Ohio State to hire Schiano
According to Schefter, Schiano will be the associate head coach and DC.
Former Bucs HC Greg Schiano expected to accept Assoc HC/DC at Ohio State, per source; will replace former OSU DC Chris Ash, new Rutgers HC.
— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) December 11, 2015
December 11th, 2015 at 3:11 PM ^
for Schiano. He hasn't exactly been a hot name recently and this gives him probably the easiest route of creating some positive buzz for himself.
Whether this is all that relevant a hire for OSU, who knows, it's not like Chris Ash was a super highly rated guy when they hired him and he did okay for himself in the job.
We should probably not laugh too much at it though given that Michigan once offered the HC position to Schiano.
December 11th, 2015 at 3:19 PM ^
I'm really not sure why people are laughing at this. I mean I get that we didn't want Schiano... as our head coach. But Ohio State is not hiring him as their head coach.
December 11th, 2015 at 3:22 PM ^
"I'm really not sure why people are laughing at this. I mean I get that we didn't want Schiano... as our head coach. But Ohio State is not hiring him as their head coach."
Not YET any ways ... :)
Strange stuff happens down in Columbus, Ohio ... no one thought Tressl would be gone and Luke Fickell was running the team ...
December 11th, 2015 at 3:59 PM ^
NFL players were not all complimentary about Harbaugh. Again, I'm not going to laugh about this as a hire. I'll laugh when we beat them in the Shoe in 11 months and not a moment sooner.
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this is a home run hire but its a good one. Schiano's being brought in because Urban's two primary rivals run NFL type offenses. Good move by him I think.
December 11th, 2015 at 5:05 PM ^
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December 11th, 2015 at 3:44 PM ^
However, I do have some hesitation, because I'm not sure how adept or experienced he is at defending the spread or running the pattern-matching cover 4 system that made Ash so successful. Hopefully Fickell has a good enough level of understanding of certain concepts of Ash's defense which can translate over and be utilized by Schiano.
But otherwise, an overqualified ex-HC with recruiting ties to Florida and New Jersey is a nice get.
Imagine this is even more temporary a hire than Ash was, because Schiano is clearly looking to be a HC again.
December 11th, 2015 at 3:48 PM ^
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December 11th, 2015 at 4:39 PM ^
At the very least, I would say Schiano is overqualified to be a college DC, underqualified to be an NFL HC, and appropriately qualified to be a college HC.
December 11th, 2015 at 4:55 PM ^
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December 11th, 2015 at 10:33 PM ^
If Schiano wants to learn to be a bigger asshole, then he certainly went to the right place.
December 11th, 2015 at 11:39 PM ^
A fan of Jim Harbaugh calling another team's coach an asshole? Rich.
December 11th, 2015 at 7:38 PM ^
December 11th, 2015 at 3:54 PM ^
Who did he actually sign with his recruiting ties? All I can think of is Ray Rice. Besides, every recruit will know he's out the door as soon as he gets a HC offer so I'm not sure why they would sign up to play for him.
December 11th, 2015 at 4:10 PM ^
Pruitt or Armstrong.
December 11th, 2015 at 4:42 PM ^
Your second point has merit. But I assume most (all?) recruits are generally aware their position coaches may not stay all four of their years, especially if the program is successful.
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Based of Rival's rankings, Rutgers' recruiting classes finished:
2002: 47th in the nation
2003: 45th
2004: 82nd
2005: 69th
2006: 42nd
2007: 37th
2008: 46th
2009: 38th
2010: 64th
2011: 32nd
2012: 24th
Since Schiano left (after the 2011-2012 season), Rutgers' classes:
2013: 45th
2014: 57th
2015: 53rd
Towards the end of Schiano's tenure at Rutgers, he was really starting to lock up the NJ talent. Florida-wise, it looks like Schiano had about 1-2 recruits from there per class.
December 11th, 2015 at 3:49 PM ^
Wow, he's desperate.
