OT Sha’Carri Richardson (fastest woman alive) Suspended from Olympics for Weed
in 2021 USA is about to suspend their best hope at a gold medal for a little puff puff pass that is legal in like 42 states now.
https://www.cbssports.com/olympics/news/u-s-sprinter-shacarri-richardso…
No. The problem isn't that someone broke the rules knowingly. It's that the rule exists in the first place. I see where you're coming from, but you need to take it one step further.
By your logic, Rosa Parks should've been arrested and jailed. She knew it was against the rules to sit in the front of the bus, but did it anyway. And before you say "false equivalence," it isn't. Cannabis legalization is a Civil Rights issue, and should be treated as such.
Competing in the Olympics isn't a right.
Many countries disagree with you and they are not about to change their minds anytime soon. They would not give a crap about US civil rights.
No one said competing in the Olympics is a right. I said the marijuana discussion is a Civil Rights issue.
Also, I don't care if countries agree or disagree with me. They're objectively wrong. The other thing is this: this is a USA Track and Field decision, not an international one.
You state with such certainty that it is a fact that smoking weed is a civil rights issue. I'm curious to understand your logic for this.
It is a Civil Rights issue. Given the racist policies of the War on Drugs, the overwhelmingly black prison population incarcerated for marijuana possession and related offenses, and the fact that marijuana has not yet been legalized on a federal level for ALL, thereby denying the rights of millions.
It’s also putting an undue strain on government resources on both the enforcement and penal systems, hijacking funding that would be much more effectively used elsewhere. That then takes a toll on public well-being and resource availability, keeping people from being able to access opportunities that different spending priorities would afford them. It’s an out and out disaster for Americans.
This is not a US Track and Field decision. They test based on world anti doping agency standard, which make sense since she is trying to qualify for a world event. Why would US risk sending her to event if she is likely to get tested positive there?
Well 2 weeks makes a huge difference in someone’s ability to clean their system of marijuana. So it is US track and Field decision using international standards.
The US doesn’t get to just ignore international rules... so no, it’s still not a US Track and Field decision.
But... this isn’t a USA Track and Field decision. It’s literally a rule in place by the WADA... the WORLD Anti-Doping Agency. It’s an INTERNATIONAL rule for all athletes for participation in the Olympics, as the policy has been adopted by the IOC.
Rosa Parks wasnt sitting in the front of the bus. She was already in the colored section and the driver wanted her to farther back. Look it up
You’re right. Misspoke. She was in the front row of the section and the driver told her to give up her seat for a white guy. Bad rules are bad and don’t deserve to be enforced. Doesn’t matter what row she was in.
True. As much as I think marijuana should be taken off the banned substance list, she took a risk and lost.
Yikes. This sucks and is really dumb.
Can't imagine the asinine comments happening around the internet from the "folks".
"Serves her rot, she knews the rules".
Not sure why you're being negged. Those are the exact type of smooth-brain idiot comments I've seen on other social media sites.
10.1.1B nut is getting negged because it’s mocking a valid point of view. People are upset she’s been busted for violating a dumb rule while simultaneously admitting she broke the rule. you can’t knowingly violate a rule then get pissed when you get in trouble for it.
Similar to every media member going to bat for Reggie Bush, fab 5, etc...
Because dumb rules shouldn't actually be rules? Thats why they're, you know, dumb rules.
The arbitrary way this country treats weed is a joke. Marijuana is still a Sch. I drug according to the federal government. Along with Heroin, LSD, Ecstasy, etc...
Makes zero sense. It was part of the war on drugs during the Nixon administration with almost zero research or evidence to support placing it in the top tier of scheduled drugs. How it has been allowed to stand for the past 60 years is embarrassing.
I mean, it is a mind/mood altering substance. I get the point that the real argument is whether it should be regulated or criminalized, but to say that you can't comprehend why it is treated this way is a bit obtuse.
