Can't turn you loose. [Patrick Barron]

Football Bits Didn't Have a Butt a Year Ago, Now Has a Butt Comment Count

Seth October 1st, 2020 at 3:09 PM

The pads are on, we have final decisions from 2/3 opt-outs, and there are a few canisters of hype to unload, but we have to lead off with some incredible news:

We stopped sending people to pressers recently which is a shame because there was nobody there to ask the obvious follow-up questions. Rest assured, audience, we know this is important to you and we will get answers. About butts.

GUYS AVAILABLE/UNDISCUSSED: Over the course of camp the coaches have been mentioning players they're "just getting back," or who "weren't available for a time." Other names we expected to be in the mix are being left out of rundowns. Historically when a coach isn't saying a player's name it's a bad sign. In some cases it might be. But keep in mind there might be another reason this year a player might not be with the team for 14 days, a reason that they don't want to say out loud. I emphasize this is NOT from any insider information.There are many reasons other than the 2020 reason for players to be sidelined—after so much time off it would be weird if there weren't a few strains—and coaches are loathe to share those. The point is it's more foolish to speculate on absences this fall.

Quarterback

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Always two there are. [Patrick Barron]

What we want to hear: A definitive reason McCaffrey is leaving.

What we're hearing: The quarterback battle is dead, long live the quarterback battle. We've spent the last two podcasts talking past each other about whether that's a good Milton thing or scary thing. Balas posted something in a recent ITF($) that's nearly word for word what an insider emailed me:

First off, the Joe Milton hype is now off the charts. Yes, he's dropping dimes on the long ball. And yes, he's made huge strides.
No, he isn't perfect, and people shouldn't expect him to be. He'll still miss the occasional crossing pattern, etc. But he has made huge strides, and he's got the confidence and leadership that make his teammates around him trust him and want to win for him.

The next step in the program's playbook is to pump up Cade McNamara as the new McCaffrey. And so:

"He’s made as many big-time throws as Joe," Gattis said. "Probably about the same number. There's some 'wow' plays." …

"I think Cade will appreciate this: the first four days that we came back, Cade was in a little bit of a funk," Gattis said. "He was more so in freshman mode where he was used to being on the scout team last year, not necessarily getting a lot of the full-speed reps. It took him about four or five days and then literally about day five, I saw him make a throw in practice and when he hit it, he kinda nodded his head three times like he was playing a song in his head.

"And ever since then he’s been on fire."

Harbaugh's line was "Put a talented guy out there and see how it goes," on Jansen's podcast. He also said "We're testing negative and staying positive" which would make a good bumper sticker. Don Brown has been less diplomatic:

“Great leader,” Brown said. “Here’s what I’ll tell you about Joe Milton: Joe and I have a great relationship. Joe will come into my office and ask me about coverage. … He’s reaching out, he’s trying to get better every day, he’s trying to be smarter with concept.”

“He’s another one of those infectious guys, got a smile on his face all the time,” Brown said. “Ready to go to work. And I have never seen a young man with a stronger arm than this guy. He can let it rip.”

Gattis seems to be feeling the Milton Experience:

"When we see a ball travel like that, 70 yards, it’s very hard to track a ball that long and still get pinpoint accuracy on each one of the throws," Gattis said. "I’ve got to the point now where I’ve told the receivers 'don’t stop running.'"

Ronnie Bell, who spent the offseason training with Milton, is also feeling it:

I talked about it with one of the guys about a week ago, and this is the best I’ve ever seen Joe. … he’s just lights out right now. It’s just very exciting to play alongside him.

What it means: Joe Milton is the quarterback, was probably looking good enough that McCaffrey bolted. The other quarterback, who isn't a true freshman late low-3* pickup because their QB of the class medically retired, is the other quarterback, and an offseason always needs two.

You Might Remember This Position Group from Such Former Seasons As: 2012 after Denard got injured. Do you remember Devin Gardner running around lost in the backfield as Wildcats swarmed around him, then he somehow got the ball out? Do you remember that pinpoint bomb to Jeremy Gallon against Minnesota? Do you remember how if anything happened to Gardner it was Russell Bellomy and air? Do you remember that at the end of all of that the numbers were actually pretty incredible? Strap in.

Depth Chart: 1. Milton, 2. McNamara

[After THE JUMP: Introducing the Michigan Secondary Panicometer. It is pronounced like thermometer]

Running Back

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It gets better. [Barron]

What we want to hear: Charbonnet was banged up last year and that's the only reason we didn't see the running parts that made him an almost-5-star. Blake Corum is frickin sweet. Chris Evans is running receiver-like routes and is going to be a big part of the offense. Hassan Haskins has to be held back because he tramples people; they've been working on screens to get him loose against the little people.

Gattis acknowledging he has a fullback and that this is a perfectly acceptable thing to have in 2020.

What we're hearing: Gattis made it sound like Charbonnet healthy is their #1 back:

"I think Zach is playing at such a high level, it’s great to see Zach playing out there being who he is," Gattis said. "I think everyone knows, Zach is tough. He battled through some injuries in high school and he came in a little banged up, needed to get cleaned up. He battled through a number of different injuries last year. To see a guy that is a true freshman battle through adversity and injuries and still play the full season says a lot. He’s been able to spend this offseason focusing on his body. First and foremost, he’s as chiseled as can be. He takes such great care of his body and it’s really impressive. He’s always in the weight room.

