OT Possible NCAA rule reinstatement
February 14th, 2015 at 12:39 PM ^
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February 14th, 2015 at 12:57 PM ^
February 14th, 2015 at 1:08 PM ^
It should be their decision. If they make a mistake, they can always return to school.
From a strictly selfish standpoint, I'd like to see all athletes stay in school. We'd have a pretty good hoops team right about now, but it is their life and should be their choice.
February 14th, 2015 at 1:11 PM ^
February 14th, 2015 at 1:46 PM ^
The NBA doesn't want to invest in a minor-league system like baseball, and so uses the NCAA as one instead. The NFL does the same in a sense, but requires three years of school, so the NCAA is getting value as well, and if kids are in school for at least three years, you can keep up appearances about them being student-athletes.
The NBA needs to change their system. Personally I think the problem could be solved if they added a third round to the draft, allowed D-league players to not count against the NBA roster (they currently do if they're signed to NBA deals), and made it so high-schoolers could be draft no earlier than the third round, high schoolers no earlier than the second, and upper classmen in the first round. This would help limit some risk to the NBA owners, keep the top players in school a little longer, and give a pro option to kids for whom school isn't the right fit that doesn't require them going to Europe for a year.
February 14th, 2015 at 5:16 PM ^
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February 14th, 2015 at 4:58 PM ^
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February 15th, 2015 at 11:11 PM ^
in the additional name recognition/college identification that comes with its players having participated in March Madness.
For example, everyone knew where the players from the 92 Dream Team went to college. But more importantly, fans probably also recognized the names of the 6th men on the also-rans from college. "That guy was good in college."
At the height of the straight-from-high-school days, there were more no-name 6th men on also-rans who were just that.
February 14th, 2015 at 1:12 PM ^
February 14th, 2015 at 1:17 PM ^
if a guy gets drafted in the second round, he can have a long career in europe making decent money. but that's the risk. you better be willing to relocate.
February 14th, 2015 at 1:44 PM ^
If they do this, are they going to call it the "UK Rule" or the "Calipari Rule?"
February 14th, 2015 at 2:42 PM ^
They are able to. Nothing stopping them from pursuing a pro career overseas. And that is what will happen if this rule change actually happened.
February 14th, 2015 at 4:57 PM ^
February 14th, 2015 at 6:12 PM ^
So why if in America a basketball player should have the right to step out of high school and right into a job with a guaranteed contract in the NBA without any sort of college education, yet if you want a job filing the paperwork for that team you need a BA?
Also, what would keep the league from looking at some 6'2" 130 lb 8th grader & drafting him?
February 14th, 2015 at 7:30 PM ^
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February 14th, 2015 at 7:39 PM ^
February 14th, 2015 at 12:38 PM ^
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February 14th, 2015 at 12:39 PM ^
I really hope that doesn't happen.
February 14th, 2015 at 12:43 PM ^
I gotta tell ya, I really wouldn't mind it.
Bring back the freshman teams and play other school's freshman teams like the old days. Except this time, it'd get TV coverage.
February 14th, 2015 at 12:55 PM ^
FWIW I remember going to watch Michigan's last Freshman team back in 72 I think. Campy Russell was on the team (he of Pontiac Central fame - right down the street from where i grew up) and back then the Freshman games with Russell had crowds as big as varsity as EVERYBODY wanted to see him play.
February 14th, 2015 at 1:01 PM ^
February 14th, 2015 at 6:48 PM ^
Freshman team has the incoming recruits and try-outs who don't make the team. Its not 100% incoming scholarship recruits.
February 14th, 2015 at 7:05 PM ^
February 14th, 2015 at 7:56 PM ^
will probably be the first ever.
February 14th, 2015 at 9:56 PM ^
February 14th, 2015 at 6:48 PM ^
Freshman team has the incoming recruits and try-outs who don't make the team. Its not 100% incoming scholarship recruits.
