Mike Barwis porn is back!!!!
It is Back!!! They have started their winter strength and conditioning program and Mgoblue has some video posted. Mike gets off a classic line about throwing up in sand and he comments on Big Will. Go check it out by going to multimedia and picking the football portion and well you should know the rest. Enjoy.
http://www.mgoblue.com/home/
January 17th, 2009 at 10:44 AM ^
If this happened at East Lansing you know the soccer team would start a riot.
January 17th, 2009 at 5:03 PM ^
Chi, my point was that life's not fair, not that there are more important things than football, etc. You should know I'm smarter than that. What it comes down to is that football is the bread winner for the university. Think it sucks that the soccer/lacrosse/softball/swim teams don't get the same treatment? Well I do too, but you know what- it's the way the world works. I just get sick of the "why can't everything be fair" bullshit that goes on in our society sometimes. Life's not fair. Man up and deal with it.
And I know you have a more personal level of interest in the non-revenue sports than most of us- my statements aren't a personal shot at you or those programs, it's the argument that everyone deserves everything to be equal, ie "everyone gets a trophy so no one feels bad" kinda thing that pisses me off.
January 17th, 2009 at 6:11 PM ^
If you think "the football team can have their sand-pit in their own brand new facility" = everyone gets a trophy, then you're bringing your own stuff in here.
I'm not begrudging the football team having their own facilities, much less sand-pit. They can put it in their own new building, right? Where they don't take the only space that three other sports teams share?
I haven't seen the sand-pit, I haven't watched the video, and, honestly, I don't care that much. I was stirred to say something by the legion of people who seem to think that if it's not football, it doesn't matter. I don't know how much this is impacting the lacrosse or soccer teams, if it is at all - I was more disgusted by the "who cares, it's soccer" response.
January 17th, 2009 at 8:53 PM ^
This could be a long shot. But maybe the lacrosse and soccer teams might benefit from the sandpit as well. And if they don't know what to do with it, maybe Barwis will clue in their S&C people about the uses of said sandpit and benefits that might come. In the long run this might help them even more. And then we are all happy!
January 18th, 2009 at 2:56 AM ^
Barwis isn't that revolutionary, holmes. He's pretty average..he's just that more intense. Unless the lacrosse and soccer's S&C involves standing on that Machine that vibrates your lower back like football's did...I'm not sure he'll teach them anything.
January 17th, 2009 at 10:30 PM ^
Barwis says the sand will improve performance on solid ground. That being the case, if the back left corner of the soccer practice field is sand, then our players will be pleasantly surprised to find excellent solid footing in the back left corner during actual games and end up performing better.
I just hope it doesn't have one of those wood rims like the edge of the sandbox in elementary school because some dumbass always hits his head on that and ruins it for everyone.
January 17th, 2009 at 11:01 PM ^
That or someone pees in it.
January 17th, 2009 at 11:53 PM ^
boring
January 18th, 2009 at 2:31 AM ^
You guys are missing the teams most affected by this change...the Intramural Flag Football Championships are held in Oosterbaan. Where are those frat boys gonna play now to win the title? Yeah, you assholes didn't think about them, just the men on the softball team.
January 18th, 2009 at 7:38 AM ^
I wasn't in a frat, but I played in an IM championship game there. That was the crowning moment of my sports career.
January 18th, 2009 at 12:05 PM ^
Did your performance in the championship game earn you a pink slip?
January 18th, 2009 at 12:43 PM ^
I lol'd.
January 18th, 2009 at 1:08 PM ^
No, it earned me a raise. The team promoted me to head cheerleader.
January 18th, 2009 at 6:18 AM ^
maybe this has already been mentioned... but can't they get some sort of removable astroturf (or whatever it is..) boards to go over the sandpit whenever the football team is not using it? I know thats what the Miami Dolphins do to deal with sand from the Florida Marlins' infield when the Baseball and Football seasons overlap...???
