OT: Chrysler commercial blasted
A conservative collumnist (not taking any political stance myself, merely stating his) sat in for Rush Limbaugh today, on his radio show, and his this to say, about it, and Detroit itself.
Good to see some things never change....
February 8th, 2011 at 12:09 AM ^
Those who didn't just don't get it.
February 8th, 2011 at 12:25 AM ^
I don't believe that's an accruate statement.
February 8th, 2011 at 12:51 AM ^
I'm inclined to agree with you. I've got friends in the ad game that are less than impressed with the execution based on the budget.
February 8th, 2011 at 12:16 AM ^
We aren't all like this Steyn guy.
February 8th, 2011 at 1:07 AM ^
1) Liked the commercial. Thought it was a great spot, and its been recognized by most folks commenting on commercials. Mission accomplished for Chrysler.
2) Most of the folks trashing the ad, on both sides of the aisle, seem to be trashing Chrysler more than the ad. If you don't care for Chrysler, fine. But don't criticize the ad for that reason. I had a Volkswagon and hated it, but the Darth Vader VW ad was hilarious.
3) As the name suggests, I live in the DC area. Have since I graduated in 1993. The city has changed a ton in that time. Detroit can come back, relegating it to the dustbin of history because of its past and current problems isn't right. Hope that Mayor Bing can make the necessary changes to bring it back.
February 8th, 2011 at 1:28 AM ^
Take it down already.
February 8th, 2011 at 1:59 AM ^
It showed the city of Detroit and was represented by one of or own greats. I though it did a good job of showing the city's toughness and swagger!
Go Detroit and Go Blue!
February 8th, 2011 at 5:24 AM ^
I thought the Chrysler commercial had a positive message - this is a scrappy, resourceful little burgh that has been "to hell and back" economically and the place is still here, still working, still creating. I think that speaks volumes about Metro Detroit and its people - good volumes, at that.
February 8th, 2011 at 8:07 AM ^
The ad was great b/c it focused on the city...not on the Chrysler 200. The Chrysler 200 is a reskined Sebring, which may have been one of the suckiest cars Chrysler has ever produced. They should of highlighted the new 300 because the 200 won't be around too long. I give Chrysler credit for updating a really terrible car and making it decent w/ no time and no development money. However, the 200 will be replaced by a rebadged Fiat product within two years.
February 8th, 2011 at 9:24 AM ^
It's a different car in the same class.
February 8th, 2011 at 12:11 PM ^
It is not a different car. Still the same platform, it is a Sebring underneath. They re-configured the suspension, put a bit of new sheet metal on it and upgraded the interior, then changed the name. The Sebring was a disaster. Going from the Sebring to the 200 is a step up, but you can only polish the turd so much. They will have a new car in a few years to replace the 200 and it will be a Fiat.
Bottom line - Fiat is calling the shots at Chrysler. Not Americans, but Italians. The commercial was a commercial for a city, not a car. Last I checked, Auburn Hills is 33 miles form Detroit. I'm glad they did an ad to lift up Detroit, but I'm not sure it'll help them sell more 200s.
February 8th, 2011 at 12:35 PM ^
You're right, totally the same car but with a different interior, different exterior, different engine options, different lighting, different suspension, and different body mounts.
But outside of that, totally the same car.
February 8th, 2011 at 9:37 AM ^
not surprised to see a fascist rant from a limbaugh ditto head.
February 8th, 2011 at 11:15 AM ^
Didn't you try the "fascist" angle once in this thread and negged pretty solidly for it?
Also, by using the term "fascist" here (repeatedly), in regard to the article in the initial post of this thread, I'd suggest that maybe you don't exactly know what the word you are using actually means.
February 8th, 2011 at 12:12 PM ^
Oh, I know a fascist when i see it. Neoconservative morons like Limbaugh, Sarah Palin, Glenn Beck, Hannity, Coulter would be happy as pigs in shit if there was unitary conservative government approved political ideology in this country ala North Korea. Nevermind, the idea of free academic thought and education is throughly bashed by conservative pundits and their sheep like followers as "elitist." I love it whenever they Faux News pundits get pwn'ed by anyone in the academic arena their only resonse is elitism.
Fox News and conservative talk radio have killed any intelligent conversation in this country. Whenever, someone brings up an argument from their conservative pundit du jour I automatically tune out.
Since when did negging get repaired so it actually deducts from my mgopoint total? Last time I checked, the current situation with negging and plussing is like whose line, the point totals from posts are just pretend.
February 8th, 2011 at 1:01 PM ^
and welcome to MGoBlog.
Please wipe your feet and check your politics at the door.
Regardless of whether negging/plussing actually work, you are being negged because no one wants to hear your views on talkings heads or news networks, conservative or liberal.
You think Limbaugh is a facist, right, we get it. Let's be done with it.
February 8th, 2011 at 9:39 AM ^
1. Liked the commercial...still not going to buy a Chrysler.
2. Being in Toledo, I hope the economies of Detroit and Cleveland improve because that helps my city.
3. Haters going to hate!
February 8th, 2011 at 10:35 AM ^
East Coaster here. Part of Detroit's problem is the rest of the state. The worst things I ever heard about the city were from middle-aged suburban types in SE Michigan, who state that they never, ever go downtown. I grew up in Jersey, and even though everone talked crap about NYC and Philly (this was the 80s) people still went to the city for dinner, culture, etc.
