OT- Game of Thrones S7 E7: The Dragon and the Wolf
August 28th, 2017 at 9:12 AM ^
August 28th, 2017 at 9:54 AM ^
nah arya was too smug. she called him out when he was standing there saying nothing almost immediately.
August 28th, 2017 at 10:16 AM ^
think what the audience was supposed to believe is that Arya and Sansa were actually fueding but Bran came at them with data and they saw that Littlefinger was actually the problem. That is the best I can come up with, unless Arya and Sansa were actually "breaking the forth wall" and having several scenes only for the audience. That would have surprised me before this season but now I am not exactly sure.
August 28th, 2017 at 11:31 AM ^
co worker has a theory that they were working littlefinger. As in we dont see him but we are supposed to assume he has his ear to the door. Which makes sense. The episode or 2 before he and Arya were playing cat and mouse. It looks like he is winning the game because thats what Arya and Sansa want him to think.
August 27th, 2017 at 10:33 PM ^
August 27th, 2017 at 10:34 PM ^
Torrmund is alright, right?
August 27th, 2017 at 10:37 PM ^
too bad Eastwatch went down all soft...
August 27th, 2017 at 10:38 PM ^
Well it was off screen and they generally don't kill major characters off screen. He'll dig his way out from under the fallen ice wall...right?
August 27th, 2017 at 10:50 PM ^
He was on the part of the wall that survived. There was a reaction shot of him watching the wall go down.
My guess is that he travels the wall to Castle Black and dies there. He's got to die a heroic death with Brienne in attendance.
August 27th, 2017 at 10:54 PM ^
Castle Black is irrelevant with a hole in the Wall. It isn't really a true Castle, anyway, i.e., defended on all sides. It was supposed to keep stuff north of the Wall.
August 28th, 2017 at 1:05 AM ^
to go that direction along the wall.
The army of the dead is probably going south to winterfell (or white harbor) and given their slow pace, Tormund plausibly could get to castle black to get down from the wall, rejoin the rest of the crows and and meet back up for what is likely to be some serious battling in the north.
August 28th, 2017 at 1:58 AM ^
I think it'd be easier to climb down the rubble once the army of the dead has passed than to walk all the way to Castle Black, so you're probably right, he'll be there in no time. Won't die there, though - no reason anyone should stay there now.
August 27th, 2017 at 11:26 PM ^
August 27th, 2017 at 10:34 PM ^
Aegon Targeryen and heir to the mutha freakin Iron Throne,,
August 28th, 2017 at 2:51 PM ^
Ajon
August 27th, 2017 at 10:36 PM ^
tremendous dialogue
lots of intrigue
betrayal
dany and jon fucking
family in the north
and an ending to remind us of just how fucked the north is.
August 27th, 2017 at 10:44 PM ^
August 27th, 2017 at 10:53 PM ^
Either Dani or Jon will die on dragonback taking down the Night King and his dragon.
It should, by all rights, be Jon, so I am betting on it being a pregnant Dani.
August 27th, 2017 at 10:39 PM ^
August 27th, 2017 at 10:51 PM ^
And yet not exactly Ilyn Payne. Ned taught that the Lord should do his own executions. Jon's not there, and Sansa is Sansa. Arya may not be the Lady of Winterfell, but at least it was a Stark that carried it out.
August 28th, 2017 at 12:09 AM ^
she's more Ned Stark than Ilyn Payne.
August 27th, 2017 at 10:43 PM ^
Shaka, when the Wall fell.
Too bad Bran can't communicate telepathically. He knew, but not in time. That will be an interesting scene. I pick Sam for the reveal. "Hey, Jon, guess what? You're not a bastard! You're trueborn!"
"I'm what?"
"Yeah, you're a Targaryen! Aegon Targaryen!"
"I'M WHAT???"
Sam sees Jon and Dany turn very pale and exchange looks. "Oh, is something the matter?"
August 27th, 2017 at 10:50 PM ^
August 27th, 2017 at 11:07 PM ^
The Empire Strikes Back, did they ever cut out the scene where Luke and Leia are making out???
Now, how long will we have to wait for the final GOT season?