In order to be a sch I drug it must be determined to be highly addictive and subject to abuse and have no FDA approved medical purpose.
being a “mind/mood” altering drug is not part of the equation. Sch I drugs are deemed to be among the most dangerous and need of the most restrictions. To put marijuana in that group is in my opinion ridiculous.
I can’t comprehend how anyone would group it with the other drugs in that category. If that makes me obtuse, as you say, I am ok with that.
My mistake, you understand. You just don't care. And that's absolutely fine.
It's high potential for abuse, by the way, which may or may not be the same thing as highly addictive. But I'm quibbling at this point, mostly because I don't care. This issue is so highly politicized and people's views so entrenched that proponents "just can't even" carry on a conversation without bringing their emotional investment in the topic to the party. And this thread is a perfect example.
This was a story about a potential Olympic athlete who broke a rule proscribing marijuana use and competing in a high-level competition at the same time. Is the discussion focused around whether the rule was imposed arbitrarily, or even whether it was based on evidence, unnecessarily punitive, etc.? Nope. There were some general takes that "this rule is dumb," but that's about it. Instead, what do we get? Yep, recycled rage about the injustices associated with criminalized marijuana possession.
Let's put this silliness to the test. For all of you keyboard warriors, I want a show of hands. Who here actually suffered legal punishment beyond the occasional civil fine? Better yet, who here has gone to take care of the family of someone who got busted for manufacturing/delivering and had to serve or is serving a long sentence for getting caught with significant quantities? I'll wait.
For the vast majority of people likely to be posting on these boards, their moral rage stems from nothing more than not being able to have a good time by lighting up when you want, where you want, with what you want. Yet their online rage is no different than that of gun-rights advocates. You can have my pot when you take it from my cold dead hands. You all are the same.
For the record, it's been a week and I see no hands. Well done lads and lasses.
There's an interesting article in the NYTimes ($) today that brings what I strongly suspect to be proponents' long-held, closely-guarded, actual desire into the light of day. Here's the money quote:
But while we can now begin to glimpse an end to the drug war, it is much harder to envision what the drug peace will look like. How will we fold these powerful substances into our society and our lives so as to minimize their risks and use them most constructively?
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That conversation begins with the recognition that humans like to change consciousness and that cultures have been using psychoactive plants and fungi to do so for as long as there have been cultures. Something about us is just not satisfied with ordinary consciousness and seeks to transcend it in various ways....
Take whatever position you want on what it looks like, but at least be as honest as this writer. You just want to get high. So let's agree that it's time to drop the moral outrage and relying on the suffering of others to justify your (presumed) dissatisfaction with your ordinary consciousness.
I never liked the 55mph speed limit — think you could go back and dispute some of my old tickets because it was a dumb rule?
Do your part to change things or “quit yer bitchin’ “ IMO
1) Chances are you never got ticketed for going 57 MPH. And if by some small chance you were ticketed for going 57 MPH you could probably keep your drivers license. An Olympian banned for something that is legal in most state (and counting) may not get another chance to be an Olympian. Dumb.
2) I did and as a result enjoy legal marijuana.
The better analogy would be that she was given permission to drive on GM's closed test track, so long as she had no marijuana in her system. She didn't comply with the rules to be on the track and so GM said thanks for coming by.
She's not facing criminal, or even civil penalties here... If there is a sympathetic point, its in the timing of all of this, because the minimal punishment (a three-month time out) happens to fall exactly at the only time she can qualify. The rule is being applied consistently, and although you can feel it's a dumb rule, no one was complaining about it before this particular athlete broke it. I recall the Michael Phelps situation a while back, vaguely...
I got a ticket for 26 in a 25 the day after I turned 16.
Stupid.
But dumb rules still are rules. If you want to complain that dumb rules shouldn’t be rules, by all means do so. Most would agree with you.
But breaking a dumb rule is still breaking a rule. Breaking a rule has consequences. Complaining that you or someone else is facing consequences for breaking a rule is silly.