There are many reasons for this, but I think that a big one that is underrated is the lack of a rail network. In college I rarely went to the D. I'm sure that would have been different if there was a cheap train to the stadiums and bars. I'm hopeful that the new light rail line and some commuter trains will really improve the city.
February 8th, 2011 at 11:23 AM ^
"Part of Detroit's problem is the rest of the state. The worst things I ever heard about the city were from middle-aged suburban types in SE Michigan, who state that they never, ever go downtown."
I really hope you meant to say that "Part of Detroit's problem is the rest of the southeastern part of the state", because if you really meant the whole state, the rest of what you said really doesn't make sense. This is speaking in broad generalities, of course, but a substantial number of people on the western side of the state and most of the people in the northern part of the state, especially the Upper Peninsula don't identify with Detroit at all (and by extension don't have any reason to go there or any interested in doing so. Although, even if you did mean the southeastern part of the state, I'm pretty sure most everyone who lives there would disagree with you completely on that, as evidenced by several comments in this thread.
February 8th, 2011 at 1:28 PM ^
Yup. Sure you can find people who don't go to the city, but you can also find people who are passionately devoted to the Detroit Symphony, the DIA, the Detroit Opera Theater, the Lions, the Tigers... then you've got concert venues, the theatre stuff, the science center. casinos. Lots of people head into the city on a regular basis for culture, entertainment, and recreation even if they neither live nor work there.
U-M has a center there and initiatives like The Detroit Project are helping funnel U-M student energies and outreach to the city.
Better transportation would help, no doubt.
February 8th, 2011 at 10:42 AM ^
There's lots of stuff at work here and in the commercial.
I like and respect that Eminem is from Detroit, proud of it, and trying to do something to help.
I don't care for Chrysler, the Stratus, the 200 or the multiple times the company has been bailed out.
I thought the commercial was decent. I think "Imported from Detroit" is a stupid comment. My immediate, outloud reaction was, "Well it is a demilitarized zone, but not yet a foreign country. What is that supposed to mean?" The comment that "Detroit has done more for this country than this country has done for Detroit" may be fair. The end in the Fox Theater (a beautiful, historic landmark) was cool.
Despite being born in Detroit and hoping for a return to prosperity, I don't see it happening. Just saying that we want Detroit to be back isn't going to make it happen. Steyn's (sp?) comments may have been inflammatory, but aren't off the mark. Detroit is the epicenter of all the things wrong with this state. Some of these are:
- Business tax rates among the highest in the nation
- Corrupt politics (especially Kwame, somewhat reversed by Bing)
- The UAW and Big 3 management working together to destroy nearly uncountable value
- A non-right-to-work state
- A city infrastructure and cost base unsustainable given the revenue and income generated
- A liberal, socialist, entitlement mindset affecting a large portion of a population with unemployment among the highest in the country
As others have pointed out, Chrysler, the recipient of numerous bailouts, claiming that not enough has been done for them is a bit ridiculous.
February 8th, 2011 at 12:40 PM ^
I didn't like "Imported from Detroit" either. The commercial grew on me after I watched a second time, but that line at the end was really weird. I was like, so now Detroit is part of Canada? I guess those bastards in Windsor managed to find a way to take over.
February 8th, 2011 at 11:29 AM ^
"Put a dick in their mouth, so I guess it's 'fuck what they say'"
February 8th, 2011 at 2:19 PM ^
I guess this sums both sides up pretty well. (The title is misleading, read the article.)
I still think it's possible to disconnect the spot from Detroit and wonder if Chrysler really needed to spend almost $9 million on this. If Chrysler's goal was to pump up Detroit, great, but you could have done that without Eminem and like, how the hell did the rest of that cost that much? It was just shots of the city and the car.
If Chrysler is trying to sell the 200 (which you think would be the goal of an introductory spot), I don't know how a commercial pumping up Detroit, saying, "Detroit isn't like any other city and we don't take shit from anyone," is going to play in Chicago and LA, much less Kansas.
February 8th, 2011 at 3:31 PM ^
"how the hell did the rest of that cost that much."
Uhhh, it aired during the superbowl.
Edit: I give up, the html sux on this shit.
February 8th, 2011 at 3:24 PM ^
Hey why don't you, DIE IN A FIRE, guy.
Love, Detroit.
February 8th, 2011 at 4:20 PM ^
should be kissing Detroit's ass, because without its industrial production capability. there is an excellent chance the Allies would have lost World War II.
February 8th, 2011 at 5:09 PM ^
+1i for your signature line.
+2i if you can figure out what i stands for.
February 8th, 2011 at 6:49 PM ^
I've seen several sources that all state the US sent about 351,000 trucks to Stalin's USSR during WW2. This gave the USSR far more mechanized logistics than the Germans and freed their relocated Ural factories up to crank out all those T-34s, JS-2s, and artillery pieces that ripped the guts out of Hitler's war machine.
Michigan's natural resources and fighting men were also instrumental during the Civil War. George Custer and Michigan cavalry dominated JEB Stuart and his men during Gettysburg and these actions deprived Lee of valuable intelligence about Union forces. Toward the end of the fight Custer's unit guarded the Union rear against further CSA cavalry incursions.