Fall Roster Overanalysis 2013!
The phonebooks are here! They have different numbers listed next to the players. And new numbers for new players. Things are really going to start happening to us now.
To the bat-table!
QUARTERBACK |
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Player | 2009 | 2010 | 2011 | 2012 | Spring 2013 | Fall 2013 | 09 to 10 | 10 to 11 | 11 to 12 | 12 to 13 | |||||||||
Devin Gardner | 210 | 205 | 206 | 210 | 210 | -5 | 1 | 4 | |||||||||||
Russell Bellomy | 189 | 201 | 213 | 215 | 12 | 14 | |||||||||||||
RUNNING BACK |
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Player | 2009 | 2010 | 2011 | 2012 | Spring 2013 | Fall 2013 | 09 to 10 | 10 to 11 | 11 to 12 | 12 to 13 | |||||||||
Fitzgerald Toussaint | 185 | 200 | 195 | 203 | 200 | 200 | 15 | -5 | 8 | -3 | |||||||||
Thomas Rawls | 219 | 217 | 217 | 217 | -2 | 0 | |||||||||||||
Justice Hayes | 176 | 183 | 190 | 192 | 7 | 9 | |||||||||||||
Drake Johnson | 203 | 212 | 213 | 10 | |||||||||||||||
Sione Houma | 221 | 229 | 231 | 10 | |||||||||||||||
Joe Kerridge | 238 | ||||||||||||||||||
De'Veon Smith | 224 | ||||||||||||||||||
Derrick Green | 240 | ||||||||||||||||||
Wyatt Shallman | 237 | ||||||||||||||||||
WIDE RECEIVER |
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Player | 2009 | 2010 | 2011 | 2012 | Spring 2013 | Fall 2013 | 09 to 10 | 10 to 11 | 11 to 12 | 12 to 13 | |||||||||
Jeremy Gallon | 165 | 180 | 185 | 186 | 187 | 184 | 15 | 5 | 1 | -2 | |||||||||
Drew Dileo | 172 | 172 | 180 | 177 | 180 | 0 | 8 | 0 | |||||||||||
Amara Darboh | 218 | 213 | 212 | -6 | |||||||||||||||
Jehu Chesson | 183 | 193 | 196 | 13 | |||||||||||||||
Dennis Norfleet | 170 | 168 | 169 | -1 | |||||||||||||||
Jaron Dukes | 190 | ||||||||||||||||||
Csont'e York | 180 | ||||||||||||||||||
Da'Mario Jones | 192 | ||||||||||||||||||
TIGHT END |
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Player | 2009 | 2010 | 2011 | 2012 | Spring 2013 | Fall 2013 | 09 to 10 | 10 to 11 | 11 to 12 | 12 to 13 | |||||||||
Jordan Paskorz | 246 | ? | 251 | 255 | ? | 9 | |||||||||||||
AJ Williams | 282 | 265 | 265 | -17 | |||||||||||||||
Devin Funchess | 225 | 228 | 235 | 10 | |||||||||||||||
Jake Butt | 231 | 237 | 0 | ||||||||||||||||
Khalid Hill | 258 | ||||||||||||||||||
OFFENSIVE LINE |
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Player | 2009 | 2010 | 2011 | 2012 | Spring 2013 | Fall 2013 | 09 to 10 | 10 to 11 | 11 to 12 | 12 to 13 | |||||||||
Michael Schofield | 268 | 293 | 299 | 302 | 303 | 304 | 25 | 6 | 3 | 2 | |||||||||
Taylor Lewan | 268 | 294 | 302 | 308 | 308 | 315 | 26 | 8 | 6 | 7 | |||||||||
Chris Bryant | 341 | 320 | 325 | 316 | -21 | -4 | |||||||||||||
Jack Miller | 263 | 287 | 291 | 290 | 24 | 3 | |||||||||||||
Blake Bars | 282 | 284 | 291 | 9 | |||||||||||||||
Ben Braden | 299 | 314 | 318 | 19 | |||||||||||||||
Kyle Kalis | 292 | 297 | 302 | 10 | |||||||||||||||
Erik Magnuson | 290 | 286 | 285 | -5 | |||||||||||||||
Kyle Bosch | 307 | 302 | |||||||||||||||||
Logan Tuley-Tillman | 285 | 300 | |||||||||||||||||
David Dawson | 297 | ||||||||||||||||||
Graham Glasgow | 303 | ||||||||||||||||||
Dan Samuelson | 283 | ||||||||||||||||||
Patrick Kugler | 287 | ||||||||||||||||||
Chris Fox | 338 | ||||||||||||||||||
DEFENSIVE LINE |
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Player | 2009 | 2010 | 2011 | 2012 | Spring 2013 | Fall 2013 | 09 to 10 | 10 to 11 | 11 to 12 | 12 to 13 | |||||||||
