M - 8 MSU - 0 (FB recruiting)
Unbelievable. MSU coming off of their dream season and we're 8-0 (9-0 if you count Shane)against them in head to head recruiting. Lets keep the streak going and right things this fall in Spartan Stadium. Next up.....
While I'll miss the spread O, Hoke and company seem to be doing all the right things. Keep it going in recruiting and hopefully on the field this fall.
Are there really this many solid contributers in Michigan this year? Per Brian's posts on in-state talent last week, it seems there end up being only about 5 quality D1 players per year.
I make up statistics sometimes, too.
Are there more than 5 All-World Gallactic Destroyers of Men in Michigan in a given year? Maybe. Maybe not. But you can't build a team on a seven awesome guys and a bunch of droopy-eyed armless children.
I don't understand why people always say we shouldn't focus on beating msu right now. I'm sorry, but if you forgot they beat us the last 3 years and have been a better team as of late. It pains me to say it, but let's be honest, we aren't on Ohio's level as of now, we may be soon, but not right now. Historically and going back even a few years absolutely, but right now I can't have a straight face and tell you that the programs have equal strength. Now, they may be momentarily after the ncaa sanctions and michigan's reestablishment, but right now, beating msu should be the first task. Beat msu and the state of michigan turns completely blue again, it's that simple.
Now, I'm not saying to work on beating ohio, but you can't claim that we shouldn't focus on msu, etc. If i'm not mistaken, we have a pretty long losing streak against them as well, we need to focus on beating both streaks.
Looking over the list of players that have received offers from both schools, it looks like we can definitely keep this going:
Players where I would say we're in good postion to get: Sheldon Day, Jordan Diamond, Terry Richardson, Chris Wormley
Should be a good battle between UM and MSU: Aaron Burbridge, Ondre Pipkins
Players where we've got a fair-reasonable shot to get: JJ Denman, Kyle Dodson, Jaleel Johnson, Armani Reeves,
There are others of course, but these were the ones that stood out to me. I'm not sure if State is leading on anyone that we would like to get, but from this vantage point, I think we're in good shape to keep the wins going.
The best part is, The Great Recruiting Beatdown of 2012 is not over yet. I don't know of a single target of ours that is considered an MSU lean. The best they've got is Burbridge, who is a 50/50 by all accounts. The rest of our targets are considered leans for Michigan, or they won't end up at either school.
Every time we compare ourselves to State, State wins. They think they are Michigan rivals, and if we spend all this time comparing our program to their's we might as well admit Michigan State are our equals and that we actually care about them.
It's okay to compare ourselves to State, as long as the standard that we look for is domination. What was disappointing about the last few classes is the fact that MSU, by-and-large, pulled even with us.
And for what it's worth, this recruiting class is looking pretty good when compared to our conference peers too.
MSU has beaten us three straight years and posted a better record each of those years. It's fun to act all high and mighty, but right now we need to catch up to them.
same as the old normal.
beating MSU in recruiting = nothing, since their classes are generally ranked pretty low anyway.
Beating MSU in recruiting is a lot better than the alternative. Are you looking forward to seeing Lawrence Thomas at MSU the next four years?
some games or ST#U. Score board will always top top a recruiting class that is 9 months from signing anything.
we're beating them for recruits we want, some of whom we expected to pick MSU.
it's turning ugly already. This was on a thread titled "How is Hoke doing it?"
"Since Hoke replaced RR every single recruit with UM and MSU offers have commited to UM!!! Yes, I know MSU will be ok, and I feel will sign a good class but 10-0 head to head is not realistic. One has to wonder if Hoke and co. may be stretching the rules a bit? "
Didn't take long to go there "stretching the rules a bit?"
Regression to the mean is a lovely thing when it happens to snot-nosed upstarts.
Come on, they're not upstarts. They're basically ND, before ND was ND. They're innovators; Returning to Glory Since 1966.
has more national championships (5) then the number of B1G titles msu has won or shared in the last 40 years (4).
MSU doesn't go after B1G titles, they win nationally.
B1G titles would be a nice place to start. Maybe they'll get a Heisman winner out of all that in-state 2* talent.
Notre Dame is consistantly pretenting it's 1966, when they were awesome. Michigan State is always pretending it's next year, when they're GONNA be awesome.
Not only have you lost three in a row, but you're posting this statement in a thread made to brag about how awesome you're going to be. This is the height of irony. Not that I would expect a Michigan fan to be well versed in what constitutes hypocrisy.
Ms. Morrisette.
Actually this is a thread celebrating results. Hence the quantifiable 8-0 (9-0).
Does the May Recruiting Trophy go next to the September Heisman on the shelf? You know, where Paul Bunyan used to be?
Your shelf life clearly won't be very long.
You must have been the Sparty who had to bake that cake for Godin.
It really doesn't matter if we as fans obsess about MSU or anyone else, because (I hate to bring this up but someone has to) well, the truth is that the players actually play the games, and the coaches actually coach the games.
So we could decide to obsess over beating, oh, Eastern Michigan. And nothing would happen to the football team.
The only thing that I have done as a fan that has been scientifically proven to affect the team was misplacing my game day lucky socks for the past 3 years. That was bad. I think they must have been defensive lucky socks.
But I've since found them.
Can you feel it...
For a low-volume poster, you sure like to defend Sparty:
Michigan's winning all the faceoffs for when M and msu recruit the same talent. Recruits can put two and two together. Greg Mattison or Mork?
MSU is undefeated against Michigan? Wow, who knew?