MGoPodcast 14.13: The Football Guys Comment Count

BlueBarron November 28th, 2022 at 7:00 AM

3 hours(!!!) and 11 minutes

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1. General Vibes

starts at 1:00

The story looked like it was going to be "Michigan lost this game because Blake Corum and Mike Morris were out and Michigan didn't have the recruiting depth to make up for it." And then Mike Sainristil completely denies a touchdown with a pass break-up and Donovan Edwards cleans up the rest. Ohio State said "make JJ beat us." And then he did. Michigan exposed Ohio State to their 3rd down issues. Ohio State's whole offseason was about saying "last year was a fluke." It wasn't. On 3rd and short, Ohio State is sawft. Michigan has always been behind the meta game vs Ohio State. For the first time in a long time, it feels like Michigan is ahead of Ohio State tactically. Michigan can simulate Ohio State's offense in practice, but can Ohio State simulate Michigan's smash mouth run game? The story of Ohio State last year was they had a bad defensive coordinator and Michigan was able to expose their flaws. This year... they still exposed the Ohio State defense's flaws. 

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2. Offense vs Ohio State

starts at 23:30

Ohio State comes in with a very aggressive up-front defensive approach, so Michigan throws deep to Cornelius Johnson. That same play happened in the Penn State vs Ohio State game. Brian's takes on Cornelius Johnson are preserved. Michigan wasn't able to run their go-to offense, but once they hit the deep balls to Cornelius Johnson and Colston Loveland Ohio State had to drop their safeties. THEN Michigan could run their offense. What is a "catchable" ball? JJ had some great decision making, especially on some scrambles and on his touchdown run when Ohio State wasn't set. Olu is Brian's favorite Center, even more than senior Molk. Once again, just a little bit of QB run was able to confuse the defense. Cornelius Johnson's route running was frustrating for much of the year, all is forgiven after this game. They did a lot to set up that RB pass play to Loveland. Colston Loveland is ready now. 

3. Defense vs Ohio State

starts at 1:03:08

Alex's take on the Ohio State offense from a month ago was on point. Once Ohio State gets to 3rd and short, they are horrible. They don't have a consistent run game that can get 3-ish yards, you can't build a run game off of getting either 12 yards or no yards. There were a lot of plays where Michigan couldn't get to Stroud, but CJ Stroud didn't have anything. If CJ Stroud runs at all it might change Michigan's defensive approach but Stroud won't even scramble. The coverage in this game was incredible. Michigan finally gets turnover luck in The Game and it didn't even really matter. There was maybe one bust? Last year Sainristil caught the flea flicker from Cade, this year he went god mode on defense, so next year he'll be the kicker. Will Johnson has grown up over the course of the season. Ohio State had their heads down in the 4th quarter and Michigan knew "we are going to win." The headbutt was probably the end. McGregor had a great TFL to eventually force a punt. God bless Michael Barrett, he didn't have a huge role in this defense but he sticks it out and he had to learn a whole new role. His progress has been outstanding. There is probably some truth to the idea that these players are completely bought into the program. Michigan is now Stanford with more talent. Rod Moore is not boring but in a good way! 

4. Hot Takes and Game Theory

starts at 1:43:38

Takes hotter than Ryan Day's hot seat. Brian's hot takes voice has transcended. The biggest bummer from this game might be that if Blake Corum puts up Donovan Edwards' numbers he would win the Heisman. Ryan Day is a coward and a turtle. Several of Ohio State's punts were probably a "go for it" situation. He is a super conservative coach on 4th down decision making, some of these decisions might be from the fact that Ohio State has never really needed to play in dogfights or from playing down. Stroud was begging to go for it on 4th down after the 1st and 35, they still punted. Ohio State had a fake punt that they could've gotten a huge gain from, but they botched it. MSU and OSU's hate for Michigan finally backfired this season. Ohio State seemed like they weren't expecting Michigan to fight back like they did. Michigan's clock management before halftime was probably the right move. That was a gutsy 4th and 1 call, all things considered. Would a punt have been better than Moody attempting a 57 yard field goal? Ryan Day turtle'd and Michigan gets it right, is he on the hot seat? If you play offensive line at Michigan, people will know your name. Michigan is recruiting heavily in Ohio now, what happens when you beat Ohio State? Do any of Michigan's coaches leave after this season? 

5. Around the Big Ten With Jamie Mac

starts at 2:43:24

Jamie gives us his personal takes on The Game. Purdue wins the Big Ten West, somehow. Indiana lost their quarterback on the opening drive. Purdue is a much better matchup for Michigan than Illinois. This year is similar to last year where Michigan dodged a hot Wisconsin team (and Illinois is the new Wisconsin). Northwestern goes 0-11 in North America and 1-0 in Europe. Why is Spencer Petras playing football?? Nebraska wins an improbably(?) game against Iowa. The sins of the Iowa offense caught up with them, Nebraska has a bad defense but the Hawkeyes put up less than 300 yards. Michigan State rushes for 25 yards and fails to gain bowl eligibility - they get rushing rutger'd! Michael Penix is... 5th in the Heisman trophy odds??? Michigan State might be in for another long year next year. Minnesota gets their 3rd win over Wisconsin in five years. Wisconsin gets Luke Fickell as their new head coach! 