Quinton Washington | 325 | 315 | 302 | 299 | 305 | 301 | -10 | -13 | -3 | 2 | |||||||||
Jibreel Black | 265 | 260 | 276 | 276 | 278 | N/A | -5 | 16 | 2 | ||||||||||
Richard Ash | 320 | 301 | 301 | 316 | 314 | N/A | -19 | 0 | 13 | ||||||||||
Frank Clark | 228 | 260 | 277 | 277 | 32 | 17 | |||||||||||||
Keith Heitzman | 251 | ? | 277 | 280 | ? | 26 | |||||||||||||
Matt Godin | 270 | 277 | 280 | 10 | |||||||||||||||
Willie Henry | 302 | 306 | 306 | 4 | |||||||||||||||
Ondre Pipkins | 337 | 308 | 315 | -22 | |||||||||||||||
Tom Strobel | 250 | 262 | 265 | 15 | |||||||||||||||
Chris Wormley | 268 | 290 | 289 | 21 | |||||||||||||||
Mario Ojemudia | 223 | 244 | 250 | 27 | |||||||||||||||
Taco Charlton | 265 | 270 | |||||||||||||||||
Maurice Hurst | 270 | ||||||||||||||||||
LINEBACKER |
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Player | 2009 | 2010 | 2011 | 2012 | Spring 2013 | Fall 2013 | 09 to 10 | 10 to 11 | 11 to 12 | 12 to 13 | |||||||||
Cameron Gordon | 208 | 207 | 222 | 235 | 233 | 237 | -1 | 15 | 13 | 2 | |||||||||
Mike Jones | 203 | 208 | 224 | ? | 223 | 5 | 16 | ? | -1 | ||||||||||
Jake Ryan | 225 | 230 | 242 | 241 | 240 | N/A | 5 | 12 | -2 | ||||||||||
Brennen Beyer | 225 | 252 | 254 | 250 | 27 | -2 | |||||||||||||
Desmond Morgan | 220 | 230 | 227 | 228 | 10 | -2 | |||||||||||||
Allen Gant | 196 | 203 | 212 | 16 | |||||||||||||||
Royce Jenkins-Stone | 206 | 215 | 225 | 19 | |||||||||||||||
James Ross | 225 | 223 | 220 | -5 | |||||||||||||||
Joe Bolden | 230 | 222 | 225 | -5 | |||||||||||||||
Ben Gedeon | 236 | ||||||||||||||||||
Mike McCray | 237 | ||||||||||||||||||
CORNERBACK |
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Player | 2009 | 2010 | 2011 | 2012 | Spring 2013 | Fall 2013 | 09 to 10 | 10 to 11 | 11 to 12 | 12 to 13 | |||||||||
Courtney Avery | 174 | 173 | 173 | 174 | 175 | -1 | 0 | 2 | |||||||||||
Raymon Taylor | 169 | 183 | 186 | 183 | 14 | 0 | |||||||||||||
Delonte Hollowell | 164 | 177 | 175 | 180 | 13 | 3 | |||||||||||||
Blake Countess | 176 | 182 | 181 | 182 | 6 | 0 | |||||||||||||
Terry Richardson | 154 | 162 | 167 | 13 | |||||||||||||||
Ross Douglas | 176 | 176 | |||||||||||||||||
Jourdan Lewis | 170 | ||||||||||||||||||
Channing Stribling | 171 | ||||||||||||||||||
Reon Dawson | 170 | ||||||||||||||||||
SAFETY |
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Player | 2009 | 2010 | 2011 | 2012 | Spring 2013 | Fall 2013 | 09 to 10 | 10 to 11 | 11 to 12 | 12 to 13 | |||||||||
Josh Furman | 208 | 208 | 204 | 197 | 202 | 0 | -4 | -2 | |||||||||||
Thomas Gordon | 205 | 205 | 208 | 209 | 208 | 208 | 0 | 3 | 1 | -1 | |||||||||
Jarrod Wilson | 190 | 196 | 200 | 10 | |||||||||||||||
Jeremy Clark | 191 | 201 | 205 | 14 | |||||||||||||||
Dymonte Thomas | 187 | 190 | 0 | ||||||||||||||||
Delano Hill | 205 |
REMEMBER THE NUMBER ONE RULE OF FALL ROSTER OVERANALYSIS: All weight gain or loss is good.
Now, ITEMS OF INTEREST!
Man we recruited some skinny corners. Terry Richardson is still scrambling to get up to 170 pounds, and while he's five pounds heavier than he was when he was a tiny tiny person in the spring game, you should take Terry Richardson and stretch him out a half-foot taller to get an idea of how thick Channing Stribling and Reon Dawson are. Jourdan Lewis isn't quite as extreme, but he has an inch or two on Richardson and just three pounds. Here are your redshirts, gentlemen.
