OT: Star Wars Rogue One Trailer 2

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It's hard for me to not get excited about a new Star Wars movie, but I'm really, really pumped for this one. I think without the baggage of the main story arc and characters, they have the freedom and potential to make a great movie period, not just a great Star Wars movie. The cast looks great and the action sequences look weighty and powerful. Plus Darth freaking Vader, with James Earl Jones reprising the voice acting role.

 

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Michigan Arrogance

August 13th, 2016 at 7:16 AM ^

The backstory is that she's been abandoned to fend for herself all alone as a scavenger of starships. She's clearly knowledgable about the systems and how they operate. She probably worked on the falcon for unkar plot on jakku off and on for years. She knows how to repair almost anything after scavenging parts from almost any starship or speeder over the last 10 years of her life

Also to survive that long on a next to lawless planet, she can clearly defend herself with a staff. So saber combat is not unfamiliar. Additionally she is very athletic and fit from needing to scale the old star destroyers and hauling equipment on her own for 10 years.

As far as Jedi skills and feeling the force, the mind probe that ren used on her likely opened up, or shall I say AWAKENED her force ability in a more rapid manner than what we have seen from other Jedi as they begin. Also the saber vision and the unique call to her by the force is not something that happens to all Jedi necessarily.

Her back story is much different than any other Jedi as was her introduction to the force. The problem is not with the character



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MichiganTeacher

August 13th, 2016 at 9:05 AM ^

Nah. VII is still a great movie, but they missed with Rey's force powers. There's nothing there to say why every other Jedi we've seen has needed training - and even those that we haven't, hence an Academy - but suddenly Rey does not. If they were even to comment on it - Han could have, Maz could have - that would have gone a long way to keeping immersion for me. But they didn't It's a miss. It's ok. They can still go back and do it in VIII, and even if they don't, VII is still super.

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Michigan Arrogance

August 13th, 2016 at 10:57 AM ^

Eh you're misunderstanding the nature of the force I think. There are many force sensitives (Leia, Han perhaps, maz, the blind guy in rogue) who don't get any formal training but can feel the will of the force and perhaps use its influence a bit whether the realize it (maz) or not (Han). Again, Rey's backstory explains her ability to pick up combat easily (and rens injury and limited training and emotional imbalance help expliain her victory). The mind probe awakened her force sensitivity much more rapidly than others and the will of the force is what most dont account for either. Rey picked up very specific powers that she could excel at quickly due to her unique background and unique and sudden awakening to the force, again not even to mention the will of the force itself.

. An academy isn't required-Luke didn't have one and in fact had VERY little training prior to dagobah but could summon his lightsaber. Very little training before facing Vader the 1st time, or even the second really.



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MichiganTeacher

August 12th, 2016 at 9:05 PM ^

Totally agree on Rey. I still enjoyed the movie, but Rey being that good with the Force took me right out of it. I could buy everything else, but not the Force powers, not after Luke's training, Anakin's training, the Academy, everything that the movies had established. I really hope they have a good explanation for Rey's unbelievably fast awakening in Episode VIII. 

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JamieH

August 13th, 2016 at 1:18 AM ^

you have to play by the rules.  The rules of the Star Wars universe have always been that even those with prodigious force powers like Darth Vader needed YEARS of training to harness their powers.  Things like the Jedi Mind trick are supposed to me high-level things.   To have Rey doing it about 5 seconds after she figures out that she is force aware is just utterly ridiculous, UNLESS there is a giant backstory that they are withholding from us at this point, which I fully admit is possible.    Honestly I really hope that is what is going on, because otherwise the whole thing IMO  is just stupid. 

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TheCool

August 12th, 2016 at 10:46 PM ^

First it's difficult to say and pretty presumptuous to say how strong Rey should have been. I mean, there are people who are ridiculously naturally gifted, like some feel she was, in real life. Also, she didn't display master-level Jedi skills. Rey didn't come off to me as too strong. I think people say that mostly because she beat Kylo Ren, who had been shot by Chewie's bowcaster (which blasted Stormtroopers across rooms), just killed is father (emotionally distraught), fought Finn, and was himself just in training. At the same time I see why people can have an issue with it.

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Zarniwoop

August 12th, 2016 at 4:21 PM ^

So they did a basic remake of ANH, now they are doing a basic remake of the ESB.

Awesomely disappointing. You can smell the stench of "generic adventure formula" in the trailer.

Its Star Wars so I'll watch it. But, the first one definitely didn't wow me.

Edit: Yeah, I'm bitter.  I loved Star Wars.

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unWavering

August 13th, 2016 at 9:44 AM ^

I'm going to guess that he's basing it off of the fact that here are AT-ATs. There's literally nothing else in this trailer that shares common ground with ESB. Because clearly, if the empire uses AT-ATs it MUST be a copy of ESB.

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Monkey House

August 12th, 2016 at 5:00 PM ^

i love when people say "it's not as good as the first ones". well no shit, what sequel ever is? btw, u saw star wars as a kid, so of course it's better, you can't have the same connection to these new movies as an adult.

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MichiganTeacher

August 12th, 2016 at 9:26 PM ^

Mind blown.gif

That would be incredible. That would be even better than if Jar Jar had been Snoke (I am keeping hope alive that he still might be).

But that... that actually makes sense and would be one of those things that just makes the entire mythology that much better.

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Michigan Arrogance

August 13th, 2016 at 7:26 AM ^

I agree about the last part- Vader is supposed to be the most powerful, cruel and ruthless enforcer of evil ever- among the most powerful Sith Lords in history (and in and hands on way- unlike the emperor ) but you really don't see much of HOW he got that reputation from the original trilogy-would really add to the depth of the character to see that, but it has to be done right. Remember he was the one hunting for the rebels and the stolen plans at the start of ep4



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goblueatkettering

August 12th, 2016 at 5:04 PM ^

Looks good.  I'm hoping for a dark tone, honestly.  Anything resembling uplifting for the end of this story would be a mistake.  The end of this movie should be bittersweet, because they got the plans, but the cost was great and the Empire still reigns supreme.

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MichiganTeacher

August 12th, 2016 at 9:34 PM ^

I wonder what they think they're doing with the black and white imagery. Director Krennic all in white, stormtroopers in white of course (except the deathtroopers), the rebels and the good droid in black.

I mean, the original is iconic, right, with Leia and Luke in white, Darth Vader in black, Han Solo in half-and-half? So obviously this was a conscious decision to reverse that. But I wonder if they have anything in mind, or if they just thought it'd be cool to even things out.

And, of course, the lush, beautiful planet Scarif is a stark contrast with the desert worlds like Tatooine and Jakku. There's a desert planet here but it seems that it may be the Death Star's first victim. So intentionally blowing up the color scheme and the geography from the old movies and inverting them. Interesting.

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Drbogue

August 13th, 2016 at 8:48 AM ^

I get that this is set before Episode 4, but is this one of the "new 3" movies that was started with the Force Awakens? Or is this in addition to 2 more after that? I was under the impression that Disney was making 3 more movies only. 

 

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unWavering

August 13th, 2016 at 9:47 AM ^

Disney is releasing a new trilogy movie every other year (2015, 2017, and 2019), and will be releasing a non-trilogy movie every year in between that. This is the first non-trilogy movie. Another one will be an origin story for Han Solo (I'm highly wary if that, cool idea but I don't like seeing Han played by anyone other than Harrison Ford), and if I remember correctly the other one will be about Boba Fett.

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