Shea Patterson, Others Outline Their Argument to NCAA to Get Immediately Eligibility
Finally, the details on how Shea's working to become our quarterback this fall. The six transfers from Ole Miss have officially outlined their argument to the NCAA as to why they should be eligible NOW. From the story:
Six former Ole Miss football players who transferred to other schools after the Rebels were hit with additional NCAA penalties plan to build their appeals for immediately eligibility around text messages they say were sent to recruits to downplay the severity of the NCAA investigation into the program.
According to screenshots of text messages exchanged by recruits who signed with the Rebels in 2016, the players were allegedly told that the NCAA violations involving the Ole Miss football program occurred before Hugh Freeze was hired as head coach in 2012.
February 1st, 2018 at 11:31 PM ^
It's late and I may be too sleepy, but this quote from the ESPN article makes it sound like Shea was misleading other recruits. I guess the point is that he was lied to and then spread the lie? BTW, Nixon in the quote below is Tre, one of the other kids appealing.
"In a text message exchange between Patterson and Nixon on Jan. 29, 2016, which was shared with ESPN, Patterson told Nixon: "don't listen to any of that crap. It happened before [Freeze] was even there. The worst thing that can happen will be lose one or two scholarships for next year. Nothing serious. It's all good over here homie."
February 2nd, 2018 at 12:00 AM ^
February 2nd, 2018 at 9:41 AM ^
Shea is just passing on what Freeze told him earlier. That is part of the article and is shown in other texts between Shea and Freeze.
February 2nd, 2018 at 8:36 AM ^
This is true, but the reasoning for Shea texting that to Nixon is shown later in the article - Shea messaged Freeze asking for clarification on the allegations against Ole Miss, and Freeze sent him an article laying out that the allegations were for other sports, and not football. That is the definition of misleading someone.
February 2nd, 2018 at 9:59 AM ^
Seems to me that proving Freeze and the Ole Miss staff lied to recruits is the easy part. The more difficult question IMO is whether the recruits genuinely believed what the Ole Miss people were telling them. The text message seems pretty compelling on that score.
February 2nd, 2018 at 11:02 AM ^
February 2nd, 2018 at 1:41 PM ^
It was one of those five-minute mysteries.
February 1st, 2018 at 11:43 PM ^
....homie!
February 1st, 2018 at 11:54 PM ^
classic
February 2nd, 2018 at 12:08 AM ^
Were they outlining their argument or making their case?
February 2nd, 2018 at 12:11 AM ^
February 2nd, 2018 at 12:20 AM ^
I don't mean to be a downer, but the longer this goes on, the less likely I think they get waivers. I mean, when is the last time the NCAA was reasonable about something?
February 2nd, 2018 at 8:25 AM ^
I agree that we can never count on the NCAA to get anything right, but the timeline won't have anything to do with it. This is in waiting because they are building the best case possible for the players
February 2nd, 2018 at 9:44 AM ^
They are building the case for all the Ole Miss players and not handling it on a case by case basis. Kind of like a class action suit. With all the talk about altering the transfer rules, this flagerant lying by the Ole Miss staff sounds like the NCAA will have a no-brainer issue. This is perfect because there aren't a whole lot of brains in that group anyway.
February 2nd, 2018 at 4:06 PM ^
No reason to get down... yet. The players and their respective schools haven't yet submitted the paperwork, so there's nothing for the NCAA to rule on.
February 2nd, 2018 at 12:29 AM ^
February 2nd, 2018 at 8:05 AM ^
I think Espn was only given stuff that did nothing to implicate coaches... for other reasons, i.e. the only text supplied was between two players. The document submission very likely provides a pretty clear narrative of events showing that freeze mislead these recruits. If you pull from this narrative from the document and assume they have the exhibits to back it up, I think they are probably there:
"Coach Freeze delivered the misleading 'false narrative' to [the journalist], waited until [his] story went online, and then drafted a DM [direct message] to one of his assistants (commenting 'Good PR response' on the false information that he himself had given to the [journalist]), and directed the assistant to send the link to [his] story to all the recruits," the document says.
Showing that the information sent in the article was a false narrative is probably fairly easy to do in hind sight. Since they are alleging that he accidentally sent this direct message to a recruit, there isn't any speculation needed.
February 2nd, 2018 at 1:50 AM ^
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February 2nd, 2018 at 6:39 AM ^
February 2nd, 2018 at 6:50 AM ^
He should come as a package deal with an NCAA investigator that is given access to the entire AD at whatever school hires him. I mean, its been proven that he ran a pay for play scheme. If you can't keep him from coaching, put a monitor on him wherever he goes. Bama would not have even looked at him if that were the case...
February 2nd, 2018 at 6:47 AM ^
February 2nd, 2018 at 6:52 AM ^
If he delivers Natural Light to his teammates AA, he will be proven as a Grade A dick. Friends don't let friends drink Natural Light...
February 2nd, 2018 at 8:44 AM ^
Due to budgetary restrictions, Natty light and Keystone light were my drinks of choice in college. Once in awhile I would "splurge" and get bud light.
February 2nd, 2018 at 8:58 AM ^
February 2nd, 2018 at 12:42 PM ^
I tried Red Dog once, and that's all I needed.
February 2nd, 2018 at 9:35 AM ^
Man, Natty Light was usually a luxury purchase for me. Usually I would just buy whatever shit beer Premo had marked down at the Blue Front. Some of the worst beers ever: Schlitz Ice, Huber Bock, Genessee Cream Ale, Coors Artic Ice. There was one day he sold me twelve 22 oz. bottles of skunked Algonquin Lager for like $1 each, and I felt like I'd won the lottery.
February 2nd, 2018 at 10:36 AM ^
Tried on a couple of occassions, and just could never gag one of those down. Not a cream ale or malt liquor guy.
February 2nd, 2018 at 8:23 AM ^
Oh, come now.....delivering Natty to AA? That's just cruel and unnecessary.
Actually, delivering Natty anywhere to anyone is cruel and unnecessary.
February 2nd, 2018 at 10:15 AM ^
February 2nd, 2018 at 12:22 PM ^
I'd just as soon drink water as that stuff. Has about the same effect.
February 2nd, 2018 at 12:22 PM ^
see subject