On the other hand, Delano Hill comes in at the same 205 Thomas Gordon did and will probably stay within three pounds of that number for the duration of his career. Let's stop recruiting anyone from Cass Tech who's not a safety, but continue recruiting safeties.
Chris Fox is alarmingly big. 338 is not so good. Knee surgery is obviously a downer for fitness levels, but I'd be surprised if he was ready to compete for a starting job next year. He'll probably need two to round into shape.
Meanwhile in injured linemen who get too heavy, Chris Bryant is down about ten pounds from spring, which will help him see the field. Kalis and Braden are on the slow and steady gain track that generally indicates you're physically ready to see the field; would like to see Magnuson get into the 300 pound range; not sure what to make of LTT's additional 15 pounds from spring. Good or bad?
Just going by weights, if a freshman has to see the field it'll be Bosch or Kugler.
Derrick Green is 240. Would we like him to be 230 or 235 maybe? We'll have to wait until he shows something on the field to know. Shallman's actually three pounds lighter; Smith comes in at 224. The rest of the tailbacks are almost pound for pound where they were in spring.
Chesson continues to add weight. Up three from spring to 196; gain slowing down but still going. No other receivers changed significantly.
Funchess put some pounds on. Funchess is now up to 235, vaguely plausible as a blocker. Butt's already bigger, and Khalid Hill is a load at 258. That seems too big to me, but I did compare the guy to Lutzenkirchen, who was exactly that weight. Meanwhile AJ Williams is static at 265 after playing at 282 as a freshman.
The defensive line is growing slowly. No big move from Black, who adds two pounds to just pip Frank Clark in the race to not be the smallest starter on the defensive line. Eveyone else adds a few pounds; Ojemudia is up to 250 after starting last year at 223; Maurice Hurst comes in way more svelte than he was as a recruit at 270. They'll be putting weight on instead of taking it off.
Meanwhile, Pipkins is moving back up after dropping nearly 30 pounds last year.
James Ross lost weight. Merph. Desmond Morgan did too, but Morgan brings the heat on tackles and could stand to be a little more athletic. Ross had a bit of trouble getting big backs down last year and lost five pounds. In fact the only significant weight gains in the LB corps came from Allen Gant, who moved down from safety and is a very small SAM at 212, and Royce Jenkins-Stone, who added about 20 pounds from last year to actually surpass Ross.
Man we brought in some big linebackers. If Ben Gedeon is really 6'3", 236, and running 4.6 40s while lifting a billion pounds, Joe Bolden is going to have a fierce challenge as early as this year. After all the kerfuffle about McCray's weight, he checks in at a SAM-like 6'4", 237.
This has been Fall Roster Overanalysis. I hope you enjoyed it.
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August 7th, 2013 at 11:36 AM ^
I would like to see evidence that I said that.
For your reference, the two best college rushers of ALL TIME were Ron Dayne and Ricky Williams. Ron Dayne played a bit heavier than Green (240-250). Ricky Williams played a bit lighter than Green (around 230), and is an inch shorter.
Green's build is similar to Dayne, Williams, Ray Rice, Cedric Benson...he's very big, but definitely not too big. That said, I'd probably like to see him at 235 but only IF that's the most effective speed/power weight for him.
Now, if he keeps getting bigger...I don't know where you put a dude who's 5-11, 260. Elvis Dumervil, perhaps?
Ron Dayne and Ricky Williams weren't even the two best rushers to come out of their respective schools. Both played a long time and gained a ton of yards, but a lot of guys have been significantly better players.
Was that you can be Derrick Green's size and be a hell of a back. Besides, Ricky WIlliams averaged 6.2 YPC. That's pretty damn good.
I just don't like either of those players and refused to tolerate them being labelled, even inadvertently, as the best in the history of college football.
If I can't be an incredibly picky douche on the internet, where am I supposed to do it?
August 7th, 2013 at 11:15 AM ^
Purple is at least a little bit right. Ricky Williams and Ron Dayne might not be the best RBs to every play college football, but they are the most productive rushers of all time.
But whether or not you like them (I HATED Ron Dayne, even though he struggled against Michigan), you have to admit their greatness. It wasn't just longevity. They were Heisman winners and extraordinarily successful; Ricky Williams was so good an NFL team gave-up its entire draft for him. Ron Dayne rushed for 71 (!) TDs and averaged 5.8 ypc.
Are they the best ever? That's definitely debatable. Are they the most productive rushers ever? Yes. That is a fact.
And no, you can't be an incredibly picky douche anywhere. Stop it.
...the weight listed on MGoBlue.com is already OBE.
Gained even more weight.. Up to 243!! Yessir
— jake butt (@bigjakeyB_1) August 6, 2013
I don't know the MGoBlog rules on weight gain/loss that ISN'T in the fall roster. I have to assume this is horrible news.
Holy crap.
After going through camp I'll bet Green settles in between 230-235 range. He'll be fine.
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