February 14th, 2015 at 12:45 PM ^
I don't think we would have 5 people on the court this year.
February 14th, 2015 at 12:48 PM ^
Great question. What "problem" exactly are they trying to solve here? To me it sounds like something that thecoach of an SEC program of upper classmen would propose immediately after getting his ass kicked by Kentucky.
February 14th, 2015 at 1:44 PM ^
that rule would make kentucky better. all of their studs would now be sophs instead of frosh.
February 14th, 2015 at 3:24 PM ^
The NBA would still draft a lot of the same players after their freshmen years. They know who the big talents are before they enter college. They'd scout the freshmen teams, too.
This rule change would mostly give less time in the college game to star players in both sports.
Maybe it would put a little pressure on the NBA to change their rule. They've already been talking about pushing back the minimum age a year.
February 14th, 2015 at 12:47 PM ^
February 14th, 2015 at 12:51 PM ^
I agree 100% with this. Kids coming for only 1 year is terrible for the schools. There is way too much oversigning to make up for the potential of a kid leaving school and I can't imagine the kids who are one and dones are taking classes too seriously.
February 14th, 2015 at 12:58 PM ^
February 14th, 2015 at 1:02 PM ^
February 14th, 2015 at 1:25 PM ^
how is forcing a kid to stay in college when he doesn't want to be there a good idea? i even think the one and done rule is dumb.
the nba (and nfl) just use the ncaa as a free minor league system. let the pro leagues invest in the 18 year olds who don't want to play school. they could increase roster size to accomodate.
the ncaa will survive without the one and dones (and two and dones for football).
February 14th, 2015 at 12:59 PM ^
February 14th, 2015 at 1:09 PM ^
February 14th, 2015 at 1:07 PM ^
The rule should be you can leave whenever you want.
February 14th, 2015 at 1:53 PM ^
This idea is definitely better than the one and done where you basically have to pretend to go to school for like 2 months. Why even bother? If you aren't really interested in school and are only going to bide your time for a year, let them skip the BS. Can even set up a system like for juniors in the NFL where they can have someone assess where they are likely to be drafted before they make their decision
February 14th, 2015 at 2:45 PM ^
For a blog that usually (and to its credit) comes down on the side of the rights of student-athletes, I'm surprised your comment is so liked. You're asking for kids to sign away their rights to make big money doing what they do best for three entire years. That's like a three-year long LOI, but worse. No way.
If you want to restore the "integrity" of college basketball, let's start sharing the huge amounts of money a little more fairly. That means shifting more weath and power from the parasitic suits to the kids, who often come from underprivileged backgrounds. You propose to do the opposite.
February 14th, 2015 at 3:45 PM ^
A rule like that couldn't come from the NCAA side, it would need to come from the NBA/NFL.
Without getting into how big of a cut the players deserve, I do think the NBA adopting either the MLB model (three years or right out of high school) or the NHL model (drafting rights for a future contract and not requiring an agent to be drafted) would help both the college and pro games. As far as the NFL goes, I'm not sure there's a big problem with their draft rules, although the guys that go early should have scholarships waiting for them if they decide to come back to school later, IMO.
February 14th, 2015 at 3:26 PM ^
It's completely out of the hands of the NCAA.
February 14th, 2015 at 4:35 PM ^
We are talking about people's livelyhoods. I don't believe one NBA team was required to draft anyone out of high school. If they are good enough to get drafted they should be, so much worry about how billionare team owners spend their money. If you don't want to take the risk don't drat them. Would the teams that drafted Kevin Garnett, Kobe Bryant or Lebron do it again? YES. But telling adults they can't earn a living, not because they aren't qualified or talented enough but to protect the owners from themselves seems odd.
February 14th, 2015 at 12:51 PM ^
I think at some point there has to be some major changes to the system. I dont know if this is the answer, but a real minor league system for basketball and football would solve a lot of problems.