Harbaugh thinks the running back room is the deepest on the team and seemed pretty excited to Blake Corum on Jansen's podcast, then immediately went to Lucas Andrighetto. Harbaugh mentioned in his presser that they like throwing to Hassan Haskins—that's not a typo. That, for you millennials, is what Balas is talking about in his ITF($):

We do know fifth-year senior Chris Evans has been outstanding in what they've asked them to do, as has Zach Charbonnet. And frosh Blake Corum has "ridiculous feet." Hassan Haskins will have a role, and they'll do some two-back stuff with him. For the old-timers, he could have a Che Foster-type role in some games.

Lorenz pointed out on their podcast that this staff cares a lot about pass protection, specifically taking contact, probably because things took a downturn in that department between the graduation of De'Veon Smith and Charbonnet's debut.

What it means: It's too deep of a room to figure out how it shakes out except everyone has something of a role. Haskins being involved in the passing game is a good thing; I know you think of scatbacks in that role but that's because you didn't watch enough 1990s football with rumblin' fullbacks catching the ball out of the backfield. Also Haskins was not much of a pass protector last year so might as well throw over the blitzers.

I think they like this group enough in fact that they're going to play a lot more two-back sets.

YMRTPGFSFSA: 2009…where are you going get back here the backs were fine, remember? They also used a lot of two-back shotgun sets with a thunder and lightning on the field. Minor (RAGE!) had 5.2 YPC on just under 100 carries, Carlos Brown was at 5.9 on 81 carries, Vincent Smith and Michael Shaw and Mike Cox combined for another 100 carries and 5.5 YPC.

Depth Chart: 1. Evans/Charbonnet, 2. Corum/Haskins

Wide Receiver & Tight End & Ben Mason

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It's Sweetness Week. [Bryan Fuller]

What we want to hear: Nico got his copy of Hail to the Victors and realized he too doesn't want to go through another fall without 500 balls thrown to Nico. Barring that, how about something on Cornelius Johnson?

What we're hearing: We're still waiting on Nico's official decision but it's notable that Mayfield and the other opt-ins announced have been back at school while Nico hasn't; Sam seems less than optimistic($). The 247 guys say this is the fastest group of Michigan receivers in history on their 5Q5A podcast bit this week.

Bell was asked who's standing out and for the first time we got something that's not about the speed of the freshmen:

As for guys to be able to make a jump, definitely C.J. – Cornelius Johnson and Mikey Sainristil – both of those guys have been just dominant this offseason and this little preseason we’ve been taking care of.

The Sainristil talk was echoed by insiders in an ITF($), though of course Ronnie Bell is the first guy mentioned.

Rivals' Austin Fox and Clayton Safie are skeptical of the recent talk that Sainristil is the #2 receiver after Bell, or at least that he will be at the end of the year.

We did finally get some tight end talk (Tend Talk?) from the Josh Gattis presser and Sherrone Moore's appearance on the Jansen pod. It's what you expected: Eubanks is a leader, and the youngsters are picking things up:

“It’s 100 times better,” he told the show. “It’s understanding what they’re doing, but they’re also understanding the why. They also understand if the defense does this, we can do this. They can tell us what the plays are, which is the next step.”

Also All is heading in the correct direction, and apparently knows what that is:

“Erick All is a kid that the ceiling, I don’t know what it is, but it’s huge for him,” Moore said. “He’s going to be an exciting player to watch over the next years here. His real hang-up, when he first got here, he was a little light. He’s up to about 245 right now and he runs like a deer. He gets the playbook. Last year left was right, right was left."

Luke Schoonmaker also went on Jansen's pod to say he's up to 254 pounds and confirmed Ben Mason has a job to do:

“Ben is a true leader on the team. He’s played all these different positions and he’s been an impact leader not only for our room but for the team. He understands everything that we do. He’s got a total understanding what his role will be and what we’ll do.”

What it means: Ball's in the air, Nico. Re: Mason, it's "FULLBACK." His role is fullback. Why are we…? Bah!

YMRTPGFSFSA: If Nico does come back, it's 2004, with Collins in the Braylon role, Bell playing Jason Avant (except Ronnie gets a step where Jason didn't need one), and then a hold-your-breath Breaston in Giles Jackson, plus some fancy slot stuff with Sainrisitl instead of Jermaine Gonzalez. Sans Nico, it's 2005, which was Avant and Breaston with a breakout freshman Mario Manningham, plus some Carl Tabb and Antonio Bass. Both seasons had a not-quite-a-TE deep threat in Tim Massaquoi, who was recruited as a jumbo receiver and grew into an okay blocker and good outlet.

Depth Chart (Z/X/H): 1. Bell, 2. Johnson/Sainristil/Jackson, 3. Wilson/Henning. TE is Eubanks, All, Schoonmaker and all three will play a lot.

