Why is Charles Woodson's jersey not retired?

Submitted by Zarniwoop on July 29th, 2015 at 11:37 AM

If you win the Heisman, you're instantly in the top 3 players ever to play at Michigan (in my opinion).

The only thing I can think of is that he didn't play for 4 years. Didn't Howard leave his Junior year? I can't remember and can't find anything about it, except that he earned his degree after he left.

It also bothers me that 1 isn't retired for Anthony Carter. I understand WHY they don't do that since we've had some other GREAT players that wore number 1 (Derrick Alexander is probably the most underrated Michigan receiver in history - at least in terms of current recogniation). But, this is a distant second to my confusion and dismay over number 2 not being retired.

If someone knows the answer to this, I'd love to hear it.

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kawter

July 29th, 2015 at 11:56 AM ^

Because he was #2

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Yostbound and Down

July 29th, 2015 at 12:03 PM ^

If he really hasn't finished his degree... A. Hope he does whenever he does hang em up and B. That shouldn't matter at all. The guy did great things for Michigan on the field and continues to do them with Mott.

As I said yesterday I don't like the retired numbers in football. Would prefer honoring it and issuing all the retired numbers. Only sports where it feels sorta sacred is hockey and basketball (maybe it's because the banners hang in the rafters)

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WorldwideTJRob

July 29th, 2015 at 12:03 PM ^

Don't know but that new Drake record...fire

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DrMantisToboggan

July 29th, 2015 at 1:03 PM ^

RIP to Meek. Another rapper gunned down young, smh.

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BrotherMouzone

July 29th, 2015 at 1:53 PM ^

Drake was on Degrasi, hes so soft and fake its not even funny. You kids wouldnt know good hip hop/rap if it hit you in the ear drums.

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WorldwideTJRob

July 29th, 2015 at 2:06 PM ^

All I know is he put out 2 diss tracks to zero from Meek...and Meek called out Drake. Who's the real pussy?

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hvsiii

July 29th, 2015 at 2:22 PM ^

the thought of "Diss tracks" making you tough and not having a "diss track" making you a pussy is hilarious. You should teach children this undeniable truth.

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BrotherMouzone

July 29th, 2015 at 2:26 PM ^

Tough equals street cred in my book, which Drake has none of... He would get heated so badly if he went up against any of the guys I listed above. He'd probably start to cry and go back to the suburbs of Canada...

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BrotherMouzone

July 29th, 2015 at 2:25 PM ^

Uummmm, they both fucking suck. Try Big L, Blackstar, early Nas, The Lox, Talib Kwali, Gangstar, Early Outkast, Alchemist, The Roots, Tribe, Wu Tang, early Common, early Jay Z, Binary Star, DJ Premier, Scarface, Beanie Siegal, Brother Ali, Atmosphere, Rhymefest, the list goes on and on. Drake isnt hard, doesnt have intelligent lyrics. Hes fake as they come, soft as they come. He's horrible.

Get on my level and get off my lawn!

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WorldwideTJRob

July 29th, 2015 at 3:28 PM ^

All you did was name drop...and some of the guys you named like Nas, Jay-Z, and Outkast vouch for Drake and real recognize real.

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GoBlueSPH

July 29th, 2015 at 4:51 PM ^

Are you one of those guys that only likes rap made between 1994-2001? I do agree that everyone you listed is great and I do think drake is a pussy

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Moe

July 29th, 2015 at 3:58 PM ^

They both are equal. Who cares.

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CaChPeters

July 29th, 2015 at 12:13 PM ^

I think I heard on WTKA this morning that they will be retiring Woodson's #2 along with re-retiring all of the other numbers during the Ohio game this year.

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SAM love SWORD

July 29th, 2015 at 12:19 PM ^

Personally I feel #1 and #2 shouldn't be retired. I love seeing players get rewarded with the historic numbers for WR and DB. I'd actually prefer only 48 and 98 retired.

Practically they're probably just waiting untill Woodson is retired and can make it to a game to have a deservedly enormous ceremony.

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misterpage

July 29th, 2015 at 12:21 PM ^

Before Rich Rod screwed up the prestige around the #1 jersey I always loved giving it to our stud receiver and I think it would really cool to use the #2 in the same way on defense.

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lilpenny1316

July 29th, 2015 at 12:37 PM ^

Name one receiver who earned it while RR was coach? Braylon could whine all he wants, but no one really earned the #1 and the scholarship that went with it until Jeremy Gallon's senior year. And I don't know the stats to know if he earned it going into his senior year.

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misterpage

July 29th, 2015 at 6:57 PM ^

I was referring to the incident when he was going to give it to a cornerback to wear. After that I agree that no one earned it.

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Wolverine Devotee

July 29th, 2015 at 12:41 PM ^

#1 should be retired for Anthony Carter.

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mjv

July 29th, 2015 at 3:33 PM ^

No it shouldn't. It was great coming to opening game last year and seeing the #1 back on the field.

