Gene Smith vs Warde on bitching when you get screwed by refs
As many of you no doubt recall, after the refs took the 2016 OSU game from us, Warde was silent and many here have still not forgiven him for that.
Crooked OSU AD Gene Smith is going off about the officiating last night.
Does this change how you view Warde’s lack of response in 2016 or not?
December 29th, 2019 at 11:32 AM ^
How does Gene Smith have a job still? That guy has been the definition of corruption for years
December 29th, 2019 at 11:48 AM ^
I think I have been naive most of my life, but it is clear to me now that corruption is truly the American way. Playing by the rules may be morally correct and make you feel good, but the cheaters win at virtually every level in our society, and the more organized and systematic the cheating, the better.
December 29th, 2019 at 2:49 PM ^
Correct.
"Cheaters always win, winners always cheat."
December 29th, 2019 at 12:06 PM ^
Gene Smith has a job for the following:
1. inherited the leash that supposedly NFL Commish used on Gene Upshaw. Has it right around Emmert's neck.
2. Has Steele Dossier on every member of NCAA Executive Committee.
3. Keeps OSU with minor infractions and ease of transfers, when other schools would be severely penalized and xfers would not happen or be extremely painful.
December 29th, 2019 at 12:03 PM ^
The problem is in slow-motion everything looks like a catch. Any contact with the hands around the football will look like a catch because they pause it for seconds and it looks, to our real-time brains, like a catch.
Play the replay at regular speed and it’s pretty obvious it wasn’t secured long enough to be a catch.
December 29th, 2019 at 1:50 PM ^
I am a high school sports photographer. You’d be surprised how many botched plays have been made into a heroic moment through my lens!
December 29th, 2019 at 12:13 PM ^
Warde needs to grow a pair and stand up for this program. Allowing Delaney to walk all over Michigan that day changed the trajectory of the program. Staying silent enabled the same behavior in 2017. Of course he needs to stand up, he is making a lot of money due to football.
December 29th, 2019 at 12:44 PM ^
Well...I'd say the trajectory of the program changed when M hired Rich Rod. Also, Manuel wasn't the a.d. when realignment happened. Dave Brandon was. So nothing you said there makes any sense.
December 29th, 2019 at 12:36 PM ^
I believe the ref on the field thought the pass was incomplete, but because of replay he allowed the play to continue. The problem with that is there has to be evidence to overturn the call. So he either stops the play (like what happened to Michigan earlier this season where a scoop and score was called back) and maybe gets proven wrong on replay. Or he lets the play continue, despite his best judgment, and replay now has to overturn his call. The ruling on the field isn't what the ref would rule except for replay.
What they need is for the ref to say I ruled it incomplete but allowed the continuation. So the overturn is now for the incompletion instead of the TD. It changes the burden of proof to where the call would have been made while still allowing the continuation.
December 29th, 2019 at 12:39 PM ^
No..I want our AD to speak up when its CLEAR...nothing changes unless that happens...Now Gene Smith is a Dirty Dirty AD we ALL know that and theres nothing we can do about it, its the Culture at OSU winning is EVERYTHING now matter what no matter how
December 29th, 2019 at 12:46 PM ^
How many times does the 2016 OSU game get brought up here? The references are absolutely constant. You people are truly sick. Truly disturbed.
December 29th, 2019 at 12:55 PM ^
It's the refs fault osu blew a 16 point lead and let clemson drive 94 yards in 4 plays...
December 29th, 2019 at 1:20 PM ^
About 1/100000th as 8-0 and how many days since UofM beat OSU.
I see it's not as comfortable for you guys when the refs dicks are in the opponents asses, you're much more comfortable with them in your asses.
December 29th, 2019 at 1:03 PM ^
Warde’s situation was different because he would have to make tough comments about a B1G crew, which his program would inevitably play a game with them again.
Smith had less to lose because it was an SEC crew. I think we’d all would have loved to have seen something out of Warde after that loss, but comparing the two, one is slightly less risky.
December 29th, 2019 at 1:05 PM ^
No, Gene Smith is a liar and a sycophant.
Wardecshould have said something in 2016.
December 29th, 2019 at 1:55 PM ^
Gene Smith is repulsive.
December 29th, 2019 at 2:06 PM ^
Are you saying that Gene Smith's reaction will have more of an impact than Warde's? Maybe they will overturn the call because of Gene Smith's reaction.
December 29th, 2019 at 3:03 PM ^
No. I'd prefer him to complain behind closed doors and if that doesn't work, then go public.
December 29th, 2019 at 3:25 PM ^
The officials ruled correctly, but I hate how some of the rules are interpreted.
I hate the rules for a catch. If you can haul in a pass, plant your foot and dive into the end-zone, breaking the plane, then the ball comes out when it hits the turf; it should be a touchdown.
Same thing on the fumble. You haul it in with both hands, shift the ball into your body, the defender rakes it out; it's a catch and a fumble.
It was a travesty when officials doubled down to defend a TERRIBLE call against Calvin Johnson, and it led to all of this "process of the catch" inanity.
Targeting needs to have degrees. You make a football play, and the offensive player lowers his head, too, versus trying to hurt someone, you shouldn't miss the rest of the game. I get protecting players and agree, but there has to be some balance. It's quite often a big play-maker taken out of the game and it can completely change things.
Replay needs to be limited. Reviews should be limited to 30 seconds of viewing video and only involve full speed replays. It takes too long and still doesn't always get it right.
December 29th, 2019 at 3:36 PM ^
The real problem for Gene is that OSU needed to score touchdowns when they dominated early. This would all be moot if they had. They pissed the game away.
December 29th, 2019 at 3:53 PM ^
That first field goal drive made me think I was watching Michigan. Drive down field, get inside the 15, stupid dump off behind the line on 1st down, stupid run to the stacked side on second down, 3rd and long, field goal. Not how you win a big game.
December 29th, 2019 at 3:51 PM ^
If NCAA/ESPN/$EC wanted to rig the game it would have been way better for them if OSU won. Nobody would rig this game for Clemson. They are the least respected good team in the history of football because of the shit ACC schedule. The ratings would have to be higher for LSU-OSU.
Also, sorry Gene, but I must have missed the part where the Clemson fan ref smacked Etienne on the ass.
December 29th, 2019 at 4:17 PM ^
Yes it does and I still think Warde should have ran his mouth Michigan has endless money fines mean squat
December 29th, 2019 at 8:56 PM ^
May this be higher than any point that clown university reaches ever again. They all deserve misery.