CC: Right. Jimmy wants to sit on his butt while there's a lockout...
January 3rd, 2011 at 11:24 AM ^
There is not going to be a lock-out. At least not one that will impact the regular season.
January 3rd, 2011 at 11:33 AM ^
My company is one of the major NFL sponsors; all of the advice we're getting is saying we should expect to miss at least the September games. We're making multi-million dollar decisions based on this advice. Doesn't mean it's true, but the smart money says there will be at least a couple of games missed...
January 3rd, 2011 at 12:29 PM ^
Why Poop your pants in the NFL, when he can poop his pants at Michigan
January 3rd, 2011 at 11:49 AM ^
I've got a couple friends who work for the NFLPA, and they're saying that a deal won't be done until late August at the very earliest. The sides are extremely far apart right now, and not much of a chance of compromise in sight.
The chance of a shortened season in the NFL next year is a very real possibility.
January 3rd, 2011 at 11:51 AM ^
Ted Kaczynski has no freinds.
January 3rd, 2011 at 12:06 PM ^
Or friends for that matter...
January 3rd, 2011 at 1:43 PM ^
He sends them care packages every year
January 3rd, 2011 at 2:32 PM ^
That timeline is the exact same I'm hearing. Agreement reached in late August, one month to start playing games from there...
January 3rd, 2011 at 11:25 AM ^
DB has had this planned for weeks. We just need to sit back and let the clock tick.
January 3rd, 2011 at 12:15 PM ^
I bet you didn't go snoopin for christmas present before christmas. Amirite?
January 3rd, 2011 at 1:40 PM ^
a broken clock is right at least two times a day!
January 3rd, 2011 at 11:25 AM ^
I like your point about not wanting to sit around during a lockout. As for quoting Bo he can love Bo and never coach at M.
January 3rd, 2011 at 11:33 AM ^
after JH threw the team and university under the bus concerning academics. It's really a shame that Bo is not still alive because JH wouldn't even be a viable option. Not only that, but RR would have never been treated the way he has since he has been here.
January 3rd, 2011 at 11:45 AM ^
Bo would never let you speak on his behalf.
January 3rd, 2011 at 11:57 AM ^
i hate the phrase "throw __ under the bus." it is lazy. perhaps i would take your posts and position more seriously if you were to use actual words and sentences that make sense.
for example: "i felt that what JH said about the university and football players academics was unfair and self serving."
then i could say "oh, really? what did he say?"
and then you would say "he said: “Michigan is a good school and I got a good education there,“but the athletic department has ways to get borderline guys in and, when they’re in, they steer them to courses in sports communications. They’re adulated when they’re playing, but when they get out, the people who adulated them won’t hire them.”"
and i would say "is that not true?"
January 3rd, 2011 at 12:09 PM ^
I think what made it "throwing under the bus" in many people's minds is that he never said it while Bo was alive (and it was a shot directed at Bo and the program under Bo) and he said it as if he didn't do the same sort of thing at Stanford but the numbers and enrollment records don't lie. No one would have a problem with what he said if he had talked about college football in general and then committed to not doing that with his squad but he didn't.
January 3rd, 2011 at 12:56 PM ^
so michigan got called out by name for doing something everyone knows that everyone else does - sounds like a theme
January 3rd, 2011 at 11:28 AM ^
I'm firmly in the camp that says "there's too much damn money for there to be a serious labor dispute in the NFL." That being said. NFL coaches are going to get paid regardless. If Harbaugh wants to be an NFL coach, he might never get a better shot.
January 3rd, 2011 at 11:30 AM ^
The Detroit Free Press is reporting the " JH to UM breaking down" story IS NOT TRUE.
January 3rd, 2011 at 11:52 AM ^
I guess if it's one thing the Freep knows, it's stuff that's NOT TRUE.
January 3rd, 2011 at 12:15 PM ^
And how to print the story anyway.
January 3rd, 2011 at 11:33 AM ^
If someone gave me the option to either work my ass off and turn a program around for an insane amount of money, or to sit my ass down and do nothing for an insane amount of money, I think I would choose the latter. I don't think the threat of a lockout scares the coaches much at all.
January 3rd, 2011 at 11:55 AM ^
I still think some coaches would be hesitant to commit with a potential lockout. Will there be an offseason camp or preseason? I would imagine the transition to a new coaching staff would be much more difficult without the ability to work with your players. And in the NFL, patience runs thin. Possibly even thinner than in college. Josh McDaniels and Mike Singletary didn't even make it through 2 full years. Eric Mangini has already been fired twice and his head coaching career is only 4 years old.
