March 8th, 2017 at 6:29 PM ^

No there's no FAR's for this as there doesn't need to be. The plane was using 23L at KYIP the weather machine just broke at KYIP before takeoff most likely not due to high winds. The winds at Detroit metro were [email protected] to 47kts. This is once again fairly common. On that runway the wind would have been a 23.5 kt crosswind and a 40.7 kt headwind. I'll wait to see if something broke that caused the pilots to reject a plane, which I'm guessing was above V1. If they did because they thought it was unsafe they should have made that choice with the parking brake set sitting with no one on the plane. Ameristar isn't getting the cream of the crop as far as skilled aviators are concerned.


March 8th, 2017 at 6:53 PM ^

The past few years any time I've seen Football/Basketball on charters have all been on Delta.

It just seems strange they would have gone with Ameristar in the first place. From what I can tell that MD-83 is configured for 153 basic economy seats. That's a downgrade from any spare mainline aircraft they would get from Delta and a yuuuuge downgrade from the awesome 56 seat all business configured A319s they have.


March 8th, 2017 at 11:55 PM ^

Aircraft have a maximum demonstrated crosswind... says the manufacturer tested the airplane to that point.  It isn't a legal limit.  As far as I know there are no FAA established crosswind limitations.  

Commerical carriers do establish company policy and guidlines for a variety of weather conditions......crosswind component could be one of those.   Violating those guidelines could be a violation of federal aviation regulations...not sure about that.


March 8th, 2017 at 3:47 PM ^

Hoping the the B10 tournament moves the game to 4pm to give them extra time to travel (by bus?). Then I can skip out of work early and make it home for the game.

Blue 4 Life

March 8th, 2017 at 3:48 PM ^

I'm really glad everyone is alright.

on a secondary note, I live in South Africa where the winds are INSANE and scary as shit when flying. This is really going to do a number on my conscience during my next take off and landing.


March 8th, 2017 at 7:15 PM ^

If it impacts more than one team then it is, in fact, Jim Delaney's fault. If it's just Michigan, then we blame Dave Brandon. However, if for some reason that fails then the blame shifts to RichRod. If we are still looking for a scapegoat, then our final answer is some combination of Chris Webber, Ed Martin, and Steve Fisher. Combined, they are responsible for all that ails us.

Except for that stupid halo around the stadium. That's totally on Bill Martin.


March 8th, 2017 at 3:50 PM ^

Man, I hope Austin Hatch wasn't on there. That'd be extra terrifying for him. I'm not sure if he's still an assistant or if he travels.


March 8th, 2017 at 4:02 PM ^

I posted this on the other weather thread, but I wanted everyone to see it again. I think it is very important to understand the genesis of this type of weather: 

Glad everyone was safe. Scary stuff.

look at the barometric pressure across north America:

This is one of the lowest continental atmospheric pressures ever recorded at 964 mB, and it has already spawned severe weather including a tornado outbreak across the lower midwest on Monday. The record is from October 2010 in Minnesota (955 mB), which also spawned a huge tornado event.


March 8th, 2017 at 4:27 PM ^

I remember looking out from my downtown apartment one night and you saw nothing but fires across the city and burbs from all the high winds.

I already had to put my mom's garbage can and parts of her gutter in the garage.  Heard on the radio that the soft ground from our rather mild, yet rainy winter is making the trees more susceptible to being blown down.


March 8th, 2017 at 6:50 PM ^

Not to mention insane fire hazards across Northwest Oklahoma/Northeast Kansas. Absolutely insane fire outbreak apparently from a combination of dry conditions combined with 50-60 mph winds that caused power lines to spark while colliding with each other. Absolutely crazy. The greater portion of land in that area is now burnt to a crisp. Dead cattle everywhere and everything.


March 8th, 2017 at 4:51 PM ^

We can all agree that Harbaugh was the first person on the tarmac assisting with the emergency slide, right?
No doubt he has special tarmac cleats that grip the concrete better


March 8th, 2017 at 4:10 PM ^

Glad everyone is ok.  The bad side to this is now their schedule will be altered and I would bet the farm that they will be very sluggish during the game tomorrow.  I expect very low energy which using doesn't bode well, especially for this team.


March 8th, 2017 at 4:37 PM ^

I was a high school junior in Evansville, Indiana when the University of Evansville basketball team perished in a plane crash on Dec. 13, 1977. I wouldn't wish the pain and sadness from that event on my worst enemy.


March 8th, 2017 at 4:14 PM ^

"Plane carrying Michigan basketball team..."

*heart sinks*

"...involved in accident;"

*please no*

" injuries"

Still adjusting to breathing again.

Damn constant news alerts.  We didn't have to deal with this shit when I was growing up.

Get off my lawn.

Why DAFUQ would they even try to depart in 50-60 mph wind?  DAMMIT.

(Truly grateful everyone is okay, regardless of basketball.  Go Blue.)