Fall Roster Overanalysis 2013! Comment Count

Brian

The phonebooks are here! They have different numbers listed next to the players. And new numbers for new players. Things are really going to start happening to us now.

To the bat-table!

QUARTERBACK

Player 2009 2010 2011 2012 Spring 2013 Fall 2013 09 to 10 10 to 11 11 to 12 12 to 13
Devin Gardner   210 205 206 210 210   -5 1 4
Russell Bellomy     189 201 213 215     12 14

RUNNING BACK

Player 2009 2010 2011 2012 Spring 2013 Fall 2013 09 to 10 10 to 11 11 to 12 12 to 13
Fitzgerald Toussaint 185 200 195 203 200 200 15 -5 8 -3
Thomas Rawls     219 217 217 217     -2 0
Justice Hayes     176 183 190 192     7 9
Drake Johnson       203 212 213       10
Sione Houma       221 229 231       10
Joe Kerridge           238        
De'Veon Smith           224        
Derrick Green           240        
Wyatt Shallman           237        

WIDE RECEIVER

Player 2009 2010 2011 2012 Spring 2013 Fall 2013 09 to 10 10 to 11 11 to 12 12 to 13
Jeremy Gallon 165 180 185 186 187 184 15 5 1 -2
Drew Dileo   172 172 180 177 180   0 8 0
Amara Darboh       218 213 212       -6
Jehu Chesson       183 193 196       13
Dennis Norfleet       170 168 169       -1
Jaron Dukes           190        
Csont'e York           180        
Da'Mario Jones           192        

TIGHT END

Player 2009 2010 2011 2012 Spring 2013 Fall 2013 09 to 10 10 to 11 11 to 12 12 to 13
Jordan Paskorz     246 ? 251 255     ? 9
AJ Williams       282 265 265       -17
Devin Funchess       225 228 235       10
Jake Butt         231 237       0
Khalid Hill           258        

OFFENSIVE LINE

Player 2009 2010 2011 2012 Spring 2013 Fall 2013 09 to 10 10 to 11 11 to 12 12 to 13
Michael Schofield 268 293 299 302 303 304 25 6 3 2
Taylor Lewan 268 294 302 308 308 315 26 8 6 7
Chris Bryant     341 320 325 316     -21 -4
Jack Miller     263 287 291 290     24 3
Blake Bars       282 284 291       9
Ben Braden       299 314 318       19
Kyle Kalis       292 297 302       10
Erik Magnuson       290 286 285       -5
Kyle Bosch         307 302        
Logan Tuley-Tillman         285 300        
David Dawson           297        
Graham Glasgow           303        
Dan Samuelson           283        
Patrick Kugler           287        
Chris Fox           338        

DEFENSIVE LINE

Player 2009 2010 2011 2012 Spring 2013 Fall 2013 09 to 10 10 to 11 11 to 12 12 to 13
Quinton Washington 325 315 302 299 305 301 -10 -13 -3 2
Jibreel Black   265 260 276 276 278 N/A -5 16 2
Richard Ash   320 301 301 316 314 N/A -19 0 13
Frank Clark     228 260 277 277     32 17
Keith Heitzman     251 ? 277 280     ? 26
Matt Godin       270 277 280       10
Willie Henry       302 306 306       4
Ondre Pipkins       337 308 315       -22
Tom Strobel       250 262 265       15
Chris Wormley       268 290 289       21
Mario Ojemudia       223 244 250       27
Taco Charlton         265 270        
Maurice Hurst           270        

LINEBACKER

Player 2009 2010 2011 2012 Spring 2013 Fall 2013 09 to 10 10 to 11 11 to 12 12 to 13
Cameron Gordon 208 207 222 235 233 237 -1 15 13 2
Mike Jones 203 208 224 ? 223   5 16 ? -1
Jake Ryan   225 230 242 241 240 N/A 5 12 -2
Brennen Beyer     225 252 254 250     27 -2
Desmond Morgan     220 230 227 228     10 -2
Allen Gant       196 203 212       16
Royce Jenkins-Stone       206 215 225       19
James Ross       225 223 220       -5
Joe Bolden       230 222 225       -5
Ben Gedeon           236        
Mike McCray           237        

CORNERBACK

Player 2009 2010 2011 2012 Spring 2013 Fall 2013 09 to 10 10 to 11 11 to 12 12 to 13
Courtney Avery   174 173 173 174 175   -1 0 2
Raymon Taylor     169 183 186 183     14 0
Delonte Hollowell     164 177 175 180     13 3
Blake Countess     176 182 181 182     6 0
Terry Richardson       154 162 167       13
Ross Douglas         176 176        
Jourdan Lewis           170        
Channing Stribling           171        
Reon Dawson           170        

SAFETY

Player 2009 2010 2011 2012 Spring 2013 Fall 2013 09 to 10 10 to 11 11 to 12 12 to 13
Josh Furman   208 208 204 197 202   0 -4 -2
Thomas Gordon 205 205 208 209 208 208 0 3 1 -1
Jarrod Wilson       190 196 200       10
Jeremy Clark       191 201 205       14
Dymonte Thomas         187 190       0
Delano Hill           205        

REMEMBER THE NUMBER ONE RULE OF FALL ROSTER OVERANALYSIS: All weight gain or loss is good.

