Recruiting Implications?
After our loss to South Carolina and the wins of a majority of opposing teams we are in recruitng battles with (Bama, Georgia, OSU, PSU...Etc), I started to think how this season effected our recruiting for our current and upcoming targets. Recruiting is a weird game in which wins and losses can affect a teams chances with a recruit or maybe not. In our case, the way we lost games this year and those who we lost to, are the ways that we hurt ourselves with said targets. As of now, I see us missing on some key recruits in this cycle and hurting us more than we expected in the upcoming 2019 cycle. But again who knows, maybe this last season didn't hurt us as much as we expected, and we can put it together and sign a Top 10 class in 2019, and also still land our remaining targets in this cycle. So my question is, how do you all feel this season effected our chances in recruting? And do you think we still manage to put together the harrolded 2019 class we are all expecting for next year or not?
January 2nd, 2018 at 9:41 PM ^
January 2nd, 2018 at 11:22 PM ^
Regardless of the ranking, there is nowhere near the amount of surefire impact players of the past 2 years. As this class stands right now, it's not impressive.
January 2nd, 2018 at 9:55 PM ^
Early signing day bonus: get recruits locked in before you tank your bowl game!
January 2nd, 2018 at 11:36 PM ^
January 2nd, 2018 at 9:56 PM ^
The bowl result itself doesn't matter really for recruiting. But the bowl loss will fuel one outcome-- there will be an emerging media theme over the next 8 months along the lines of "The Harbaugh experiment is not working out like Michigan hoped". People can disagree with that position, but it will start to bubble up rightly or wrongly or as maintstream perception. I really don't know if those sorts of narratives impact recruiting much. Probably makes it a little bit harder to say you are building something special, but that becomes a harder argument to make as you move into year 4 anyway with recruits who will be signing up for years 5 to 9.
Correlation does not equal causation, but I also do wonder about the extent to which swapping out Wheatley/Fisch for Hamilton/Frey (and perhaps Tuioti for Dudek) relates to the dip in recruiting this year. But perhaps it is just randomness. Guess we'll see where we are at once the new staff shakes out.
January 2nd, 2018 at 10:13 PM ^
January 2nd, 2018 at 10:18 PM ^
very very true. I hate to re-hatch this up but it was noted that Najee really liked Wheatley and once it was realized he was leaving, najee was just a dream. In other words, you are correct in that an elite high school RB wants an elite and relatable RB coach, especially since we aren't bama.
January 3rd, 2018 at 10:44 AM ^
January 2nd, 2018 at 10:00 PM ^
Recruits crave coaching stability more than anything.
Harbaugh making it clear in his presser that he is not going to the NFL when many people thought he was just about ready to bail, was more important for recruiting than winning the Outback bowl.
January 3rd, 2018 at 2:01 AM ^
The rumors other coaches tell these recruits that Jim will be heading to the NFL probably has an effect. May be after a couple more years of Jim being our coach and winning more games will diminish that lie other coaches are telling. If this recruiting class is our low point than we are doing well. Hopefully a few more wins next season and an offense that can actually score points will help out the 2019 class.
January 3rd, 2018 at 8:20 AM ^
January 2nd, 2018 at 10:08 PM ^
January 3rd, 2018 at 3:25 PM ^
Or on the flip side the 2013, 2014 or 2015 classes ...
Everyone who follows college football know that. Including the recruits
January 2nd, 2018 at 10:08 PM ^
January 2nd, 2018 at 11:23 PM ^
January 3rd, 2018 at 2:08 PM ^
January 3rd, 2018 at 3:11 PM ^
this made me ctfu but on a serious note i would guess it's his potential with that cannon he's got. and although you're right he's not all too quick at a 4.7 40, he is pretty athletic from what one can inspect from his tape.
January 2nd, 2018 at 10:29 PM ^
why go to a school that does not have a winning program. why go to a school that does.
1. playing time
2 nfl
3. good school
young kids really look at #2. they all think they can make it to nfl. not many do.
does our record help us. not really except that if they come. they will play.and not sit the bench.
January 2nd, 2018 at 11:13 PM ^
January 2nd, 2018 at 11:21 PM ^
January 3rd, 2018 at 12:10 AM ^
January 3rd, 2018 at 7:49 AM ^
January 3rd, 2018 at 8:35 AM ^
actually help recruiting. I'm very suspicious Drevno isn't a good recruiter and partially explains why we've missed on a lot of top OL prospects. Michigan will need to find the best OL coach/recruiter they can get after the dust settles with these changes.
January 3rd, 2018 at 10:18 AM ^
Overstated a bit for emphasis:
- The importance of UofM's 'world class' academics is way overrated. Maybe even a detriment to getting many of the 4 & 5 star athletes whose main interrest in college is as a pathway to the NFL.
- A key reason, and maybe the main draw, for many athletes coming to Michigan is it's Michigan. That might not always be best.
- Maybe we need the kids who want to go to the NFL more than we do the kids who want to go to Michigan. Maybe they have a harder edge, are tougher, will work harder in the weight room, be more dedicated to being successful on the football field, etc.
- 'Recruiting' should be a non-negotiable performance requirement in any job description for a coach at UofM. If it's not, then the HC is a problem. If it is and the HC isn't demanding it be fulfilled, the HC is a problem.
- Why is Partridge so important? Why is a 'great recruiter'? Is it because of his ability to 'relate' to high schoolers? Is it his connections in New England? Who is recruiting Ohio for UofM and building the relationships with HS coaches and schools in that state?
- Why doesn't UofM seem to see pipelines from Ohio and the Midwest being a key to long-term, sustainable success? Are the rivalries between Uof M and MSU/OSU more important to kids from Ohio and Michigan than to players from other states?
January 3rd, 2018 at 3:13 PM ^
Kids want to compete for National Championships..... and then get a shot at the NFL.
meyer continues to get top ranked QB's to commit and look at the last 4 he sent to the NFL. One is working in media, two are trying to be WRs in the NFL and the 4th is 6/11 passing in two seasons with an interception.....
Yet they still go, to play football, not to play school, classes is pointless.
January 3rd, 2018 at 3:19 PM ^
No impact on recruiting. Everyone knows we had a team built on first and second year players except the hater "fans." They aren't the largest base of fans, just the loudest.
Even Ekiyor when he decommitted said losses have zero to do with it. Michigan is young and we'll be fine
January 3rd, 2018 at 4:08 PM ^
I doubt this bowl game alone will have much impact on the next class, but it probably does contribute to the need for Michigan to come out of the gate next year looking like a competent offensive team. If Michigan starts next year ranked at all, everybody and their brother is going to be screaming "pretenders" until we prove the offense is improved.
Not sure why people felt the need to downvote you to oblivion for raising the question, though.