Offensive Line

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I'll take it. [Bryan Fuller]

What we want to hear: Embarrassment of riches, Mayfield's going to be an All-American, guys coming up being favorably compared to the departed.

What we're hearing: There was a Stueber media availability today and it seems we're down to seven guys...

That goes up to eight when Zach Carpenter is included, but everyone this week agrees Andrew Vastardis is happening—before he starts med school—and Warinner said on Jansen's podcast that Reece Atteberry is in the second unit, though Carpenter, who was scout team player of the year last year, is still "in a dogfight" with them. Harbaugh said Vastardis has "emerged as a leader this year" and "plays like a starter." They also had Vastardis come on Jansen's podcast last week.

Harbaugh also brought up Ryan Hayes at left tackle and Andrew Stueber at right guard doing well. Mayfield is going to have his job back from Karsen Barnhart, who's going to have to fight for left guard. The sixth guy Harbaugh mentioned was Chuck Filiaga, who had "a tremendous fall camp," is looking strong and more athletic.

Via Ed Warinner prior to the Mayfield announcement the battle at left guard was Filiaga and Keegan, right guard was Andrew Stueber, who was moved inside because of their depth at tackle, and Nolan Rumler was battling with him along with Zak Zinter with a slight edge to Rumler because he's been around. He then said Stueber is ahead but "Nolan's challenging and Zinter's definitely challenging." 247's Brice Marich heard Zinter "could be better than Ben Bredeson" ($) which tells you how they think about him.

Warinner came on the same podcast, confirmed Jalen Mayfield's back in the fold, and was quoting PFF stats re: Onwenu. Stueber came on too and made it sound like the delay in the season might have helped him get back closer to 100% from his rehab. Because they haven't played in 10 months it's going to take some time to get Jalen back where he was—his improvement at the end of the year was in hand use and pass sets. Ryan Hayes (solid technique, very good athlete) is in the lead but the way Karsen's been coming on there's some depth at tackle, and Trente Jones and Joel Honigford have been very solid.

Another thing from Warinner: they have their rooms split up so if there's a COVID outbreak in one room they feel like they have a starting group in the other room. They're mixed between guys on the first and second team. They're also "double-wrapping" their masks.

I have a question in with a source regarding which room everybody's in.

What it means: It seems they have seven guys they want on the field and don't quite know where to put them now. They had their configuration without Mayfield but now have to decide if they want Barnhart backing up Mayfield so he can start next year, or throw him into that left guard battle. My guess is the latter, but if they lose a tackle they'll play Barnhart there and draw in Filiaga/Keegan.

Zach Carpenter going from presumptive starter to behind a true freshman is probably an availability issue since his name wasn't mentioned much until this week. I do believe they love Vastardis, and center's a position where you play the guy who knows what he's doing.

YMRTPGFSFSA: 2001. This was the o-line after THAT line, and saw a smooth transition from Hutchinson/Backus to the Daves era. Their one returning starter, Jonathan Goodwin, was at guard but had the NFL potential of Mayfield. Ryan Hayes is as ready as Tony Pape. Andrew Stueber is your solid and somewhat experienced Dave Petruziello. They have this versatile redshirt freshman David Baas-like kid they want somewhere in Karsen Barnhart. And the center battle played out the same way: the 2001 previews all talked about young Dave Pearson but in fall camp they went with a 5th year guy, Kurt Anderson, at center because a new line needed a leader who knew the offense really well.

The other thing about the 2001 line was they had some freshmen in Adam Stenavich, Matt Lentz, and Leo Henige who were already impressing.

Depth chart: 1. Hayes/Barnhart/Vastardis/Stueber/Mayfield, 2. Jones/Filiaga/Carpenter/Keegan/[Barnhart]

Defensive Line

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my god [Barron]

What we want to hear: My six-year-old has questions about the butt. I also have questions about butt.

What we're hearing:

The quote about butts mentioned Julius Welschof as the other DL who's come along. He didn't say where, but I assume it's at Anchor since suddenly be-butted Taylor Upshaw appears to be at WDE not anchor:

“Upshaw was just a skinny guy, banged around but could run,” Brown said. “Now he's much bigger, much more equipped to play the open side defensive end position, but he can still flat out run. Those things, plus being in the system a year (have helped).”

On the inside, we have had our first Donovan Jeter dude day after a Don Brown presser that shoveled another layer of Jeter love on the wreckage of last year's mountain:

Donovan Jeter is playing better than I ever anticipated he could play. He has exceeded all expectations, and he and Carlo Kemp have given us solid play inside.

He continued into the depth, acknowledging last year was popsicle sticks:

You know, Jessie Speight is doing a really good job. But those guys in that grouping have made significant improvements. We're probably 8-9 deep there. Last year when we counted on playing a lot more of our three-down package stuff, which we desperately needed to, doing it with the abilities of Uche and a lack of total depth numbers at the defensive line.

Oh, and Christopher Hinton's playing great! That's the guy I got left out. Sometimes I hate doing this because you leave a guy out.

Indeed, there hasn't been much talk of Mazi Smith. Brown did say Carlo Kemp is moving back to 3-tech, which a) is a relief, and b) a rebuke of a presser around this far from kickoff last year when Brown said he put Kemp at nose and fwoosh [airplane takes off sign].