Seeing players wearing #1, 2, 21, 77, 98 reminds everyone of the great things accomplished by the players in the past and connects the current players to the incredible legacy that is Michigan Football.

Until the numbers came out of retirement, how many people remembered the numbers that had been retired at Michigan outside of Harmon and Ford? But when the numbers are in circulation, those former players are much better recognized.

The Legends numbers program wasn't administered well, but the concept has merit and should have been tweaked, not killed.

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M-Dog

July 29th, 2015 at 12:27 PM ^

We are running out of numbers. We are going to have to go with Hex soon.

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tpilews

July 29th, 2015 at 12:34 PM ^

I'm not a fan of retiring any numbers. I think the players that wore the uniform and were great should be honored in some way, but not retiring numbers. Put them in the University Hall of Fame, build a statue somewhere on the grounds, etc...

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lilpenny1316

July 29th, 2015 at 12:40 PM ^

If he's not hurt in 1991, two things probably happen.

#1 - Desmond does not win the Heisman.
#2 - We have another outside threat to stay in the FSU game and Rose Bowl beyond the first half.

Of all our wide receivers, he had arguably the best pro career.

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WolverineHistorian

July 29th, 2015 at 12:54 PM ^

I wonder what he's up to these days. He seems to be one of those former players who has disappeared off the face of the earth. I felt the same way about Elvis Grbac until Harbaugh had him talk to the team a few months back.

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lilpenny1316

July 29th, 2015 at 1:02 PM ^

But it was closed down about 10 years ago. Here's an article about him from a few years ago:

http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/sports/thetoydepartment/2011/09/catching_up_with_former_ravens.html

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Richard75

July 29th, 2015 at 1:00 PM ^

Sorry, but unless DA could've played defense, we weren't staying in the FSU game.

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Class of 1817

July 29th, 2015 at 1:18 PM ^

Was it our first offensive play...or just our first throw where Buckley laid our playcalling transparent?

So many awful images from that game...so many issues in that game.

Defense being one of them.

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lilpenny1316

July 29th, 2015 at 3:05 PM ^

That game was a turnover fest.

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lilpenny1316

July 29th, 2015 at 3:08 PM ^

In both the FSU game and UW game, we did not have a competent WR opposite Desmond. So teams could focus on him because our other threats were too slow. I'm not saying we win either game. But I am saying that we probably stick the ball in the end zone or hold onto the ball longer with another All-American out there on the field.

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Leonhall

July 29th, 2015 at 12:42 PM ^

I would prefer the #21, #1, #2....not be 'retired.' I just think those numbers need to be in circulation. Honestly, just put the patch on there and keep them in circulation. Put a statue up of Desmond, Charles, and AC....Those numbers are too popular to take out imo.

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the Glove

July 29th, 2015 at 12:46 PM ^

The number 1 jersey should never be retired. Its tradition for the best wide receiver. Desmond Howard's 21 was messing up that tradition the last couple years. Hell Braylon Edwards did the most damage with him wanting to help pick who gets to wear it over the last decade and a half.

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Above and Beyond

July 29th, 2015 at 12:53 PM ^

1 should not be retired, especially considering the last guy who wore it. Too many greats have donned that number, so it would be silly to retire it.

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JNewmn26

July 29th, 2015 at 1:03 PM ^

He didn't get his degree. Michigan stipulates a player graduate before they retire a number.

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antidaily

July 29th, 2015 at 1:08 PM ^

Wait, really?

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JNewmn26

July 29th, 2015 at 1:15 PM ^

Yes. That is their rule.

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Leonhall

July 29th, 2015 at 2:27 PM ^

double post

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Leonhall

July 29th, 2015 at 1:40 PM ^

a school like UM, having a Degree from there really is the first step to receiving anything 'retired.' I expect C-Wood to get his Degree, I just hope they don't retire the #2.

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Romeowolv

July 29th, 2015 at 2:22 PM ^

It absolutely should be. Best defensive player I have ever seen since I started watching.

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Mgoblufosho

July 29th, 2015 at 2:39 PM ^

maybe they want to wait until he is retired?!?

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HarbaughorBust

July 29th, 2015 at 3:39 PM ^

I've asked him about this and he said he doesn't want his number retired. He wants his number representing Michigan on the field every Saturday for eternity. He also legitimately hates David Boston to this day. :)

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ghostofhoke

July 29th, 2015 at 5:55 PM ^

This almost needs the "Cool
Story Bro" moniker. That sounds like him to a tee though. Exactly what I'd expect him to say. #GOAT.

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bronxblue

July 29th, 2015 at 7:41 PM ^

They'll retire it when he stops playing in the NFL and they have some time to really build it up.

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Megatron

July 30th, 2015 at 12:21 AM ^

Yeah football just doesn't have many numbers so a ring of honor is good thing to have. And to make some numbers special like number 1 for WR & DB should get number 2 which no one has gotten to wear it since Charles Woodson.

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