Derrick Walton Is Weird, The Chart
[Left: Bryan Fuller | Right: Joseph Dressler]
Brian brought up Derrick Walton's unusual statistical profile in his Maryland column today. It's not the first time we've noted Walton is far from a traditional point guard. He rebounds like a center, snipes spot-up three-pointers, lets his teammates handle much of the distribution, and generally makes himself impossible to compare to other players his size.
As we discussed Walton's lack of comparable players in the MGoSlack chat, our own Alex Cook decided to harness the power of Excel to find other recent Big Ten players with Walton's combination of rebounding and outside shooting acumen. The results are of the "holy $#^%" variety:
Parameters: >30% min, >15% usage, >20% 3PA/FGA
Walton is the only player to post even a 10% defensive rebound rate while making over half his three-point attempts—and he's at 21.6%. The other players in similar rebounding/shooting territory:
- 6'9", 232-pound Christian Watford, the stretch four on Indiana's outstanding 2013 squad.
- 6'10", 245-pound Goran Suton, the center on MSU's 2009 Final Four squad. Walton has already attempted more threes than Suton did that season.
- 7'0", 242-pound Frank Kaminsky, center of last year's Wisconsin team that knocked off then-undefeated Kentucky.
- 6'7", 230-pound Draymond Green, the KenPom Player of the Year that season who's now helping revolutionize the game for Golden State due to his versatility and ability to play bigger than his size.
Derrick Walton, it should be noted, is 6'1", 190. He's not a normal point guard, and that sometimes hurts Michigan, but he's quite literally a unique talent, and Michigan has been able to surround him with players who mitigate his lack of point-guardness, if you'll allow me to make up a word. While it would be nice to see him finish more at the rim, Walton's shooting is taking pressure off the wings, and his rebounding is a huge help to the bigs; there's not another player in the country like him.
January 13th, 2016 at 2:52 PM ^
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January 13th, 2016 at 3:13 PM ^
Sooo....who's the guy with the 15% 3pt shooting and 5% rebounding rate?
January 13th, 2016 at 3:27 PM ^
It's Tarrance Crump, guard off the bench for Purdue in 2008. He barely fit the criteria. Went 4/27 from three as a senior.
January 13th, 2016 at 3:29 PM ^
Not just a not-shooter.
January 13th, 2016 at 4:00 PM ^
Tarrance Crump sure sounds like a guy who's not that great at the basketballs.
January 13th, 2016 at 3:22 PM ^
not just a shooter? Anytime a player is a weird combo he gets the moniker of DWIW
January 13th, 2016 at 3:25 PM ^
I think a lot of this has to do with scheme, starting last year it appears that Beilein has the bigs box out and then Walton flies down for the rebound. Sure he's good at doing that but I don't think his dreb rate would be anywhere near as high anywhere else.
January 13th, 2016 at 3:36 PM ^
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Donnal has a defensive rebound rate of 18%. For reference, Morgan was at 19% his senior year. It's unclear anything has changed scheme-wise.
That whole scheme-meme comes from Doyle - who is just flat-out a terrible rebounder (12% DRB rate). If it was about scheme, he wouldn't be the only one. Bielfeldt and Donnal last year were far better than Doyle at this.
So, while I agree you have a point about scheme playing a part in this I think it's more about the 4 than the 5. Michigan still wants it's 5 to rebound, they just aren't very good at it. Walton happens to be so he fills the needed void.
January 13th, 2016 at 5:08 PM ^
I believe as the rotation gets settled, everyone will play better because everyone will have a better understanding of what they need to do to increase the chances of winning. Because we don't win games with one on one athletic superiority, we win with execution, I think it takes us longer to figure out what is going to be reliable. Once you know what you can rely on, then you can gameplan a lot better. Our post play and defense may not improve a lot, but if the team can learn how to execute Beilein's offensive system against good defenses, we will be fine. And fun to watch.
January 14th, 2016 at 8:38 PM ^
I'm not going by stats, I'm just saying I noticed starting last year that often our bigs would box out and not even go for the ball as Walton swooped down and grabbed it and it definitely looked like something new compared to prior years. I could be wrong but it's what appeared to be happening to me.