I think all you "rulez is rulez" folks are missing the point: Marijuana shouldn't be something that disqualifies an Olympic athlete. Full stop. Of course, if she violated a rule there are consequences.
Shouldn’t, but is. She knew that and did it anyway. So what are we really talking about here?
You thinking it shouldn’t be a rule is fine, but many people throughout the world think it should be. Opinions will differ depending on what someone’s specific culture has deemed “acceptable” in today’s society.
Regardless, it’s an international organization that sets the rules and policy for their own events. They are allowed to do that. It is up to the participants to follow that policy or face the consequences. Its their event. What we think is “just” doesn’t really play a part here.
i just got whiplash.
“ha, ha, ‘rules are rules’ people are dumb! but rules have consequences!”
She broke a dumb rule and will pay the consequences.
Anybody who thinks its a good thing for the U.S. or for the Games for athletes to get banned from over dumb rules like this needs to have their head examined.
I really don’t see anyone here saying that it is a good thing she got hit by a dumb rule….they are saying IT IS A RULE and she got caught breaking it - case closed.
If she disagreed with this rule she could:
- Give up he dream to be an Olympic Athlete and get blazed whenever she wants.
- Lobby to change the rules with other competitors and organizations in the sport but until that time…
- Ignore the rule and just learn to curtail her usage to avoid testing positive when tests are scheduled — like I suspect a large portion of competitors do - aka don’t be dumb.
We lost a year of Mitch McGary playing for Michigan by his getting caught by a dumb rule. In his case it was less “stupidity” and more not understanding that even inactive members of the NCAA tourney travel party could be tested (and that a positive NCAA test had a mandatory 1-year suspension unlike school administered tests.)
It takes some real guts to call an athlete stupid because she took an edible after her mom died.
Keep yelling from your armchair, bro.
There's no "case closed" because there is no "case" here. Richardson got caught breaking their dumb rule and won't be allowed to compete. That's understood.
My point is that removing an athlete like Sha'Carri Richardson from competing in the Olypmics over smoking pot is a BAD outcome. Its not just bad for Ms. Richardson. It's bad for the U.S. It's bad for the Olympic Games. It's bad for everyone. It's not something that should happen.
When you say "case closed" what you really means "I'm totally fine with outcome, because making sure athletes following dumb rules is the only thing that merits consideration here."
Or perhaps holding star athletes at the VERY highest level, to the standard to which they AGREED in order to participate...would be prudent and should be the way her violation is viewed until the rules actually change?
I had no idea weed makes you faster.
But really, that’s fucked up. Interesting chain of decisions too after they insisted the move only Simone Biles can do stay at a low difficulty starting score.
Yesterday they banned afro-swim caps...forgetting the the Olympics is a WORLD event.
Maybe it was also in the Burrito???
I'm sure a burrito was had
Good. We all know one minute you're smoking weed and then before you know it you're doing the naughty business in an alley for a dimebag. Then your family life falls apart and you beat your kids and might be addicted for life. She should do something more safe like the alcohol or prescription meds her doctor will give her. No one ever messes their life up using the societally accepted drugs.
...and then comes the madness.
Wow, they were so right back then.
"...and that's when the whores come in."
Did she get to the starting line and forget why she was there?
She got to where she was and forgot it why it was a starting line. What are lines? There is only momentum and the finish. But finishing is never done until you begin.
No, she missed the race entirely then showed up twenty minutes later with two armloads of junk food.
What a monster.
I don't get what so many posters here don't get. If the IOC dictates that you can't smoke weed, and they run the Olympics, it seems pretty cut and dried that you shouldn't smoke weed. I mean, I guess I feel bad for her and all, but cumong. You gotta know the rules. It seems extremely likely that Olympians have smoked weed, even while at the Olympics. But you never know when there is going to be a drop. Change the rules? Sure. But until they change? Don't do it.
Rules Shmules! That's what I always say! Nothing wrong with a little Devil's Arugula!
What I don't get is why they are testing for weed in the first place.