What it means:  Re: Mazi, I have no insider info, but if you're making odds I'd rank the odds of Sam writing something cagey that allays fears without saying why Mazi's not around higher than portal news. Portal news would be very bad IMO.

YMRTPGFSFSA: 1994. Sorry to go back a ways, but that team had 6'2"/269 Tony Henderson trying to play nose guard, flanked by two excellent tackles in Trent Zenkewicz and Jason Horn, and flashes from 5* true sophomore Will Carr that suggested he was going to be a star one day, but wasn't quite ready to be on the field every down. To this they added a rotation of young guys like Glen Steele and OLBs Trevor Pryce and Matt Dyson and Kerwin Waldroup. It mostly worked because they had two star ILBs in Jarrett Irons and Steve Morrison to make them right. But when they came up against a line full of massive future pros like Penn State or Wisconsin or Ohio State they just got pushed around too much in the middle.

Depth chart: DE: Hutchinson/Paye always on the field, with Kwity at End when both are, and Upshaw/Vilain/Ojabo coming in at End. DT: Kemp at Tackle, Jeter or Hinton at Nose, and Jeter also the backup for Kemp.

Linebacker

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Let's hear it anyway. [Barron]

What we want to hear: Well that was downright Devin Bush-like.

What we're hearing: I know it feels like Cam McGrone and Josh Ross are already established but it's nice to hear Don Brown confirm Ross is back to being the WILL he was two years ago (thinks Josh Ross has been playing his best football), and Cam's made that leap from freshman who flashes but makes mistakes to every-down star:

He's kind of picked up where he left off. We're very happy with his performance. He's really learned the defense. He really knows what we're doing, and knows what everyone else is doing as well.

So back to the backups, where there's been no tiring of praise for Nikhai Hill-Green, this time from the two inside starters Josh Ross and Cam McGrone, who were made available to the media last week. WILL #1 Ross on the guy who appears to be #2:

“[Hill-Green]’s a great, great guy. Great player. Still learning, but one thing I can say about him is he’s very instinctive. He’s very smart and he’s gonna be a good player for Michigan in the future for sure. He’s a great dude.”

MIKE #1 McGrone (emphasis mine):

[H]e’s progressed the fastest in terms of the mental aspect of being a linebacker," …"His keys, his reads, his assignments. He’s definitely faster than I was and that really impressed me. And there’s been times when he’s been X-ing me out on the field and sometimes he makes the call before I do – and that really excites me for the future as a linebacker here at Michigan."

They also echoed earlier sentiments re: Ben VanSumeren, who brings a fullback mentality to the SAM job. Brown said BVS runs a 4.6 and it is translating to the field. As for Viper, WolverineWire's Isaiah Hole caught up recently with Barrett and transcribed Brown, who makes it sound like Solomon's coming:

I would say there’s a pretty good battle going on at the VIPER position between Michael Barrett and Anthony Solomon. We feel good about both of those guys’s ability. Their ability to run, cover, straight-line blitz. But we also have Mohan – who has his nickname ‘Apache’ – and he’s really got great straight-line pressure ability, and has a knack for it as well. Those three guys for sure.

Don Brown's presser made it sound like Kalel Mullings is starting to have his light go on, which is good news because he can flat-out fly. Brown also mentioned Cornell Wheeler is finally back with the team after being unavailable. However Brown then mentioned two walk-ons—seniors Adam Shibley and Adam Fakih—before getting to Mullings and Hill-Green.

Osman Savage was the odd man out and entered the transfer portal last night. Charles Thomas hasn't been brought up.

What it means: Nobody's really worried about linebacker; Savage looks like a very early depth chart transfer, a la Drew Singleton, that is more a signal he doesn't want to battle the next Cam McGrone for a job. I do get some willies from the Hill-Green talk because coaches tend to fall in love with Devin Gils and Joe Boldens when there are perfectly good Josh Rosses and Ben Gedeons sitting around. But don't take me seriously; talk about a true freshman this year is a good thing.

It does sound like Barrett should take Solomon seriously now. That's a change, and one I take as a good sign for Solomon.

YMRTPGFSFSA: 2017. This was Devin Bush's sophomore effort, with Mike McCray at WILL and Noah Furbush coming in at SAM when they needed one. It was great, and portended even greater things for 2018.

It could also be 1998, when they had Ian Gold and Sam Sword and Dhani Jones, and returned Clint Copenhaver and Anthony Jordan at SAM but also had a freak freshman in Victor Hobson they couldn't wait to play, and the coaches were talking about Eric Brackins for some reason when they had a perfectly good Larry Foote…sorry sorry I'll stop.

Depth Chart: 1. McGrone/Ross/Barrett or Solomon, 2. Mullings/Hill-Green

Secondary

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Yes, we know they're ready for Michigan State, but what about real offenses? [Fuller]

What we want to hear: DJ Turner II is stepping up at cornerback and they are really liking—say—Gemon Green.