MUSIC:

  • "New Day Tonight"--Michael Rault
  • "Three Day Loser"--Joy of Cooking
  • "Tek It"--Cafune
  • "King"--Zayde Wølf
  • “Across 110th Street”

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Comments

LSA Superstar

November 28th, 2022 at 10:33 AM ^

“I see it happening.  I see the tight end breaking across.  And I see him open.  And I see the arc of the ball.  And I just say out loud ‘oh no.’

And then Mike Sainristil.  This nothing recruit, out of nowhere Massachusetts, just makes it up.  

So we have a different story.”

I know that feel.

Blue Balls Afire

November 28th, 2022 at 10:45 AM ^

I've had to take a day to decompress and gather my thoughts--I couldn't believe what I just saw.  Was hoping for a win but preparing for a loss, and a freakin' revelation unfolded.  Random thoughts from a random fan (me):

We have the best Offensive Line, the best Center, and the best O-line coach in the country right now.  We can win a championship with that.

No surprise OSU was gonna force Michigan to beat them with the pass, but, my gosh, Michigan did and made plays they missed all year. 

Players stepped up when they had to, made plays when they had to, heroes emerged as Harbaugh said.  Could not be prouder of this team.

Michigan's discipline and patience on both side of the ball, their mental toughness, their refusal to panic . . . just breathtaking.  

Ohio's secondary is horrible.  Sure they were selling out against the run, but still, the missed tackles, the poor coverage, the bad angles, the DPI's . . . what in the world?!?!

I woke up this morning and Donovan Edwards is running for another long touchdown.  

MaizeAndBlueWahoo

November 28th, 2022 at 10:51 AM ^

IMO, yes, kicking the 57 yard FG was the right call.  I mean, Jake Moody.  You MIGHT pin OSU deep with a punt and you might not.  And they still had Marvin Harrison - Harbaugh had no way of knowing Day would mostly ignore Harrison from then on.  OSU could quite easily gain back all that field position and then some, so I say if you're gonna give them the ball back, at least try to get some points out of it.  But kicking the FG was doing what OSU should've done: ask an elite player to help you win the game.

DetroitDan

November 28th, 2022 at 9:42 PM ^

Yup.  And it was a whimsical touch by Harbaugh.  As important as this game was, Harbaugh still went out of his way to give an enormous vote of confidence to Jake Moody.  Even though the FG missed (barely), the coach had seen enough over the years to trust him in this critical spot.  If I'm an NFL general manager, that speaks volumes about Moody's ability and reliability.

ptmac

November 28th, 2022 at 10:55 AM ^

My hot take is that Corum wouldn’t have put up Edwards’ numbers, because he doesn’t have breakaway speed like that. It actually worked out well to have Edwards as the home run threat without any safeties back.

lhglrkwg

November 28th, 2022 at 11:02 AM ^

Im excited to work my way through this marathon podcast this week, but I cannot wait for Brians recap today as he proclaims our 20 years in the wilderness have finally ended

Blueinsconsin

November 28th, 2022 at 11:26 AM ^

You will continue to beat Ohio State because Michigan's players are 1) team players and bought into the system/program 2) well coached and disciplined and 3) have smarter coaches than the rest of the conference. Jesse Minter is just smarter/better than every offensive coordinator he's gone up against and he makes games look easy to coach. 

dragonchild

November 28th, 2022 at 1:57 PM ^

It says Tressel and Meyer played some bad and/or overrated Michigan teams.

I fucking dare Ohio State to bring back that abuse-enabling con man Urban Meyer because he wiped the floor with a Brady Hoke team that lost to effin' Rutgers.

Ryan Day has his flaws but as OSU's HC never went up against a Michigan that was botching a desperate blitz away from losing to Akron.

Please, OSU, be stupid enough to fire Day.

HooverStreetRage

November 28th, 2022 at 1:43 PM ^

About 1:20 in to the podcast, Brian speculates that might have been the best weather ever for a UM/OSU game.

My one trip to the Horseshoe was the 1986 game (the Harbaugh guaranteed win) which we won 26-24.

It was absolutely beautiful weather that day, even warmer than this year's game (I checked the weather records). Didn't help the Buckeyes then, didn't help them now.

TESOE

November 28th, 2022 at 3:57 PM ^

This was way too short. These guys are overpaid.

Seth is, in fact, the nice one BTW... sorry Schadenfreude dude.

I really like Alex and Dave's input, it fights boomerisms, and Seth and Brian both listen and learn a bit from them as well, which is refreshing.  Craig Ross, were he there, might even listen.

What a team effort. So glad to see Harbaugh letting the freshmen play, and pushing JJ to be the starter - that was tough, but in retrospect.. so glad.

Olu is indeed lightening in a bottle, as is Okie, who will be coming back next year. Sainristil would benefit from another year IMO, unless he dominates in the games to come like he did this week.  He, along with Barrett are the epitome of Michigan men. The team!

Beat Purdue!!