burntorange wi…

February 20th, 2010 at 7:55 PM ^

its just that they arent committing this early. obviously the coaching staff knows wat theyre doing with sleepers - someone else already listed some names - so dont worry about it too much. the kid has fantastic hands, he goes up and plucks the ball out of the air(which u cant teach), and he seems to be able to take a shot.

i hate whoever made his recruiting video. it shows him run the same route over and over again and make a play on the ball. repetition


February 20th, 2010 at 8:05 PM ^

already knows that it's going to be a small class(probably 18) and they don't offer kids this early unless they know that they're really, really good. In this case, this kid is really, really good.

Michigan has more than one JR day. This is the first JR day of the year and there will be more in the future.


February 20th, 2010 at 9:47 PM ^

the thing before the spring practice is the night of the champions. some recruits are invited yea but its not a junior day. the bbq at the big house is in may and again its a recruiting event but not a junior day. junior days are specifically designated for juniors only. theres also 7on7 tournies and camps, but kids from any grade can come. not trying to beef w/ you here...just defending my original point


February 20th, 2010 at 8:25 PM ^

our class size is normal, if not bigger than your typical class(27).

Our '11 class is going to be really, really small so Michigan coaches are more selective with who they offer and how they'll recruit certain players(slowplay them until they land their desire target or recruit them hard).

Looks like we'll have more in-state recruits than normal. Zettel and Beyer are the next likely commits to go along with Greg Brown, Delonte Hollowell and now Sean Conway. That's about 4 in-state players(!!!!) out of 5 committed recruits.


February 20th, 2010 at 8:33 PM ^

You just criticized Tim for mentioning player successes when "it's too early to cite examples of failure." Then what, exactly, are you trying to say about DJ, a player with 4 more years of eligibility?

I agree that it is too early to designate most of RR's players as as hidden gems or busts, but let's not be hypocritical when trying to bolster your argument.

turbo cool

February 20th, 2010 at 8:38 PM ^

You can't make the argument that because Williamson didn't receive other offers after he committed that other programs didn't want him. Unless you're some uber super recruit, other schools don't seem to officially offer scholarships to committed players. They may talk to them and try to get them to change their minds but it doesn't seem like it is common to extend a scholarship to them publicly. I may be wrong but I can't think of many articles i've read on Rivals that talk about committed players who receive official scholarships from other schools.


February 20th, 2010 at 9:45 PM ^

Okay, how about "5 and 4 star (not start) blue chippers" are determined by third party services looking to make a buck.
Good indicators? Sure.
End all be all? No.
Or try this one.
Its only February. Signing day is almost a year away. This class may look drastically different next winter.
And take note, 2011 rankings arent even out yet, so lets wait on passing judgment via the internet.


February 20th, 2010 at 8:16 PM ^

I like it a lot. This kid is pretty fucking good. He isn't fast, but he has the size/hands/athleticism we are looking for. He will have a Cameron Gordon type situation, with potential to work at multiple positions. My guess is that he begins at safety, but could easily be an Eric Decker type WR.

The way people were bitching about small WR's in the 2010 class, everyone should be walking around with an erection over this kid.

Another player from the Cass Tech pipeline(via Seaholm).


February 20th, 2010 at 10:52 PM ^

No, I based my conclusion on the fact that Decker is a tall wide receiver who uses leaping ability and good hands to compensate for lack of speed. It's obviously not a perfect comparison, but Decker is also considered more of a possession receiver.

Belittling a fellow fan on the internet? You are either 10 years old, or have a very small penis.

My guess is both.


February 20th, 2010 at 8:01 PM ^

I guess I don't really get it either. He does seem to have good hands, but he's pretty slow, and not particularly agile. If it wasn't such a small class I'd understand, but that's what coaches get paid for I guess.

Space Coyote

February 20th, 2010 at 8:18 PM ^

Great ball skills. Goes and gets the ball, uses his body well to shield defenders. Natural talent that clearly hasn't been groomed yet. I see nothing wrong with this offer for an WR or if they bulk him up to 220-225, a smallish TE that could cause some match up problems.

Besides, Michigan has a great track record with tall, big, with below-average speed WR. I believe David Terrell, Marquise Walker, among others, did fairly well. Greg Matthews was never fully utilized last year but it could have been a product of the O-line and protection. Perhaps RR wants another receiver with similar skill sets (but consistantly uses his hands)

turbo cool

February 20th, 2010 at 8:19 PM ^

I read the comments below before I watched the video. And well, I guess I was expecting to see the world's slowest, average WR. Anyway, perhaps I saw a different video? This kid doesn't seem that slow and he catches everything. I like this commit.

edit: How can a guy be classified as a "super sleeper" in the month of February before his senior year?

turbo cool

February 20th, 2010 at 8:32 PM ^

Okay, then we definitely saw a different video. I just watched it again to make sure that I wasn't seeing things. But, on almost every single one of his catches he is playing jump ball with a DB right on him (additionally I love, LOVE, the fact that we're getting a tall receiver who isn't fazed by making catches up the middle). I'd think it would be pretty tough to breakaway from a DB when you're in midair. Also, his listed 40 time is 4.5, which is typical for most D1 receivers.

burntorange wi…

February 20th, 2010 at 8:42 PM ^

the DB shouldnt be RIGHT on him. plus i dont think that any of the DBs he was going against were d1 talents so he should be running circles around them if he was fast. dont be so enamored with his go-up-and-get-it ability. do u honestly think his 40 time is legit? i doubt a junior in a public highschool has had his 40 electronically timed. do u honestly think 40 time translates to football speed? knoshon moreno ran a 4.62 at the NFL combine. the kids fast as hell on the field. i agree that he can make a catch in traffic and he has a great jumping ability. fact of the matter is that he is slow. and u spelled "fazed" wrong.

turbo cool

February 20th, 2010 at 8:53 PM ^

No, I'm sure his 40 time has a few fakes in there. I'm not new to this. Also, here's this:

faze (fz)
tr.v. fazed, faz·ing, faz·es
To disrupt the composure of; disconcert.

fazed [feɪzd]
disconcerted; worried; disturbed

So, thanks? And reread your last sentence where you corrected my spelling...C'MON SON!

turbo cool

February 20th, 2010 at 9:10 PM ^

Alright, this is my last response to you because your posts are dumb. But, dude, you were the one who initially attacked any spelling between our posts. So, don't claim that I attacked your spelling because I cannot handle your arguments.


February 20th, 2010 at 9:22 PM ^

I can see where you're coming from but at the same time....if spelling wasn't made into such a big fucking deal on this board (we're M fans right? we're TOO GOOD to make that kind of mistake!) then it would be easier to have a legitimate argument about football... it gets old when half of the posts here veer off into...spelling. this isn't class, this is a football forum.