January 3rd, 2011 at 11:33 AM ^
Of course they are. It's a Michigan man going to Michigan. If it were anyone else, the talks would have not only broken down but the potential coach would have insulted Dave Brandon's mother.
January 3rd, 2011 at 11:34 AM ^
I have been a very strong supporter of RR and still am. If this Harbaugh thing goes down, I want to look to it with enthusiasm. My conscience tells me that I would be a whore for doing so and would be cheating on my love for RR. At this point, for me nothing feels right.
January 3rd, 2011 at 11:40 AM ^
Do you love RR more than UM?
What exactly has RR done for Michigan football that inspires this insane devotion from a group of people?
January 3rd, 2011 at 11:44 AM ^
He's done enough to create your username.
January 3rd, 2011 at 12:27 PM ^
I have nothing against RR and maybe he'll be successful somewhere else later in his career but he's certainly earned what's coming his way later this week.
It's not like there was some conspiracy out to get him. His teams are getting embarrassed on the field. It's not a good situation for anybody (coaches, players, University, fans...). He put all of his eggs in one basket and those eggs broke. It's time to move on.
January 3rd, 2011 at 11:34 AM ^
In addition to the NFL issues that may be looming, there is always an open coaching slot in the NFL. He may never get the chance to coach at Michigan again. This is his chance.
January 3rd, 2011 at 11:50 AM ^
To go to a college job with such hopelessly entitled fans that they will give him no more than 2.5 recruiting classes to put double digits in the win column?
Sounds like a dream job!
January 3rd, 2011 at 11:58 AM ^
Touche but Harbaugh has always wanted this (so we're hearing).
January 3rd, 2011 at 12:29 PM ^
Nobody is asking for double digit wins at this point, they've just stopped accepting losses by double digits (10, 10, 17, 20, 30 and 38).
January 3rd, 2011 at 11:35 AM ^
I'm pretty sure coaches and the administrative staff still get paid whether the games are played or not. If there is an extended lockout, the NFL might even build scab teams and play the games anyway.
January 3rd, 2011 at 11:35 AM ^
Maybe I'm naiive but I'd rather, well, coach. Not sit on my ass and collect a paycheck.
January 3rd, 2011 at 11:54 AM ^
and Love.
January 3rd, 2011 at 1:20 PM ^
I agree.
I would gladly sit on my ass while collecting a nice, fat paycheck, but the kind of people who rise to the level where they are a head coach at either a major college program or an NFL franchise are usually the most hard driving, type A personalities on the planet. These types of people usually HATE to be inactive; sitting around for several months with nothing to do would be anathema to these folks.
January 3rd, 2011 at 11:39 AM ^
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January 3rd, 2011 at 12:26 PM ^
Do you have a more important, relevant topic to discuss?
For the weeks leading up to the bowl game, people like you said "can't we wait until after the season to discuss this?" Well, it is after the season. We got blown out - again. I think that this is as good a time as any to discuss this.
Oh, and look at the number of comments in the CC threads. Now look at the number of comments in the other threads. Yeah, people clearly want to discuss this.
January 3rd, 2011 at 11:41 AM ^
January 3rd, 2011 at 11:43 AM ^
Every thread not dealing with CC should now be labeled OT. The feeding frenzy is starting turning into an avalanche.
In regards to the potential lockout, I had that same thought earlier today. I am actually surprised how many NFL coaches are getting fired with the labor uncertainty right now for next season. I imagine it would be hard to transition to a new staff when the players may not even be available for the offseason camp and possibly preseason.
January 3rd, 2011 at 11:55 AM ^
January 3rd, 2011 at 11:58 AM ^
Seeing that the CC has dominated the conversation, everything else has seemed OT.
January 3rd, 2011 at 1:24 PM ^
January 3rd, 2011 at 12:05 PM ^
If he's getting paid.....clearly if we don't get him this decision comes down to money and a desire for lifestyle (i.e. location). We all know that even if there is a lockout, it won't go on indefinitely and at some point likely midway in the 2011 season or at least for the 2012 season, a deal will get done. Lockouts don't mean coaches don't get paid so he may even enjoy the situation of having some time with the family.
January 3rd, 2011 at 12:17 PM ^
He may get paid, yes, however a lockout would mean that he could have absolutely no contact with any of his new players, until a resolution is worked out. If by all indications this is going to be late August/early September,t his would make installing his system into the NFL very difficult, and would hamper at least his first season, and who knows beyond that. All things considered, the NFL lockout may play very heavily on his decision.
January 3rd, 2011 at 12:53 PM ^
Since he will be getting paid the NFL lockout shouldn't be a negative. He can still do planning and work on building his staff.
January 3rd, 2011 at 1:11 PM ^
More time to prep for a new incoming coach might actually be a benefit.