Did autobench cost us?

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Obviously DJ Wilson can pick up his third foul and we'd be in deep trouble still but did Wilson being on the bench for seven minutes cost us in a one point loss?

JamieH

March 23rd, 2017 at 10:12 PM ^

Wagner shot 3-10, 0-4 from 3.
Rahkman shot 1-6, 0-4 from 3.

Robinson shot 3-8.

 

We lost by ONE POINT.  We needed ONE MORE BUCKET to go in.  It didn't.

When your team is based on shooting well and you don't and you still only lose by 1 point, well, whatever. 

YoOoBoMoLloRoHo

March 23rd, 2017 at 10:16 PM ^

Just a fraction of a difference - and Walton came up short. Oregon seemed to be more athletic and UM never found it's offensive rhythm. Then the 2 late rebounds. It happens in the tourney. Closely matched teams and one shot often separates them.

Maizen

March 23rd, 2017 at 10:45 PM ^

The white collar team from earlier this year showed up. Jack up 31 three pointers, give up two offensive rebounds on FREE THROWS in the finla minute of the game, and turned the ball over at a ridiculous rate. MAAR and Wagner might as well not even have showed up and Duncan was a huge liability on defense. I feel bad for Zak and Derrick because both played their asses off. It was a good season, but we played a bad game and the last minute was absolutely brutal.

I still maintain the recruting needs to get better. We just aren't a deep team and get almost nothing from our bench. That has to change and it starts with recruiting guys who aren't going to take 2-3 years to develop. Just a frustrating end to a great run, because Oregon is nothing special and they were missing their best player and we still couldn't get it done. No excuse to lose that game.

PurpleStuff

March 24th, 2017 at 12:07 AM ^

"Oregon is nothing special" They actually went to the Elite Eight last year and won the PAC-12 over really good Zona and UCLA teams. We need players who don't take "2-3 years to develop" In the last five years we've had 4 sophomores and a junior drafted by the NBA. Caris would've been drafted if he left in 2014, and we have two sophomores on this team we're praying come back. Yet we've won 10 tourney games in those five years. In contrast, Oregon had Brooks and Dorsey return for their junior year's and added a 6th year PG who had played in the tourney at Nova. This guy is a trolling douchebag.

Are You Not En…

March 24th, 2017 at 12:27 AM ^

I don't disagree he generally is a troll when it comes to basketball. The fire Beilein shit is beyond annoying and he's at the head of it.

HOWEVA, I dont have a problem with the idea of recruiting better. Instant impact players do win championships. If we had Bridges or Jackson (both michigan natives) on this team... good lord. If we had devin booker, or james blackmon or Tyus battle... All players we ended up missing on and instead sign Teske and Davis and Watson (who saw zero meaningful minutes and the minutes they did see the looked LOST), who all need development.

Elite talent is important. It does get you to that next step. It is necessary. We are a program that SHOULD attract it. But we miss on soooo many targets. 

No one doubts Beilein's ability to develop, but lets do taht while also getting players like Bridges who need ZERO development and can just dominate.

 

Secondly, when it comes to tonight and this tournament in general, Oregon was nothing special. They were high volume shooters who's defensive prowess (as evidenced by any preview/metric out there) was significantly dashed with the Boucher injury) DJ and Moe should have had mismatch after mismatch on a team that was again man to man adn switching everything for much of the game. It just didnt happen.

But like I said.. sitll very happy with the season when compared to my expecations. But we coludl have done much better which is where i agree with Maizen.

matty blue

March 24th, 2017 at 9:01 AM ^

sure.  i don't think anyone is arguing that recruiting is important.  blah, blah, blah, fine.

but we have had shots at national titles very, very recently (including this season, your constant trolling notwithstanding) with beilein recruiting.  to quote you, "i don't know how anyone could possibly disagree with that sentiment."

Maizen

March 24th, 2017 at 12:37 AM ^

Oregon was nothing special after Boucher went out with the injury. Brian and Ace documented thier defensive woes since that injury and the numbers weren't pretty.

As for the recruiting, the guys you are referring too was one class of players in 10 years. Where were Teske, Davis, and Watson this year? I would throw Simpson in there too but Walton can't play 40 miutes every game so he got some run out of pure necessity. Chatman, Dawkins, and Doyle are gone. More guys that should be helping this team but were misses by Beilein. This team gets almost nothing from it's bench and that's a fact. 

You want to challenege my points, fine, but stop with the name calling, douchebag.

JamieH

March 24th, 2017 at 12:35 AM ^

Michigan wins games by shooting well.  They didn't.  They shot like crap.  And still only lost by 1.

 

What are you going to do?  If you had told me Michigan would shoot that poorly and still have a Derrick Walton jumper to win the game, I'd have taken it.  If Michigan shoots normally they blow Oregon off the floor.  But if Oregon shoots normally they blow us off the floor.  It was just a bad game, and Oregon won it by 1.  They got one more bounce than we did.