NCAA/OSU Update. Almost laughable if it weren't so sad
So, as we all know, SI sent all kinds of reporters to Columbus, talked to tons of people, interviewed the on the record and some (Ellis) without revealing identities.
Well, the NCAA looked at all that and said... nah, we wont do that.
The NCAA never spoke with, and never ATTEMPTED TO SPEAK WITH:
The tattoo parlor owner
The car dealer guy, Kniffin
Talbott - golf course/memorabilia dealer
The article brings up parallels on how the NCAA never actually finds anything. for the Fab5 it was the FBI, SMU - a player, USC - the marketing guy who never go paid.
I was hopeful that OSU would get their due... now I just hope they get ANY punishment.
August 23rd, 2011 at 5:16 PM ^
Don't forget about the Open Records Act case currently pending before the Ohio Supreme Court. You never know what sordid emails might emerge from that case.
I've been following the situation closely and will let everyone know when we have any new developments. It could be many months before we get any resolution though.
August 23rd, 2011 at 5:27 PM ^
daam shame
i think the media needs to press the matter more on the emmert / gee relationship
August 23rd, 2011 at 5:58 PM ^
OSU has been punished enough, they lost their coach and star QB all because Tressel searched in vain for somebody to partner with, over a few silly gifts.
Set the Buckeyes free, love your enemy. Hate the sin not the sinner.Plus it's not much of a sin, unreported gifts, big deal. They just need to change the rules and grandfather Tressel and the Bucks in, then it ain't even illegal.
Quit hating on players getting busted breaking dumb rules. You can be damn skippy sure, if it were the lawmakers receiving the gifts, it would all be legalized. It's like getting caught in a sex lie, it's not really a lie, just a way to save face.
Michigan can beat the Bucks regardless of what the NCAA does, so don't get your panties in a bunch worrying about it. Don't worry be Hokey
August 23rd, 2011 at 6:53 PM ^
The big sin is the cover-up, not just free crap the players got.
Ohio State has acted throughout this process more like its own attorney, whereas the way NCAA enforcement is set up, the school must act as police.
The athletic department's actions are approaching SMU levels, ie they are working to purposefully stymie the NCAA investigation into dealings the school obviously had knowledge of and helped to cover up over a long period of time. They are literally making a mockery of the NCAA regulatory system. A sex lie is a terrible analogy for that -- OSU's actions over the course of at least a decade likely changed the landscape of the Big Ten and college football, giving the school recruiting wins it might otherwise not have gotten, and keeping seniors who might otherwise have fled to the pro's. That they took it so far is evidence that the system itself sucks, but living in a different competitive level than its competition is not justified by that.
There are only two reasonable responses the NCAA has to this. Either 1: use the system it has to bring massive fallout upon Columbus -- death penalty 100% on the table if there's even a bare whiff of OSU holding something back or not giving every effort to unearth violations; or 2: Scrap the system and go to a non-self-regulatory justice system which gives the NCAA an army of investigatory/compliance staff who look for crap at every school.
August 23rd, 2011 at 7:05 PM ^
I don't find either of your suggestions reasonable. Seriously, giving a school the death penalty over Tatgate, isn't very reasonable. Even you suggest the crime is minor and the grave problem is the cover-up. If the NCAA doesn't have these ridiculous rules, OSU doesn't need to embark on a cover-up.
August 23rd, 2011 at 7:28 PM ^
Spoken like a true convict.
August 23rd, 2011 at 8:24 PM ^
His suggestions are worth reading and considering.
Someone should recategorize his post and give it the credit it is due.
August 23rd, 2011 at 6:31 PM ^
When the Clarret allegations were dropped by the NCAA
OSU not only
hired an infractions committee member as AD and
employed a lawyer who served on the NCAA advisory committee
It also had an OSU grad as Assistant Director of Enforcement for the NCAA. Although this NCAA found the BB team guilty of multiple violations, it “forgot” to file about half of the proposed punishments.
Now, the OSU alum--who had been director of enforcement—during the “forgotten” filing of prior BB violations--- is associate director of amateurism certification at the NCAA Eligibility Center (which no doubt heard about the Sarniak-Pryor relationship)
In addition,
OSU not only has an AD but also an OSU alum lawyer (for Tressel) who served on the NCAA infractions committee as well as an Associate AD on the NCAA advisory committee.
Beyond this, OSU has a president who was a mentor for and lived with the current NCAA President. The two worked together at Colorado, the alma mater of the current NCAA infractions committee chair (Halloran). This infractions committee chair serves on the board of an energy company, as did the OSU President until recently.
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/stephen-webb/5/1b8/7b3
http://www.ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect/public/NCAA/Enforcement/People/Committee+on+Infractions
http://www.ohiocitizen.org/campaigns/coal/gee.html
August 23rd, 2011 at 6:38 PM ^
or are an investigative reporter. Impressive listing of these arcane relationships complete with links!
Seriously, how do you do it?
August 23rd, 2011 at 6:55 PM ^
In fact, they make no mention at all of their responses to the Clarret allegations in the summary report that found violations among the BB team and Troy Smith.
It's a small wonder that Congress--around the time of the Clarret investigations-- once had hearings abou the NCAA and objected to the lack of transparency about their infractions investigations.
How are the schools, who are ruled by the NCAA, to judge whether the investigations are thorough and fair?
August 23rd, 2011 at 7:22 PM ^
Unfortunately money > integrity for the NCAA....
August 23rd, 2011 at 8:27 PM ^
but not entirely unexpected. If I am the Pac 12 and USC, I would be Emmert with some questions.
August 23rd, 2011 at 9:00 PM ^
nothing came.
[shrugs shoulders]
[moves on with life]
August 23rd, 2011 at 9:31 PM ^
Bruce Hooley has the most salient view and he pulls no punches. I really admire his work. He seems to be out ahead of the issues with a very cynical perspective, that I tend to agree with.
August 23rd, 2011 at 10:17 PM ^
That said, it's very interesting the kind of wake of hate he left behind at both Brown U. and Vanderbilt before coming to OSU.
August 23rd, 2011 at 10:18 PM ^