No Ross? Kind of thought he would be the guy in the 100
Yeah I always thought Ross was considered the better prospect. I also expected to see Richardson high on that list just based on his offers- like at least in the top 50, but he's MIA
Yeah, there were defiantly some differences from what I was expecting. I imagine these will change after the summer camps a bit as well.
TRich is seen quite differently by the recruiting sites. He's the #10 CB for Scout, #3 for 247 and who knows where on Rivals. Btw, 247 has him at #31 overall.
Part of Rivals' ratings involves NFL potential. Barry Every stated that Royce Jenkins-Stone had higher potential than Ross, based simply on the fact that he's a couple inches taller and should end up being the bigger of the two. You don't see many 6' linebackers in the NFL (there are some, mind you), but 6'2" is a more ideal size.
I strongly disagree with Every's assessment
Every dag-nab year we all come back to this...
Over 1 million kids play high school football in this country. Therefore, the top 100 seniors makes up approximately the top 0.04% of all senior high school players.
This means Rivals is attempting to tell you which football players are in the 99.96th percentile. Which in turns means that you (and everyone else who is confused/irritated/shocked) have essentially posed the question: "What? Ross didn't score a 43 on the MCAT?" or "What? Ross didn't score a 179 on the LSAT?" or "What? Ross didn't score a 2390 on the SAT?"
The granularity at that level of analysis is so fine that it is insane to try to give so much of your lifeblood to determining the credibility of whether or not a player belongs in the 99.92nd percentile versus the 99.96th percentile.
From what has been told on these blogs, Ross was rated the #2 ILB in the nation and RJS the #6. Is there really that much difference between those two position rankings? I'm guessing that over a period of 100 different evaluations they would jump each other 100 times. We've got 4 damn good backers going Blue. Rejoice, and ignore finely-granulated rankings.
I totally see the essence of your post:
Rejoice/Royce Jenkins. There has to be a pun in there.
At 72. I guess those poor 7 on 7 performances hurt his stock.
The F?
Very weird top 100
Very strange indeed. Here are some that should be of some interest to us:
#19 Gunner Kiel
#34 Erik Magnuson
#37 Devin Fuller
#41 Yuri Wright
#45 Jordan Simmons
#48 Ifeadi Odenigbo
#61 Sev'on Pittman
#74 DJ Foster
#86 Adolphus Washington
#88 Greg McMullen
#93 Dwayne Stanford
Also Vice Biegel checked in at #95, which was interesting to see.
I was very surprised to see Odenigbo @ 48 and no Wormley on the list...
I think Chris Wormley is a very good prospect and will be in the top 250. I think as fans we tend to overrate players that say that they are a lean to their schools. The same thing happened with Ricardo Miller. Early reports were very promising and we were all excited that he was a Michigan lock. When the actual reports came out, it was very disappointing. He might have been underrated in a sense because he played at AA Huron who did not have a very good QB for his senior season. Either way I think he will be an important players for us and the same goes for Wormley.
Ricardo Miller was WAYYYYY overrated by Michigan fans. It wasn't just because he played for Ann Arbor Huron. He just wasn't/isn't that athletic. There's a reason he's playing H-back now and that the slow-footed Jeremy Jackson beat him out for playing time as a freshman.
I hope it wasn't just because of that because he actually played for Ann Arbor Pioneer =)
Touche.
Because you're only 34 on the list.
Not for long.
Somebody's goin' down.
It would be nice to get an elite OL from CA like yourself.
Sorry. I'll only go to a school that promises me cars and tattoos.
Scout, 247 and Rivals differ big time right now.
I think Rivals is trying to differentiate themselves from 247sports. Rivals mods even went as far to say that they decided to release their list later because some services were stealing their evaluations.
They are so full of themselves
"Michigan, 10th on the list for states producing NFL talent, is led by Detroit Cass Tech linebacker Royce Jenkins-Stone, the only player in the 100 from his state in a down year."
I know Rivals is traditionally sour on Midwest talent. But this is the first time I've heard of the 2011 crop as being a "down year" for the State of Michigan. Thoughts?
Down year in Michigan? The talent seems infinitely more superior than last year.
Infinitely more.
The "trite sports cliches" thread is here:
http://mgoblog.com/mgoboard/ot-most-annoying-modern-day-media-cliches-t…
Probably general shenanegins.
Sure. Rivals sucks.
My thoughts are that they really don't know what they're talking about right now.
i was under the impression that this year's class was considered a bumper crop by most recruiting experts.
Even the rivals experts was saying that the talent in the midwest this year is the best they have seen in a long time. They were talking about how Brady Hoke walked into the perfect situation because he wouldn't really need to go outside his "backyard" to land a very good class.
This top 100 list seems like a complete 180 from what they were saying earlier in the year. This could be just their careless attitude towards the midwest and covering recruits in the midwest.
I'm not surprised they'd make an idiotic assumption such as this... I'm a little surprised RJS was the only one in the Top 100, but I probably shouldn't be considering that Rivals hates midwest kids.
It's considered an up year because Michigan has a lot of high-ranked recruits. But now that Rivals has redone the rankings and determined that most of the instate recruits aren't high-ranked anymore, it isn't a good year, at least according to Rivals.
I will be laughing very hard if the Rivals 250 comes out tomorrow and Ross is #101, Richardson is #102, and O'Brien is #103.
Let's see how this plays out before we jump to conclusions about the in-state talent level.
If they are all #101-103, why would Rivals say this is a down year in state?
Have the coaches cooled down on his recruitment? haven't heard about him in a while
I was looking at the rivals chat and someone asked for the initial of the guy who is ranked 101. The analysts said that the initial of the 101st player is PJ.
Let the speculation begin.
It's probably either Peter Jinkens...
...or P.J. Williams.
I would second Jinkens
Blew my mind. Well Rivals, you go ahead and keep telling people that. We'll go ahead and quietly collect that "down" talent and go to town in coming years.
I think they are talking more in terms of top teir, near 5 star talent because there is normally a couple in the top 80 or so. But it is definitely one of the deeper years I can think of
I think they are talking more in terms of top teir, near 5 star talent because there is normally a couple in the top 80 or so. But it is definitely one of the deeper years I can think of
"Michigan, 10th on the list for states producing NFL talent, is led by Detroit Cass Tech linebacker Royce Jenkins-Stone, the only player in the 100 from his state in a down year."
link: http://footballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1219920
Surprised this year is a "down" year for the state with RJS, Ross, O'Brien, Burbridge, T-Rich, and others being somewhat on the national radar. Complete opposite to the front page posts saying the state is on an upswing after being down for a few years...
Edit: Two minutes too slow. I shouldn't re-read posts for grammar errors multiple times.
It's not necessarily a down year just because the top guy in Michigan is #87. There could be three other guys in the top 250.
Very interesting. Not only are a lot of our commits not on there but a lot of guys we think are Michigan leans (Wormely, Diamond, etc) are not on there. Maybe Hoke isn't dominating recruiting quite like we thought, I don't know.
You are coming close to committing Hoke-era heresy. Hoke and G-Mat are the best recruiters ever. The correct response is Rivals sux.
Well considering that Rivals seems to be the outlier, I would say it's more likely a problem with Rivals than it is with Hoke and Mattison. It's not like there are serious red flags when people watch these guy's film.
Perhaps this is true, but I think it's been fairly well shown that Rivals doesn't follow the Midwest very well. It's the only region without a specific analyst. Saying that MI talent is down this year kind of gives that away.
I'm shocked that wormley isn't on there and mildly surprised that Diamond isn't on there as well. I'm still confused on why Ross isn't on there.