January 13th, 2016 at 3:27 PM ^
But having met Walton a number of times and being a clean 6'1" myself, Derrick Walton is NOT 6'1". He's lucky if he's 6' even.
This can, should and does make him even weirder. Hail Beilein.
January 13th, 2016 at 4:38 PM ^
Almost everybody's height is exaggerated by 2 to 3 inches or more. Look at any NBA draft combine listing and you see 'real' heights w/o shoes are totally different than listed heights. Except for super-tall dudes like Kevin Garnett (who didn't want to be 7' because he wanted to be a PF) or super-short dudes like Mugsey Bouges (what's the point of pretending) heights are overstated.
January 13th, 2016 at 3:28 PM ^
My only issue is he seems to play with an inconsistent intensity level on both side of the ball. I find myself wondering how good he could be if he brings every game or even the majority of games. Hopefully, it will all click for him.
January 13th, 2016 at 3:52 PM ^
His long lost lookalike uncle, NFL union guy Demaurice Smith, would approve. (someone please post a photo here)
January 13th, 2016 at 10:55 PM ^
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January 13th, 2016 at 3:43 PM ^
Great stuff.
January 13th, 2016 at 4:06 PM ^
If he continues to produce like he did last night, he can be as weird as he wants to be, IMO...
January 13th, 2016 at 4:09 PM ^
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January 13th, 2016 at 4:20 PM ^
The truth is Walton is not a point guard. He is a two guard in a point guard body. He does not have the elite ball skills or vision of a true point guard. He does have a good jumper and ability to find open space for his shot. That is one of the reasons Rahk, Irvin and LeVert often bring the ball up court, they are all about equal with their handle.
January 13th, 2016 at 4:47 PM ^
He is a PG who just happens to to be really good at rebounding. He is 12th in the Big Ten in assists per game. He isn't as good as LeVert with the ball but he runs the offense effectively and without turning the ball over much, like all Michigan PGs.
Rhak per 100 possessions: 3.0 assists
Irvin per 100 possessions: 6.4 assists
Walton per 100 possessions: 7.7 assists
Alberches (last year) per 100 possessions: 8.0 assists
Dakich per 100 possessions: 8.4 assists
January 13th, 2016 at 4:54 PM ^
and I like that name change.
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January 14th, 2016 at 3:08 PM ^
People said the same about Trey Burke. Walton's not as good as Burke, but being a good shooter doesn't preclude you from being a point guard. You'd think Steph Curry would change a few minds on this front.
Walton's not Darius Morris in terms of passing ability (neither was Trey) but he's a good passer. He's an excellent ball-handler. He rarely turns it over. He pushes the fast break aggressively. In short- he manages the PG position very very well.
What he isn't great at is running the pick and roll. Part of that is that our centers are terrible. Part of it is that Caris and Stauskas are better players.
Valentine is the lead ball-handler on MSU, that doesn't mean Tum Tum is not a PG.
January 15th, 2016 at 9:10 AM ^
He isn't a pick-and-roll PG or a drive-and-draw guy. What he does is run the break (which he is good at), spot-up shoot and get assists off swinging the ball on the perimeter. The fact that Albrecht and Dakich had/have better assist rates tells you all you need to know.
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January 13th, 2016 at 4:46 PM ^
During Walton's promising freshman year he did show an ability to drive and finish at the hoop. Where did that go? I'm curious if his injury sapped some of his confidence in that department or if the spacing provided by Hardaway, Staustkas, Robinson etc. gave him more open lanes. You think with the snipers we have this year he'd have the same opportunities. He really is good at running the break and finding shooters in transition. Beilein hinted during halftime that getting stops on defense enables him to run and attack an unsettled defense and "do more things" we want him to do. Hopefully as the defense improves we'll see more of that.
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January 13th, 2016 at 7:19 PM ^
I'm excited to see where the Derrick Walton is secretley 6'10 tag is going to take us
January 13th, 2016 at 8:31 PM ^
Maybe Derrick Walton is Fat Lever reincarnated. Lever was a 6-3 guard for the Denver Nuggets in the 80s-90s who averaged 6.0 rpg over an 11-year career. He averaged 8.9 rpg over a 4-year stretch from 86-87 to 89-90. And he dished out assists. Weird and amazing.
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