Lorenz Comments on Radio Show Yesterday

Submitted by alum96 on

For those who follow recruiting but haven't listened to the front page replay here is a summary of comments ahead of a big recruiting weekend.

First most imporant - UM has confirmed to Lorenz 27 is the size of the class.  Subtraction and addition will get UM there. (Most of us expected 28). 

EDIT 4 PM - Lorenz and Ace just put in crystal ballz for Elliott to UM.

Mecole Hardman

  • If it was today it would be GA or TN.  Delaying to NSD only helps Michigan which is a dark horse.  Peppers utilization is a draw - not quite the player Peppers is but not too far away.

Terrance Davis

  • Long time leader with UM.  Went to dinner with Drevno and entire family incl Drevno mom.  Loves UM.  With 2 guards already in class, UM would prefer another tackle aka Jean Delance.  If UM gave green light to Davis Lorenz think he would commit but trying for Delance for now.  (Delance rescheduled this weekend's official due to his team advancing in playoffs).  Bottom line: If UM wants him, he is coming.  Of course risk is slow ball and get neither at end.

Dontavious Jackson + Chris Brown (HS teammates)

  • Both had come up here for a 4 day unofficial in spring.  Brown not as highly rated but UM likes his game - could play CB or S.  With Brown it's UM or Texas. 
  • Jackson's recruitment is more national of a battle but Texas vs Michigan might be the battle here too.   Texas struggles have helped UM with these 2 kids as well as others. 

Pie Young, Velus Jones, Dylan Crawford

  • Lorenz expects wr recruiting to play out over time as UM wants Crawford.  (Oregon heavy in mix as Crawford's "dream offer")  Pie Young would commit if green lighted.  Still a tiny chance for Corley but most think MSU. (announces Dec 8th).  McDoom is sort of a backup plan and is basically a Kentucky guy at this point.  All indications are Velus Jones won't sign with USC. 
  • If they feel Crawford is not coming, Pie Young would appear to be the guy but that was my take because Lorenz didnt talk much about McDoom or Jones other than their status with other teams.
  • Crawford is the domino. 

[Edit - per jack daniels below "Sam Webb thinks McDoom is at the top of Michigan's board with Crawford, but that they won't wait on those two if it meant turning away Young or Jones."]

Lavert Hill

  • Hill has been to UM 5x this season, hasnt been to PSU once (?).  "A matter of time...but how much time?" when he picks Michigan.  Lots of head scratching my analysts why it hasn't happened yet.  No idea when.

Keyshon Camp

  • A flip is "very possible".  Not expecting it this weekend.  Lorenz is close to flipping him in crystal ball to UM.   Reuben Jones has been in his ear constantly about how great atmosphere up here.

2017s

  • Terrance Davis teammate Anthony McFarland is an elite elite elite (did I mention elite?) 5 star running back who will be here this weekend; Georgia leads but obviously one UM wants.  This guy would be the "missing piece" for UM - crazy speed AND vision.
  • DT Fred Hansard continues the pipeline of great DTs out of NJ; Lorenz says NJ has 5 legit DTs in 2017 (4 stars).  Pretty wide open - PSU, OSU, UCLA... UM in mix.
  • LB Drew Singleton - Paramus Catholic pipeline, top 150 LB - UM has a "significant" lead.
  • CB Ambry Thomas out of King.  Most "Jourdan Lewis" type player Lorenz has seen of late - Lorenz loves this kid.  UM in "decent shape" because OSU has already taken 4 2017 DBs.  MSU heavy in mix.

Misc

  • Peters, Bredeson, Mitchell are your 3 main "recruiters" in this class to fellow 2016ers. 
  • Jordan Elliott, Bush Jr, Delance will now be here Dec 11th for official due to playoff games for their HS.  Slight disappointment for staff as obviously being in this environment would be great. as staff wants these 3 2.
  • UM's top 3 DL targets are: Gary, Camp, Elliott.
  • Expects a committment this weekend but just saying that because so many players out there who like UM will be here.  He has no inside info with any names - just a probability thing.

Kingston Davis talk

  • Lorenz still thinks he ends up at UM.  Michigan loves him much more than scouting services and wants him bad.  He is a Harbaugh type back through and through.

alum96

November 24th, 2015 at 3:41 PM ^

High end tackles are harder to get than high end guards.  And more valuable.  See NFL draft - where do tackles get drafted vs guards and centers.

The # is the # - as we all know its a guess.  And Delance is rated in the 90s if that matters that much which is essentially the same as someone in the 70s.  Its not like #32 vs #280.

It's a first world problem.  We have 2 guards already in the class and you have to balance what is on your roster now and will be in future years.   They feel they have a need for a tackle in that last OL spot if they can get one they like.

jbabe

November 24th, 2015 at 4:10 PM ^

Idk how only having 6 more spots would work.. They want 2-3 more d-lineman. 2-3 more in the secondary. 1-2 o-lineman. A WR. Possibly a TE and kicker

Crazy Canuck

November 24th, 2015 at 4:38 PM ^

It has been mentioned in different posts on here lately. Some 5th years won't be back, Reese assumed to commit to Texas and other a few other commits don't have the grades and won't make it in the class. I can't remember exactly which posts, but I'm sure this has been mentioned.

alum96

November 24th, 2015 at 5:47 PM ^

Brian didnt ask about him - it was a Q&A, so he answered questions about specific prospects.

Think Nauta is still favored to GA unless UM makes a serious push or he is worried about richt's future.  Maybe put it in the Caleb Kelly category where he likes UM but he has had a long time favorite and most still think he ends up at long time favorite but there is a chance >0% that doesn't happen.

wolverinebutt

November 24th, 2015 at 5:14 PM ^

I'm hopeful a small shuffle on the OL will produce big results next year.  The runnng game has disappointed me again this year. It must be a combo of the RB's and the OL.  We need a better running game to return to real Michigan football.