What we're hearing: WolverineWire's Isaiah Hole has been talking to Ambry Thomas and was one of the first to confirm the heart-sinking news that he's not playing.

Brown layed out the depth chart thusly:

On the back end, Brad Hawkins is Brad Hawkins and plays really well. Daxton Hill is Daxton Hill; we think he has high high ceiling, has not reached that ceiling in terms of potential turned into every-down performance, but he is certainly going in the right direction. Sammy Faustin has improved dramatically. At the corner position Gemon Green also joins DJ Turner and Jalen Perry as high-level players.

We've still got some question to answer, to be honest with you. [Competition is good] and we still have some significant practice time in front of us before we make any decisions.

Hole thinks that means Perry is ahead of Gemon, or was.

So the hype guy lately is Sammy Faustin, who was a guy again, along with Hunter Reynolds. On their podcast Steve Lorenz noted Faustin…

"is a player we know wasn't going to be a Year 1 or even Year 2 guy, so if he's ready to step up that could be a recruiting win for Don Brown, since this is when that was supposed to happen."

Cornerback depth being what it is, we shouldn't be surprised that Michigan's looking to bring Daxton Hill down to slot corner in nickel situations if a safety is better than their third corner. That seems to now be the plan($) said Sam Webb last week, and confirmed by Don Brown yesterday. Except it sounds more serious than that:

Last season, Daxton Hill played primarily at safety. Now, according to The Michigan Insider's Sam Webb($), it appears Hill is in line for a position switch to corner. While that move might not be permanent, it's a testament to Hill's coverage abilities and being versatile. U-M head coach Jim Harbaugh discussed Hill's move and the impact it would make on the defense at this present moment.

“Nothing is definite,” Harbaugh exclusively told The Michigan Insider. “Dax is really talented, versatile, and can play safety, nickel and corner, and has. We are really anticipating great things from him this season, and it could be from any of those spots.”

It will surprise nobody that the coaches were trying hard to bring back Ambry Thomas, and that a lot of people Ambry talks to, including Jansen, came off as very optimistic before that was shut down. 

Sam keeps saying Makari Paige is standing out, but believes Faustin would be the guy if Dax is indeed a cornerback.

As was previously reported, Faustin has already earned Don Brown’s dude of the day twice this fall. That comes on the heels of talk last year by now departed coaches of coverage potential on par with that of Brad Hawkins. There had even talk of moving Faustin to corner. At the same time there areas where the need for improvement was highlighted too. The most notable of which was the need for him to gain a firmer grasp of the defense. It appears he has done that.

On Paige:

“This guy is a safety all the way, tremendous length,” Brown said. “I’d conservatively say he is 6-2. I think he is taller than that. He really plays well over the slot. We have a number of guys playing pretty well over the slot, and they get tested by our receivers every day … you hate to draw too many conclusions …”

Prior to this Sam Webb hazarded a depth chart that has Gray at one spot and DJ Turner/Gemon Green battling for the other. Turner was leading for the nickel spot, followed by the two freshmen. Ronnie Bell talked up a guy who used to be in his room:

I think all the corners have been playing really well. One though who was playing receiver last year, George (Johnson). George is now at DB, and I think he's been doing really good, especially considering he didn't play at DB until this year. He was at receiver all last year. So considering it's his first time at DB, I think he's been doing really well.

And Don Brown mentioned Eamonn Dennis in his presser: "can really fly and run." He also mentioned their man free (Cover 1) tendency was a bit excessive:

“Obviously, it’s very true (we play man), but … everybody thinks we are a man free team dominantly, and with that being said, we were 62nd out of 65 power five teams in RPOs we saw,” Brown said. “The reason for that is because of the man free ability.

“But we can also show you man free and show other things. To say we haven't expanded that would be a lie. We’ve definitely expanded the package, which we do every year. We feel like we're in a good place right now with our coverage disguise and flexibility and number of concepts we play … I feel strong about abilities there, but coverage flexibility is a big deal ... disguise is important as we move forward.”

As for safety, Lorenz confirmed Jordan Morant is back($) but firmly behind the other two freshmen who've been here due to injuries.

What it means: I'm sorry to do this everybody but it is now time to pull out the…

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WE ARE AT ELEVATED

The Michigan Secondary Panicometer recognizes there are degrees of terrifying secondary offseasons. Zones:

  • SWEET: PFF is making numerous graphics to show how insanely good Michigan's returning players were last year. You may laugh about anything up to Ohio State.
  • MOSTLY SAFE: You are marked Jarrod Wilson. Bad things probably won't happen to you unless you're playing Ohio State, but you are advised to watch for slot fades anyway.
  • ELEVATED RISK: Certain positions are may not be able to cover Notre Dame slots or Penn State tight ends without help. Might be able to get by anyways. Use caution.
  • NEVER FORGET: What seams?

You could spin this as Sammy Faustin and Makari Paige are playing well enough that the coaches would rather get one of them on the field than DJ Turner, Jalen Perry, Andre Seldon, or anybody else. But one of our strongest metrics is when they're talking about everybody—and now literally every cornerback on the roster has been mentioned—they have nobody. An even stronger metric is position-switches, with the nature of the switch suggesting the nature of the problems. In this case they're moving a future NFL safety who's only a true sophomore, and that has to mean they think they need more options at cornerback than what's in front of them. At best this is a pandemic reason.

