Shane holding his own?

Submitted by kawter on

Fogive me if this isn't relevant (as it is a tweet of an opinion of a person who knew of a friend that saw) and oh this is my first post so i get a mulligan if i shank it ..

But according to Gregg Henson the battle is going strong, and looks like Morris is leading

 

https://twitter.com/gregghenson

 

Just got word that Morris is better than Rudock, I am stunned. https://t.co/udj7uc8kko

— Gregg Henson (@GreggHenson) August 9, 2015

 

Just telling you what people WHO ARE THERE are telling me. Feel free not to follow. https://t.co/kFTtCdShel

— Gregg Henson (@GreggHenson) August 10, 2015

 

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ClassOf14

August 10th, 2015 at 3:20 PM ^

I think everyone here agrees that Morris has the higher upside, but I think a lot of people are nervous sending him out there for the first drive against Utah, knowing how important that game could be in terms of building the teams confidence and giving them momentum. I think if Shane and Rudock are somewhat close by the time that game comes around, you start Rudock just because of his experience, and maybe let Shane take over against UNLV or something, in a lower pressure situation, and see how much he's improved from last year. Of course, if Shane is playing significantly better, start him. In that scenario he's earned it.



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albo23

August 10th, 2015 at 3:28 PM ^

I'm gonna support whoever Harbaugh selects because he is the QB whisperer.  However, if Shane goes out there, I will be nervous and biting my nails until he leads a drive and throws a TD simply because of how hard he's been rocked.

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WoodleyIsBeast

August 10th, 2015 at 3:39 PM ^

There is a huge gap between he and Shane.....There is no quarterback battle here. I have it on as good of an authority as you'll hear from a random guy on the internet that won't cite his sources.

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Honk if Ufer M…

August 10th, 2015 at 10:36 PM ^

He was mocking the nature of your assertions not saying he's heard the same thing. Wow.

I too am a guy who sometimes gets inside info from players or other athletes but I understand that I'm remaining anonymous and so are my sources so that it's not going to sound authoritative.

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Clarence Boddicker

August 10th, 2015 at 5:05 PM ^

I'm rooting for Shane--as I've said, he was a student in a class I taught at UM. I thought he was a pretty good kid, self-reflective and smart--and pretty modest, considering the reaction other students had to his presence. There was no sense of BMOC, just a regular kid looking to do well in class and on the field.

People here have built Rudock up to an obvious starter (if not all-Big Ten), but as I recall, he transferred largely because he was beaten out by the non All-Big Ten qb Iowa currently starts. And this was a choice by a coach known for his overly conservative approach. I think Rudock will be solid for us, I just don't think solid--checkdowns every play, the inability to take the top off a defense--will please the masses very much in practice rather than in theory. I also believe that Shane should and will improve by leaps and bounds under the tutelage of the best qb guru in the game. What qb on our roster actually looked better after time in the system working with Borges? Should an assessment of Morris' ability really begin and end with his getting shoved into that tire fire? No.

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Lovemybluebudz

August 10th, 2015 at 3:51 PM ^

We haven't seen Morris play, oh wait two games my bad. Getting thrown into the two games at that. DG played all season including the Ohio state game. Then Morris had his first start, as a true freshman, in a bowl game. Then don't play him again until the teams falling apart around him. Oh he didn't perform, really?! No shit he didn't, but that's all you needed to see because you're so smart. like I said, if the offense performs like it has the last two years rudock isn't going to help. Does he have a special run for your life skill set I don't know about? If we can't run the ball and the OLine is letting people through left and right he's not going to have time to complete a pass. The offense was horrible as a whole. So by that crap ass logic there shouldn't be one person on our offensive unit that is going to be good (maybe cole). None of them saved the day, none of them dominated, so none of them can get better? Sounds dumb to me, what do I know I'm just a fan...wait, so are you. To say that Morris isn't talented just says you're an idiot.

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kawter

August 10th, 2015 at 4:02 PM ^

I couldn't agree more. Throwing a kid in a tire fire and telling him he isn't talented cause he got burned. Doesn't seem that rational.

I'm not sticking up for his ability and he may be a risk but I'd say he hasn't had a fair chance to excel ala Smith analogies.