December 11th, 2015 at 3:50 PM ^
When I told the Buckeye in my firm, first he swore, then promised to start drinking and sent me this Breaking Madden link:
http://www.sbnation.com/2013/10/23/4862062/greg-schiano-breaking-madden
December 11th, 2015 at 3:51 PM ^
Suprising hire, and yeah, it's a big name and at face value seems extremely good, but you never know until they start playing.
December 11th, 2015 at 3:52 PM ^
Michigan is pulling some talented players out of NJ. Schiano is a big name hire but I'm sure this is a direct attack on the NJ pipeline.
December 11th, 2015 at 3:57 PM ^
Yeah, still remember all those powerhouse Rutgers recruiting classes. Rivals Pete Carroll and Saban.
December 11th, 2015 at 4:08 PM ^
but NJ is a talent rich state. The problem is that Rutgers is a joke, so many of the kids go out of state (don't we have like 6 Jersey kids so far)?
I don't know if the High School kids/ coaches like/ respect Schiano, but he legitimately could pull kids out of NJ that otherwise would have gone to Michigan.
December 11th, 2015 at 4:15 PM ^
Rutgers is a joke and Schiano coached there for 10 years.
He never signed anyone good.
He didn't really show that he could develop lower rated guys.
Everyone knows he's taking a step back and will be out the door as soon as he gets a HC offer.
December 11th, 2015 at 3:58 PM ^
I thought this guy had a good question....
Does the presence of Greg Schiano now mean that Ohio State replaces Rutgers as the Patriots pipeline?
— Han Jolo (@Box_of_Joe) December 11, 2015
December 11th, 2015 at 4:00 PM ^
They're getting a classy dude. He'll be a great fit down there.
Greg Schiano was supposed to be at Don Bosco Preparatory School promptly at 8 a.m. Thursday morning to recruit some key prospects.
That never happened.
As scheduled, five Rutgers assistant coaches showed up at the Ramsey, N.J., school, which showcases several highly rated prospects each year. The coaches were focused on securing current commitment Leonte Carroo, a three-star receiver, and Darius Hamilton, a four-star defensive end who is primarily considering the Scarlet Knights and Florida.
"The coaches were kind of shocked," Don Bosco coach Greg Toal said. "They said 'Coach Schiano, he's never late for anything.' "
At first, the coaches thought Schiano might have gotten caught up in another meeting, despite the importance of the Don Bosco appointment.
"They didn't think it was any big deal," Toal said of their initial response. "They didn't know that he was in negotiations or anything like that."
Then, when reports began to surface that Schiano had accepted the head coaching job for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, the Rutgers assistants were caught unaware.
"No one knows where this is going right now," Toal said. "I'm sure it caught a lot of people off guard."
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jh and schiano will be fighting in nj. just did what jh did last year. HE WILL GO AFTER GRAY BIG TIME
December 11th, 2015 at 4:42 PM ^
He isnt that bad of a choice, just seems like it after all the Schiano for HC talk when Harbaugh was uncertain last year.
December 11th, 2015 at 4:42 PM ^
This seems like it will be harder to recruit in the northeast. I'm sure Michigan will still be fine with all the connections in New Jersey.
December 11th, 2015 at 5:04 PM ^
The only answer is to hire his old mortal enemy, Jim Leavitt.
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December 11th, 2015 at 6:03 PM ^
This is dumb that I have to take the side of an OSU fan in this thread, but there's way too much crazy in here for me to say nothing.
This is a really good hire. I think people are conflating hiring him as a HC at a top program (bad) and hiring him as a DC (good).
Aside from the fact that he had two great years as a DC at Miami, he also built Rutgers into something respectable as a HC and has HC experience in the NFL. Not sure what people think qualifies you to be a DC these days, but that's a steal for OSU.
Yes, he is a huge asshat. Yes, he was a bad NFL coach. But his strengths are player development and running a really aggressive schemed D, which he is well-positioned to do at OSU. Not to mention that his recruiting ties are in Florida and New Jersey, the latter of which is particularly bad for Michigan.
If you want to see what people outside of the Mgoblog bubble are saying, look at the ever-rational reddit/CFB fans. This is basically unanimously considered a home-run hire: https://www.reddit.com/r/CFB/comments/3wf0zd/greg_schiano_to_ohio_state…
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