The coaches are spinning it as wanting to have options, which is understandable when COVID could wipe out your position group, and more understandable when COVID could wipe out one of the one or two cornerbacks you trust to have out there. You can't spin this as good. They couldn't get Ambry Thomas back and they know they can't keep up playing man to man, is how it reads to me.

We are going to Elevated. Try to avoid any Minnesotas.

/Big Ten schedules Minnesota for Game 1

/Rashod Bateman returns

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YMRTPGFSFSA: No no no it's not any of the NEVER FORGET years, but it does start to feel like my early college years, when Woodson left early but they still had Marcus Ray and a five-star in Tommy Hendricks at safety, a solid but exploitable veteran cornerback in Andre Weathers, a hyped but not at all viable cornerback in James Whitley, and a reliable but also very small true freshman in Todd Howard they could turn to. When Ray got hurt they played DeWayne Patmon, who was alright and is our Sammy Faustin comp.

Depth Chart: 1. Hawkins/Dax/Gray/can we clone Dax, 2. Faustin/Paige/Turner/Seldon, 3. Green, Green-Warren

Special Teams/COVID/Etc.

Longsnapper Camaran Cheeseman opted out of the season. Last year's backup was grad transfer Trey Harper, who's also gone. Hopefully someone has levers.

The Big Ten has announced their deal for rapid surveillance testing. Other than hockey definitively being included the big news from that release is there's a limit how many people a team can claim:

Michigan currently has 134 players on their roster, and last I counted their staff list is around 50, so some walk-ons are going to have to be left out. Certain programs that pride themselves on letting every teenager in 400 miles walk onto their program are in worse shape.

Wow.

Finally a thank you to reader Gulogull37, who took notes on Don Brown's presser, and put them on the board with some analysis.

Comments

Wallaby Court

October 1st, 2020 at 3:27 PM ^

Re: Mazi, I have no insider info, but if you're making odds I'd rank the odds of Sam writing something cagey that allays fears without saying why Mazi's not around higher than portal news.

I have read this sentence five or six times and I still cannot make heads or tails of what Seth tried to say.

NYC Fan3

October 1st, 2020 at 4:18 PM ^

Take it easy on Seth.  He appears to have taken over Ace’s recruiting responsibilities while still doing everything else he does for the site. Not to mention, Seth is the only one of the big 3 to interact with the users on MGoBoard.

Nice piece, Seth.

Any thoughts of getting a Michigan Student to help cover some of the press conferences, recruiting updates?  Similar to what Heiko used to do.

CFraser

October 1st, 2020 at 7:41 PM ^

This was for sure confusing but I think the gist was that he thinks Sam will try to calm concerns and that it’s less likely Mazi leaves than overcomes whatever nebulous reason for him being absent from hype. I, personally, am shocked he and Hinton aren’t 1A/B at DT; and I’m not sure if it’s a good or bad sign that others are doing better. 

bronxblue

October 1st, 2020 at 10:02 PM ^

As others have noted it'll be one of those program PR articles where "Young players are still getting their feet under them but the staff has immense confidence in them, you get better at the end versus the start of the year, etc." gets trotted out.  Your level of credulity versus cynicism will be tested.

I'm of the mindset that big guys tend to struggle breaking into the college game, and sometimes they figure it out and sometimes they don't.  You want to keep them around in case they do, and I hope Smith does work out here.

Spitfire

October 1st, 2020 at 3:55 PM ^

Thing that I liked: I think they like this group enough in fact that they're going to play a lot more two-back sets.

Thing that I didn't like: 

I'm sorry to do this everybody but it is now time to pull out the…

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WE ARE AT ELEVATED

 

Weird thing: The testing cap at 170 has implications for Nebraska, which lists a Big Ten-high 154 players on its roster. The Huskers must likely now reduce their roster size. Didn't know teams carried that many players on their rosters. I assume there's a limit for dressing and/or travelling players on game day?

1982Miller

October 1st, 2020 at 4:34 PM ^

Re the cornerbacks:

I'm not sure why people are surprised. Who exactly has Mike Zordich signed since David Long? A bunch of three stars is who. And what is he doing to rectify the situation? He has one commit from another three star in Jaden McBurrows. Thank god Partirdge and Campanille left the safety room stocked because I have zero confidence that Shoop is going to be anything other than an extremely average recruiter. And the terrifying thing about it is that OSU WR recruiting is absolutely bananas right now. 

As an aside, can't wait to read the panicmeter about the DL in a few years. Yeah that's what happens when you sign four yes four! DL in over two recruiting classes. Oh and two of those guys are Guidiece and Jenkins who are undersized 3 stars with bad or no offer lists. What a mess. 

bronxblue

October 1st, 2020 at 10:08 PM ^

It's depressing that I've seen enough of these Maizen accounts pop up that his writing style has become a distinctive tell.  It's the same hyperbolic complaints about a single position group (always referencing OSU as a counterpoint) and a consistent ignorance of actual recruiting results when framing his complaints.  