Now, ITEMS OF INTEREST!

Man we recruited some skinny corners. Terry Richardson is still scrambling to get up to 170 pounds, and while he's five pounds heavier than he was when he was a tiny tiny person in the spring game, you should take Terry Richardson and stretch him out a half-foot taller to get an idea of how thick Channing Stribling and Reon Dawson are. Jourdan Lewis isn't quite as extreme, but he has an inch or two on Richardson and just three pounds. Here are your redshirts, gentlemen.

On the other hand, Delano Hill comes in at the same 205 Thomas Gordon did and will probably stay within three pounds of that number for the duration of his career. Let's stop recruiting anyone from Cass Tech who's not a safety, but continue recruiting safeties.

Chris Fox is alarmingly big. 338 is not so good. Knee surgery is obviously a downer for fitness levels, but I'd be surprised if he was ready to compete for a starting job next year. He'll probably need two to round into shape.

Meanwhile in injured linemen who get too heavy, Chris Bryant is down about ten pounds from spring, which will help him see the field. Kalis and Braden are on the slow and steady gain track that generally indicates you're physically ready to see the field; would like to see Magnuson get into the 300 pound range; not sure what to make of LTT's additional 15 pounds from spring. Good or bad?

Just going by weights, if a freshman has to see the field it'll be Bosch or Kugler.

Derrick Green is 240. Would we like him to be 230 or 235 maybe? We'll have to wait until he shows something on the field to know. Shallman's actually three pounds lighter; Smith comes in at 224. The rest of the tailbacks are almost pound for pound where they were in spring.

Chesson continues to add weight. Up three from spring to 196; gain slowing down but still going. No other receivers changed significantly.

Funchess put some pounds on. Funchess is now up to 235, vaguely plausible as a blocker. Butt's already bigger, and Khalid Hill is a load at 258. That seems too big to me, but I did compare the guy to Lutzenkirchen, who was exactly that weight. Meanwhile AJ Williams is static at 265 after playing at 282 as a freshman.

The defensive line is growing slowly. No big move from Black, who adds two pounds to just pip Frank Clark in the race to not be the smallest starter on the defensive line. Eveyone else adds a few pounds; Ojemudia is up to 250 after starting last year at 223; Maurice Hurst comes in way more svelte than he was as a recruit at 270. They'll be putting weight on instead of taking it off.

Meanwhile, Pipkins is moving back up after dropping nearly 30 pounds last year.

James Ross lost weight. Merph. Desmond Morgan did too, but Morgan brings the heat on tackles and could stand to be a little more athletic. Ross had a bit of trouble getting big backs down last year and lost five pounds. In fact the only significant weight gains in the LB corps came from Allen Gant, who moved down from safety and is a very small SAM at 212, and Royce Jenkins-Stone, who added about 20 pounds from last year to actually surpass Ross.

Man we brought in some big linebackers. If Ben Gedeon is really 6'3", 236, and running 4.6 40s while lifting a billion pounds, Joe Bolden is going to have a fierce challenge as early as this year. After all the kerfuffle about McCray's weight, he checks in at a SAM-like 6'4", 237.

This has been Fall Roster Overanalysis. I hope you enjoyed it.

Comments

Ron Utah

August 6th, 2013 at 3:54 PM ^

For your reference, the two best college rushers of ALL TIME were Ron Dayne and Ricky Williams.  Ron Dayne played a bit heavier than Green (240-250).  Ricky Williams played a bit lighter than Green (around 230), and is an inch shorter.

Green's build is similar to Dayne, Williams, Ray Rice, Cedric Benson...he's very big, but definitely not too big.  That said, I'd probably like to see him at 235 but only IF that's the most effective speed/power weight for him.

Now, if he keeps getting bigger...I don't know where you put a dude who's 5-11, 260.  Elvis Dumervil, perhaps? 

PurpleStuff

August 6th, 2013 at 4:24 PM ^

I just don't like either of those players and refused to tolerate them being labelled, even inadvertently, as the best in the history of college football. 

If I can't be an incredibly picky douche on the internet, where am I supposed to do it?

Ron Utah

August 7th, 2013 at 11:15 AM ^

Purple is at least a little bit right.  Ricky Williams and Ron Dayne might not be the best RBs to every play college football, but they are the most productive rushers of all time.

But whether or not you like them (I HATED Ron Dayne, even though he struggled against Michigan), you have to admit their greatness.  It wasn't just longevity.  They were Heisman winners and extraordinarily successful; Ricky Williams was so good an NFL team gave-up its entire draft for him.  Ron Dayne rushed for 71 (!) TDs and averaged 5.8 ypc.

Are they the best ever?  That's definitely debatable.  Are they the most productive rushers ever?  Yes.  That is a fact.

And no, you can't be an incredibly picky douche anywhere.  Stop it.