January 18th, 2009 at 9:32 AM ^
For the record: I don't think that many people here are terribly upset about the sandpit - I'm not really concerned about it. What irritated me, and, seemingly, CPS, was the "Footall rules, lacrosse r queer" sort of attitude. Just because you can't throw a XXL soccer t-shirt on and sit on your ass every saturday with the jumbo-sized bean-dip watching them doesn't make then second class citizens, or less of a sport.
Does football pay for the vast majority of the other sports? Well, sorta. I can tell you, as a former member of the lacrosse team, that the single largest financial contributor to our program was ourselves. Sticks, pads, buses, coach? Paid for by the team. We got free uniforms and shoes, and I guess we didn't have to buy the land for our field. So, I'd caution you to not speak so quickly - I worked (and many others did) 25-30 hours a week, in ADDITION to playing a sport going to class solely for the privelege of playing. Go to the team's home page (http://www.umich.edu/~menslax/), you will find it littered with pleas for donations, and links from the entities that DO help fund the team - Cottage Inn, Riddell Lacrosse, and an athletics goods store. So does the lacrosse team "owe anything" to the football team? In the most negligible way possible.
January 18th, 2009 at 10:08 AM ^
Lacrosse isn't a varsity sport play into that? But aren't most club sports self-funded?
This is a serious question not trying to come across like an ass, I really just don't know.
January 18th, 2009 at 10:09 AM ^
The argument advanced above was that the teams that are hampered by this should STFU because football funds their programs. That's untrue.
January 18th, 2009 at 10:42 AM ^
When I started this thread it was my intentions for us to watch and enjoy some classic footage of Barwis talking his usual smack. I did not think that it would turn into sandbox gate. With that said, I must apologize for my flippant response to the whole sandbox issue. I, for one, was ill informed of the sacrifices made by the lacrosse team and two was immature in my response to their plight. ChitownBlue your post was most insightful in shedding some light on the situation, humanizing the players and letting me see beyond my short sighted football fanatasism. So I do wish to apologize to anyone I may have offended with my comments about football being king and the like.
January 18th, 2009 at 11:14 AM ^
No worries. I assumed you just didn't know.
I think the other factor in play here is that it seems like this may have prompted the lacrosse team to cancel their winter camp for high schoolers - which is one of their largest fund-raisers. The field in Oosterban is technically too small by NCAA standards (which is why when an NCAA team comes to town, we play them at Elbel Field) as there isn't enough out-of-bounds space (60+ MPH shots bouncing right back off the wall is a concern). Obviously, the pit, while not huge, eats up into that.
Now, this is 100% speculation, as I haven't bothered to find out from other alums or the coach, but the reasons given for cancelling the camp (player's on vacation) never stopped them from holding it when I was there - we were expected to be there on our vacation.
January 18th, 2009 at 11:40 AM ^
Now that would actually be wrong. If a clinic for kids was thrown aside, that would be unfortunate, but I'm also guessing you're not going to have these sorts of problems when the new field is finished. Which is I'm guessing why it's being built in the first place.
I do think other sports are lesser sports. Baseball for one is a lesser sport. I love baseball. I love it more than football, but a sports importance is dictated by the fan base the revenue stream, the amount of kids playing it. This goes for nationally too. Tv deals are reworked, cancelled, changed, between nation sports because football is king in this country, and hockey say is almost forgotten. I love hockey as well so I don't think they're worse sports.
I don't really care about whining from another sports. I mean personally I don't really care either, but also that's how it really works. I'm not sitting here saying oh poor lacrosse players suck it up. I'm saying thats the way it is, because football makes the money. They should suck it up and stop whining, cuz its not going to change. They're lacrosse. I don't really care which way is which. I'm not arguing for one side or another. It already is a certain way, and is handled a certain way. I don't hate lacrosse, but until they become important and rake it huge money, they can't complain, because it won't do anything.
January 18th, 2009 at 12:50 PM ^
By that logic, the entire University should do everything the football team wants, because it's the largest revenue stream. Which is stupid.
