mean is, no Conway doesn't run the 40 in 4.5 seconds. But, 40 times are still somewhat useful to try to figure out what prospects are faster than other prospects.
If we can assume (and it's a big assumption) that in general, all 40 times are approximately as fake as any other 40 time, then we can say that a prospect with a 4.5 40 is faster than one with a 4.6 40.
Thus, I think that 40 times can be useful not to tell us absolute speed but relative speed.
As for your earlier posts, yes, you're right that as a DI prospect he should be getting better separation and that does worry me somewhat. Hopefully he can improve on that in the 1.5 years that he has left in high school.
but 4.5 on this guy looks a little too faked. not necessarily "faked" but mistakes made due to human error(hand time, etc.) make it seem so. and ur assuming a little too much if ur gonna say their 40 times are faked the same way. say one coach stops time generally too early. another coach stops time generally too late. u can have the same kid run a 4.4 and a 4.6 compared to his actual 4.5. a 4.4 is a hell of a lot different than 4.6.
I didn't see anyone add units in there...Maybe it's 4.5 sec, 40 3.8yd dash.
this is a Michigan blog damn it
my names "burntorange wit a lil maize." but really, -1 me because u dont like my name or my spelling. exactly the point of a forum based on sports. worry about names, ignore arguments. rather elitist dont u think? not letting/wanting a longhorn fan with a some love for michigan on ur forum. really good representation of UM fans? i dont think so and i hope u arent.
But after this comment, I'm pretty sure you're Em0.
No caps, tons of comments on a recruiting topic and the occasional personal insult thrown in for good measure.
This fits EmO's M.O. to a tee.
why would i capitalize shit...its a football blog not english homework. naw one of my friends told me to come post on here, and i love the recruiting process. plus there are some people who i disagree with and i love arguing. apparently they dont like my spelling cuz i went from like 30 points to 3 in about 15 minutes.
For the record, I really don't care if you're EmO or not, just keep it civil.
And just so you know, MGoBlog isn't your average football blog. People come here to get away from the mindless, text message type garbage that's on MLive, CBS and other football blogs.
Plus, this blog covers everything Michigan, not just football. (Thanks Brian, FA, Tim and others.)
um....ok? -1 for the un-Michigan related name. This is a Michigan blog damn it.