JonnyHintz

October 1st, 2020 at 8:41 PM ^

4 star corners signed since Long:

Ambry Thomas, Ben St-Juste, Myles Sims, Jalen Perry, Andre Seldon, Darion Green-Warren.

Gemon Green and DJ Turner were top 400 prospects just short of four star status as well.

 

As for your DL comment, we have 4 recruits in this class alone. We had four last year (one transferred already), and 5 in 2019. So not really sure which two year class you’re looking at in terms of DL recruits. 
 

overall, this was just a really misinformed opinion that you should have just deleted (or not typed at all) after doing the SLIGHTEST bit of research.

Richard75

October 1st, 2020 at 5:20 PM ^

Trust the defense.

We go through this every year. Last year people were convinced heading in that the O would carry the D. We wound up 68th in total offense and 11th in total defense.

The defense is the known commodity. It has a reasonable number of returnees. One CB isn't the difference between the #11 D and a disaster. Trust the defense.

JonnyHintz

October 1st, 2020 at 10:12 PM ^

If your point of comparison is to look at the OSU game, you’re going to be disappointed. Elite offenses are going to score. On EVERY defense. We held Alabama to their season low in points last season... 35. 
 

The defense is going to do what it has to do, but to win big in modern college football you have to be able to put points up yourself. And when you’re not doing that, you have to give your D a chance by flipping field position. Period. 
 

If your gauge of a good/great defense is to look at how they perform against an elite offense, you’ll be disappointed far more often than not. No, our defense didn’t stop OSU. And no, adding an elite corner isn’t going to suddenly help in that area either. Simply trust that we’re going to be a borderline top 10-20 defense like we do every year and our offense will simply have to make up for the times when that isnt enough to win. 

Transfer Portal

October 1st, 2020 at 10:49 PM ^

Yeah I would agree with you that I'm disappointed that OSU drops 60 on our top rated defense.  I'm also pretty sure that Wisconsin could've done the same if they felt like it, and Alabama at full strength in a game that mattered for them would have been a probable bloodbath.

I'm sure if the last 2 years were reversed OSU would be hanging their hat on their top ranked D.

bronxblue

October 1st, 2020 at 10:15 PM ^

Listen, I'd love to have both of those guys back but Michigan has linemen who can be disruptive on this roster coming back.  Paye showed quite well against the better teams Michigan played, and was able to hold up against the run enough to be a 3-down lineman.  Hutchinson played well and it's safe to assume he'll take another step forward.  And this staff was able to generate a fair bit of pass rush from guys like Mike Danna (who admittedly has gotten more run than Uche in the NFL thus far) that I assume they'll be reasonable successful at replicating this year.

Yes, they'll probably struggle against OSU this year; that has been the case for years now.  

AC1997

October 1st, 2020 at 3:58 PM ^

I don't know why anyone thinks Nico is coming back.  As much as I'd be calling him and jumping on his social media to beg him if I were a coach or QB of this team.....we would have heard by now if he was coming back.  Sucks....

Still find the McCaffrey departure odd given the nature of this year and the fact that Milton can only show so much in non-contact practices.....maybe there's more to the story.  Odd.

I'm terrified of our DBs.  I'd feel better if we had a generational DL to make their jobs easier, but we don't.  We're hoping for a solid DL.  

Kevin13

October 1st, 2020 at 4:22 PM ^

I too think there is more to the McCaffery story then meets the eye. I think short of his injury last year he probably would’ve been starting. Basically a week before leaving he’s leading a protest to play and his mother was very outspoken about wanting there to be a season. Then out of the blue he ups and leaves.

find it hard that Milton has just blown by him that much or Cade has also caught or passed him in depth chart that he wouldn’t earn playing time and also wouldn’t loose a year of eligibility even if he played.  Something does t add up 

Snazzy_McDazzy

October 2nd, 2020 at 12:46 AM ^

I think the fanbase (as well as the contributors to this site) misread the QB competition. I don't think the coaching staff ever viewed McCaffery as having a leg up on Milton. And if my assumption is correct, then there's nothing strange about the former's departure given what a great offseason Milton has had.

schreibee

October 1st, 2020 at 11:35 PM ^

Based on WHAT?!

They shut down team activities months ago. They didn't finish Spring practice, or have a Spring game. Did DMac ever even return to campus?

When/how did Milton blow so far by him? When was the organized team activity where that occurred. 

More to the point, when did Cade pass DMac, and based on what? 

I think it's obvious, but no one wants to say it for some reason. 

He was told to get to work, even if it was not official team activities (as Milton did with the WRs & DG).

I think rash statements & hasty decisions were made.

And DMac will be starting for N. Colorado in the Spring...

Carpetbagger

October 1st, 2020 at 4:34 PM ^

Re: Nico. Some people are simply incapable of reading between the lines.

The McCaffrey thing is more difficult. Obviously he feels like he got beat out and is moving on. We (not him) just don't understand what is gained by leaving now. It must make sense to him. Perhaps it will make sense to us later on.