August 28th, 2017 at 2:38 AM ^
I hope when they do the reveal, they do a flashback of the sex scene with his Aunt and he's like oh shit... and flashes to an Ace Ventura like scene after he kissed Finkle/Einhorn.
August 29th, 2017 at 11:12 AM ^
August 27th, 2017 at 10:51 PM ^
Did the show ever name Rhaegar and Elia's kids? I guess Lyanna could have known that Ser Gregor already killed the first Aegon, but it still seems weird for Jon's name to be Aegon-- I thought Lyanna said Aemon first, and that would have made much more sense
August 27th, 2017 at 10:58 PM ^
Rhaegar's marriage to Elia was annulled, so her kids were bastards. Lyanna's kid would be the legitimate Aegon, even had Elia and her bastard children survived.
Yeah, I know it makes no sense for Rhaegar to annul his marriage rather than just have a second wife (not unknown to Targaryns), but there you are.
August 27th, 2017 at 11:03 PM ^
It was twue wuv.
August 28th, 2017 at 9:09 AM ^
That doesn't explain why he would name two of his children Aegon. it's another bit of nonsense writing. They have shown that they are not capable of the level of detail in writing that this story requires.
August 28th, 2017 at 9:35 AM ^
And I'm not sure I understand his point about the annulled marriage (I mean Elia's kids were born to married parents, right? I'm not a retroactive bastard because my parents got divorced.)
But I wouldn't be so quick to pin that name on the TV guys. From what I gather, GRRM has been available to help guide the plot toward his intended conclusion. Jon Snow is THE character in this entire franchise. You don't think Martin ever bothered to give him a Targaryen name? Or you don't think he bothered to share that with Beniof & Weiss? I'd bet $1 that the name "Aegon" was Martin's call.
August 28th, 2017 at 10:37 AM ^
I highly doubt that. Martin hasn't been involved in the show for three years now.
August 28th, 2017 at 11:52 AM ^
So Martin wrote, what, 6 gigantic novels? Dropped hints of R+L=J all over the place. Obviously pointed this entire saga toward Jon Snow, developed a metric ton of back story and family lineage and side novellas that gave GoT unmatched depth, and you don't think he ever considered the name of his main character?
Really?
And for the record, George R.R. Martin is still involved with the show. And I quote from an interview he gave about a month ago: "I am involved in the show, of course, and have been since the beginning..."
Good talk.
August 28th, 2017 at 11:21 AM ^
Oh, and the annulment thing only matters because it makes Jon legitimate, and the only surviving child of Rhaegar.
August 28th, 2017 at 11:34 AM ^
Nevermind. Take care, dude.
August 28th, 2017 at 1:14 PM ^
annullment /= divorce
An annulled marriage never legally occurred in the first place, making any kids born of that "marriage" retroactive bastards. A divorce ends a marriage at the time of the divorce, but does not legally nullify the marriage itself.
August 28th, 2017 at 2:02 PM ^
I understand the definition of the words. Thanks.
The practical application doesn't work like that. Annulling a marriage doesn't create a bastard.
August 28th, 2017 at 3:52 PM ^
There is no need. Rhaegar's other children are dead, which is what I was trying to convey above, and got negged for it.
August 28th, 2017 at 11:29 AM ^
It worked for George Foreman. And it wasn't Rhaegar who named Jon Snow, it was Lyanna. She might have picked that name to suggest that her son was the true heir.
August 27th, 2017 at 10:53 PM ^
August 28th, 2017 at 1:41 AM ^
The first 2 episodes, at least, are already out there.
August 27th, 2017 at 11:10 PM ^
August 27th, 2017 at 11:22 PM ^
August 27th, 2017 at 11:42 PM ^
August 27th, 2017 at 11:45 PM ^
Theon is going to save Yara and will have to deal with Euron again, maybe affecting the army of mercenaries Euron is carrying on behalf of Cersei. (?)
August 28th, 2017 at 2:33 AM ^
reason he's still alive, right?
August 28th, 2017 at 2:47 AM ^
That would be my take. Everything seems to be leading toward a redemptive story arc for him. However, this show has surprised me many times.
August 27th, 2017 at 11:44 PM ^
But that scene sets up Theon as the wildcard to the whole Euron and the army of the 20K mercenaries.
August 28th, 2017 at 11:43 AM ^
I hang my head in shame.