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mGrowOld

August 10th, 2015 at 3:52 PM ^

HOLY SHIT

I go work on one lousy powerpoint for the past couple of hours and a 186 comment thread erupts over whether Morris looks good in practice in the eyes of Greg Henson's source?

Damn are we starved for actual football-content or what.

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amaizenblue402

August 10th, 2015 at 4:12 PM ^

If Shane is the starter, God help us all.

Edit: I am basing this on what he has shown in games thus far.  He doesn't command the huddle and I don't see confidence with him.  Rudock has the experience and maturity to lead this team.



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turtleboy

August 10th, 2015 at 4:19 PM ^

I just don't get the anti-Shane gang in the comments treating him as guilty until proven innocent. People on the mgoboard just can't wait for him to be replaced, and refuse to consider he could possibly grow into a good quarterback with (finally) good coaching. I'm rooting for him to succeed, but I feel like that sentiment is in the minority around here.

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MWolverine7

August 10th, 2015 at 4:21 PM ^

I agree with your take. If we accept the argument that our prior coaching staff struggled to develop players and the current staff is capable of doing just that then we should be thrilled if Shane is in deed improving.



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ReegsShannon

August 10th, 2015 at 4:37 PM ^

I don't know if it's rooting for him to fail, as much as it is people believe there's just no way he could improve that much in one summer. He has been absurdly awful and has shown almost nothing positive in every stint of in game action he's gotten. It's a long road to average from historically bad.

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grumbler

August 10th, 2015 at 5:15 PM ^

But that's what I don't get.

You say "prople believe there's just no way he could improve that much" when it is clear that what ignorant people can't believe is totally non-relevant.  If he starts, it is because Harbaugh believes he is the better QB.  

If Harbaugh didn't believe Morris "could improve that much" he would already have moved him to another position, so as not to waste time and reps.  People who can't believe Harbaugh is right can GTFO right now.  Why even waste bandwidth talking about people who can't believe Harbaugh can make the right choice?

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drjaws

August 10th, 2015 at 9:46 PM ^

I think you're lying. Or just really gullible when it comes to whoever your anonymous source is.

A) No way Harbaugh would just say "we're screwed." That is a losers attitude, an attitude JH does not accept.

B) Gentry could be a good QB and he isn't there yet so again, no way Harbaugh would say "we're screwed" when all talent hasn't even been evaluated.



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ironman4579

August 11th, 2015 at 2:10 AM ^

I'm sorry, that's ridiculous. First, if anyone within the program believes any player being a starter means Michigan is screwed, they shouldn't be a part of the program, period. Second, I can't take a thing you say seriously after your performances in every Lions thread last season. Lions losing? Salvatorequatro is there to tell you how much they suck. Lions winning? Salvatorequatro disappears like a fart in the wind. Lions losing again? Well goddamn if Salvatorequatro doesn't return from the incorporeal plain to tell you they suck again. You are the worst kind of pessimist. The kind that doesn't know they're a pessimist. You think you're a "realist." If Morris named the starter you'll be here telling us all how fucked we are right up until he throws his first TD, at which point you'll disappear until his first INT. You really are just the worst.

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jaydubya

August 10th, 2015 at 5:09 PM ^

Shane could certainly grow into a good quarterback (and I hope does), especially under Harbaugh's guidance. And we probably don't have enough evidence to say he couldn't eventually be a quality player. But let's be honest - what we DID see last year was concerning. IIRC, the final stat line from '14 was, what, 85 yards, 0 TDs, 5 INTs?

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grumbler

August 10th, 2015 at 5:18 PM ^

Again, that was last year.  Why even worry about stats from the past, when they can't affect the future?  If Harbaugh thinks he's the guy, then it doesn't matter if he threw for zero TDs last year.  If Harbaugh thinks that Rudock isn't the guy, then it doesn't matter that he did throw for 34 TDs the last two years.

What matters os Harbaugh's evaluation of these guys' future, not our evaluation of their past.

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jaydubya

August 10th, 2015 at 9:11 PM ^

Well, a player's past performance should be indicative of his talent level, right? That is how we evaluate players, after all -- past performance is analyzed. So while his stats, specifically, don't matter for the purpose of this season, it's still concerning that he put up those horrid stats.

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