I'm not worried about the DBs. Just because none of them have played doesn't mean anything. For whatever reason Brown doesn't rotate those guys, so we could have 2 Woodson's back there and we'd have no idea. Zordich is our best position coach. He'll get 'em ready.

Like you I'm more worried they'll have to cover for too long because we have no pass rush.

Watching From Afar

October 1st, 2020 at 5:21 PM ^

For whatever reason Brown doesn't rotate those guys, so we could have 2 Woodson's back there and we'd have no idea.

I'm not a big doom and gloom guy, and I know you didn't mean this literally (in the 21st century sense of the word), but there is no planet where this could be reasonably assumed.

Turner was a true freshman last year behind 3 other, older, CBs. Makes sense he didn't play much. But we know that the other CBs currently in the running for playing time were worse than Gray was last year, which is why they didn't play. Gray was a solid CB against most competition. He is not a Charles Woodson, which means the other guys are definitely not either. Could Gray and the other guys be All-Conference? Sure. Is that highly likely? No.

Carpetbagger

October 1st, 2020 at 5:34 PM ^

Touche, nobody could beat out Gray last year, so as of last year no one was better than him. It's unlikely there are any Woodson's lurking in our defensive backfield.

I didn't think Gray was bad though. Although I didn't have much good to say about Thomas before he entered the lineup, he was great as a starter. So there was really only one spot to vie for.

If we can get a couple guys as good as Gray was last year, and Gray is better than last year, I'm fine with that. And if it forces Brown to go with more zone, I'm definitely on board with that.

Watching From Afar

October 1st, 2020 at 6:11 PM ^

Although I didn't have much good to say about Thomas before he entered the lineup, he was great as a starter. 

Sure, but this is where recruiting, hype, and observable info comes in. Thomas was a higher ranked guy than any of the current CBs on the roster. And not by a small margin. I don't look at recruiting as only stars matter, it's a case by case situation, but when we don't have tape we have to draw conclusions from somewhere.

Next, we have hype. Thomas was talked about as the next guy up after Lewis/Hill/Long as early on as his freshman year. Still don't understand why they didn't throw him in against OSU when it was clear crossers were going to be ran until the cows came home, but we heard he was going to be good.

And then there was observable info. He may not have played much as a freshman or even sophomore, but he was the starting KR and even got in on offense some because that's how good of an athlete he is.

Compared to Green, Perry, and Turner, Thomas had significantly more evidence to claim he could step in and be a top Big Ten CB. I think Turner could be pretty good given his HS level of competition and continually being good when few recruiting sites seemed to bring him up. Perry was a UGA back up plan. Could still be good because a low end UGA CB is a pretty damn good option, but not top end. Green has been on campus the longest and never really risen to the top of any potential list. There have been comments about him being the most likely #2 in Thomas' absence, but that was more just by way of limited other options.

I say this, not to imply the secondary is shit and in for 1,000 bombs from above. Per usual, they will be capable of competing with 80% of the guys they see on any given Sunday. But it's the other 20% of the time that has kept Michigan from pushing into top 5 status instead of just top 10-12.

I 100% agree with you that maybe now, the defensive coaching staff will actually implement a plan B that isn't just plan A, but angrier. DT is a concern, but outside of that there isn't a huge gaping hole anywhere on the defense except at CB2 and CB3.

Carpetbagger

October 2nd, 2020 at 9:52 AM ^

RE: Plan A but angrier. Couldn't agree more. I've been operating under the assumption Brown's defense before Michigan never had enough people focused on it to really figure out how to beat it. Now it has, and like the Tampa 2 is in the past as a base defense. Concepts from it will live on, but as a base, it's over.

I'm hoping Brown understands that. If not, well, OSU is going to keep hanging 50 plus on us.

The rest of your points are all logical, and I agree with all your thinking. But there are more than just the hyper-athletic Long/Thomas types who can make good corners. I think Zordich can make good corners out of the rest in a more zone/quarters based scheme where a couple years seasoning makes them smart, if not any more athletic.

Don't get me wrong I'd prefer a couple of Long/Thomas types paired with a better scheme, but we aren't getting those guys right now.

Watching From Afar

October 2nd, 2020 at 5:11 PM ^

O, I completely agree. I think Zordich can piece together an effective group of of he CBs he has. That just means he can't run the same sets her did with Lewis/Long/Hill/Thomas. Playing to the strengths that his players have now is necessary. Rather than the whole square peg round hole approach as of the last 2 seasons.

robpollard

October 1st, 2020 at 4:40 PM ^

I suppose there is technically a chance Nico comes back, but it has to be one in a million.

Dude hasn't tweeted in two months, and he announced for the draft literally the day B1G football was brought back -- the other players who came back to college announced they were leaving before they knew, for sure, there would be fall football.

I find it inexplicable. As far as I know, he has no underlying conditions and is just doing this to improve his stock for the draft. Is that right? Wouldn't being the 2004 Braylon of this offense help your draft stock more than sitting on a couch and running wind sprints & cone drills at some high-performance sports complex in suburban Florida (or where ever)? And did he not enjoy his time at Michigan? I would think it would be a dang good time to play football, with a bunch of guys who are my buds, at a great university, and be a big man on campus.