Dantonio Talks About Michigan

Submitted by Western_ on November 11th, 2019 at 11:53 PM

 

Little brother...it's not over

 

Put a stake in it...

 

 

That's BS!

 

 

 

 

Ready for the game yet?  LET'S GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'mTheStig

November 12th, 2019 at 12:11 AM ^

The hilarious, ironic, thing about the "lil bro" stuff is if it wasn't for Dantonio taking "offense" to it, it wouldn't be a thing.

I mean has anyone ever seen a D1 coach, err any coach, get upset about 1 player's post game comment?  Publicly upset?  You're not upset about blowing the game, you're upset about something Hart said in jest?!?!

You lost pal, move on.  It's not like Hart said you're ugly and your mom dresses you funny.  Hart isn't banging your wife.  He said your team was like little brother in losing the game.  If that's a burn, your skin is paper thin.

Of course, the fan base perpetuates the stereotype to this day as well.

Grampy

November 12th, 2019 at 8:10 AM ^

It’s all play-acting.  Dantonio doesn’t give a rat’s ass what Mike Hart thinks, but he does know a good tag line when he sees it.  His record against us for the last decade is evidence of his good judgement in this regard.  Given his response can be seen as quite petty by any mature individual and the enormous amount of ink spilled over it, I believe it will a millstone around his legacy over time (another perception about which Dantonio cheerfully ignores).  He certainly has gotten mileage out of it.

oriental andrew

November 12th, 2019 at 8:59 AM ^

I mean has anyone ever seen a D1 coach, err any coach, get upset about 1 player's post game comment?  Publicly upset?  You're not upset about blowing the game, you're upset about something Hart said in jest?!?!

This is also a narrative which doesn't quite fit. I mean, he made some snarky (and many would say immature) comments, but it's not like he was John L slapping himself or Mike Gundy going on a grown man rant. 

Alumnus93

November 12th, 2019 at 12:24 AM ^

Hart was reacting to their players dumping on the program, and Dantonio reacted to him... bad look for a coach to low blow a student... what a lowlife... perfect for that program... now I know why they didn't hire him back in 2007.  The coach is supposed to take the high road.

Building_7_Free_Fall

November 12th, 2019 at 12:46 AM ^

One of my co-workers is a Chinese-American who got his MSEE from the University of Illinois.  So naturally I had to congratulate, and thank him, today for their Sparty take-down on Saturday.  The first words out of his mouth when I mentioned Michigan State were, "you mean MOCK MICHIGAN?"  LOL, the disrespekt has now gone global!

Jon06

November 12th, 2019 at 9:39 AM ^

Did you read the part where he identified somebody by their ethnicity for no reason, and then was immediately defended by somebody going (paraphrasing, because I'm too lazy to check the exact words) "I'm white and I like to imagine things accurately"?

If so, you saw what I saw. I like to call that what it is, although you may be more willing than I am to avoid saying anything critical, lest you should hurt some snowflake's feelings. (If you can't feel better by not being racist, though, my dear snowflakes, maybe you can feel better by downvoting me again. Go for it.)

Building_7_Free_Fall

November 13th, 2019 at 12:32 AM ^

"identified somebody by their ethnicity for NO REASON" (caps mine)

This is unsupported speculation.  You made an assumption with insufficient basis for making that assumption.  The assumption was wrong and, making matters worse, it was negative.

As I pointed out below, the reference to "Chinese" was to highlight the international aspect of the disrespekt.

For the sake of you and your future relationships I hope you will stop doing this.  Claiming that you know what someone is thinking, being wrong about it, and then being negative to boot is a surefire recipe for a heated argument.

More generally, we can all probably benefit from some more intellectual humility at times.  Our communication is not always perfect.  Our knowledge is not always the same.  It's easy to think the other guy is wrong.  Experience teaches that the other guy is not always the one who's wrong.

Jon06

November 13th, 2019 at 3:38 AM ^

The story was about a Chinese-American, that is, an American. The only reason you are imagining that there is an "international aspect" in play is because you're engaging in the same prejudiced thinking as the person who told the story.

I mean, I actually agree with you about the person's reason. But what I see and you refuse to see is that it is only possible to have that as a reason if you imagine that Chinese-Americans are not regular Americans, which is *drum roll* racist.

ETA: I just saw that downthread the person who posted the story clarified that it's about somebody who is from Taiwan. (Don't worry. I still think what you said is subject to the above criticism, since you appear not to have known that when you posted.) But it is, anyway, impossible for me to tell from what that person has now said whether it's true that the Taiwanese immigrant is Chinese-American or not. I guess that depends at least in part on what the person thinks about their own ethnicity, since whether any given Taiwanese person is Chinese or not seems like a sensitive political question. But given that new information, it's now possible to imagine that the person's being from Taiwan is relevant and could be pointed out without any racism involved. Of course, that the person is from Taiwan is not what the person who told the story did point out, but whatever. 

iMBlue2

November 14th, 2019 at 1:35 PM ^

It’s not racism to describe a person,  would you be offended if I called Jon Teske tall? Racism involves the subjugation of one race by another.  This situation doesn’t fit that.  Please stop embarrassing yourself with fake outrage it doesn’t make you more “woke”

Jon06

November 12th, 2019 at 9:47 AM ^

It matters because gratuitously identifying people by their ethnicity is a symptom of racism, ND Sux. It's not super complicated.

Pointing out that something is racist is not whining about it, btw. Some of you strike me as whining about it having been pointed out, but whatever. Cry all you want. Just maybe think about why somebody would be so invested in being allowed to identify people by their ethnicities without anyone calling them out for it. Insofar as you want other people's perceptions of you to match your perception of yourself, maybe just don't do it.

Jon06

November 12th, 2019 at 10:22 AM ^

Scene from a kid's birthday party this past weekend:

Dude: Isn't there a team that's orange and blue?

My wife: The Gators.

Dude: Yeah but there's a team in the South, too. Is it [some team I don't remember]?

Me: No, they're orange and purple. It's Florida.

Dude: Oh, yeah, Florida.

His wife: That's what [Jon06's wife] just said.

Me: Yes, but a man hadn't said it yet, so it wasn't true.

Every woman in the room laughed, but I don't think that guy likes me as much anymore.

Jon06

November 12th, 2019 at 12:27 PM ^

Of course he just didn't hear what she said. Still, what every woman in the room immediately noticed is that he only heard it when I said it. He could have protested. But he's not an idiot, so he acknowledged that all of them interpreted it as a sexist thing he accidentally did, and nobody thought worse of him for it, especially because he didn't make it about his own virtue by throwing a fit.

In conclusion, I am indeed no fun at parties :)