January 18th, 2009 at 1:24 PM ^
Isn't that what they do ? Streamline kids educations, make classes easier, make admissions easier. As far as they can go, hell they're willing to break the rules as long as they don't get caught. They even did it for basketball. I'm guessing though the football program isn't terribly demanding. It's not stupid. Its the way it is. I'm not making an argument about what should be done. This isn't me trying to make a point. It's the way it is, by evidence that this is exactly what is happening.
January 18th, 2009 at 2:30 PM ^
You're not making judgements?
I do think other sports are lesser sports.
January 18th, 2009 at 2:54 PM ^
I didn't say I wasn't judging anything. I said I wasn't trying to make an argument for something to happen one way or the other. I also said I'm not trying to make a point. Now that was a little indirect. By that I meant I wasn't of the mindset everyone else should suck it up because football makes all the money. I'm not on either side of the argument. It may seem like it, but I'm saying this is the way it is. They should suck it up, because thats whats happened.
I also argued that they can't change it, because they don't make any money. They can't build their own field, they have no clout.
Other sports are lesser sports. Not from a "lets argue ten minutes about if golf is actually a sport" standpoint. But from a "we're going to do whatever we want standpoint, unless a sport that is higher tiered than us says so." Football is king, everything else is lesser, nationally, collegiately, whatever. I' don't think they're lesser, but they are. If basketball wasn't lesser lets try to have them purchase the 8:30 time slot on NBC every week on Sunday. They don't have the money. They can't make that money, because they are a lesser sport.
January 18th, 2009 at 6:21 PM ^
"By that logic, the entire University should do everything the football team wants, because it's the largest revenue stream. Which is stupid."
Actually, I think that logic makes perfect sense, since the largest revenue streams for the school are student tuition and state funding.
January 18th, 2009 at 11:44 AM ^
Now we're taking shots at jumbo bean dip? You've gone too far. Everyone knows that bean dip is king and brings home the bacon. All the other dips should be happy that bean dip allows them to share buffet space... and for goodness sakes, don't put any sand in my bean dip.
January 18th, 2009 at 11:50 AM ^
Gross.
January 18th, 2009 at 9:33 AM ^
Watched the video a second time just to make sure I knew what I was talking about. I'm not sure what the lacrosse coach's beef is. I don't have, like, a floor plan, but it looks to me like they didn't take away any of the football field space for the sand pit, and a lacrosse field is smaller than a football field.
January 18th, 2009 at 1:50 PM ^
for soccer the beach only takes oup the space for th enet and the area around where the goalie usually is. as a goalie in soccer i can tell you that sliding in feidl turf for a ball is not fun at all and i would be happy to dive in a goal area full of sand. it will also help them build their vertical leap which is extreamly important for playing in net.
January 18th, 2009 at 3:26 PM ^
As someone who has played keeper and also practiced on a shit field where there was sand in the 6-yard box:
This is the stupidest comment ever. If you're playing keeper in sand, all you're going to accomplish is getting lit up and fucking up your gloves. It will hurt less than field turf, but it will do you exactly no good whatsoever in terms of actually practicing. Doing plyos in sand would be beneficial; trying to 'play soccer' in sand sucks balls.
January 18th, 2009 at 3:30 PM ^
Chitown,
I'm not one to denigrate non-revenue sports out of hand, but isn't lacrosse, as a non-varsity sport, an entirely different beast? Soccer and field hockey may have legitimate beefs, and their opinions should not be steamrolled by whatever the football teams desires (though I assume there's a way to cover up the sand pit in the short term, and to remove it once the new practice facility is open). But isn't the university's decision to allow the lacrosse team to use those facilities basically an act of generosity?
January 18th, 2009 at 5:10 PM ^
Yeah, you're right. Varsity sports are funded through the athletic department, whereas club sports are funded in the manner chitown explained. I'm not sure how any analogy can be drawn between lacrosse and a varsity sport in this instance.
I don't know the details of this whole thing, but won't this be a non-issue once the new practice facility opens up?
January 18th, 2009 at 10:43 PM ^
Yes, it will be.