Rest of the Afternoon (Big Ten & elsewhere ) Basketball /Bubble Watch Thread

Submitted by B-Nut-GoBlue on

Add in snowflakes from that umm, performance, as well.  Though I'm not sure I want to think much about it; not that I want to think about what lies ahead tomorrow, either. 

On to Indiana and a squad full of athletes + Maxamillion "6th man of the year" Bielfeldt.  Ugh.

 

Go Blue.

BigBlue02

March 10th, 2016 at 3:37 PM ^

We had 2 fewer big 10 wins than Iowa, who some were predicting to walk away with the B10 title and have a deep tourney run midway through the year, and they are ranked in the top 25 while we are apparently on the bubble. We have a much better resume than pretty much every other bubble team

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mfan_in_ohio

March 10th, 2016 at 3:07 PM ^

Probably a 6-7 unless they win today and tomorrow.  Iowa also has two big road wins against MSU and Purdue, while our best road win is against NC State, who won't make the NIT.  They also had a slightly harder conference schedule than we did (they had 2 games each against Indiana and MSU instead of our 2 each against Maryland and Minnesota). 

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mfan_in_ohio

March 10th, 2016 at 4:47 PM ^

I don't think the committee asks "What is mfan_in_ohio's opinion?" Also, if you go back and actually read what I wrote, I wasn't suggesting that Michigan didn't belong in the tournament. I was arguing that 1) Iowa is in no way a 3-4 seed (they are about a 7 if they lose to Illinois today), and 2) that Michigan's resume is less good than theirs.  

I think Michigan's resume compares well with, for example, Vanderbilt, especially if they lose to Tennessee today.  Michigan's problem was a lack of games against NIT-level competition, where they could have (theoretically) padded their record against the top 100.  Same with Syracuse, with their three bad losses.  VCU has two bad losses and their only two wins against tournament teams are against teams on or close to the bubble, so I like our resume compared to theirs.

If we lose tomorrow, there is a chance, as long as those bubble teams all lose, and there are no bid thieves.  Cincinnati really needs to win their conference, and Temple and Tulsa losing would be great.

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WorldwideTJRob

March 10th, 2016 at 3:21 PM ^

Yeah just gloss over the fact they beat us by double-digits twice and have 2 wins against the #2 team in the country. All 21-win teams are not created equal sir. I love the positive attitude but our resumé isn't that great and we have no one to blame but ourselves for going 3-5 down the stretch.



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Kwitch22

March 10th, 2016 at 2:49 PM ^

Still need that win tomorrow. I don't think it will really matter what other teams do if we get it. Otherwise be ready for a long NIT run in front of a half full crowd

lilpenny1316

March 10th, 2016 at 2:54 PM ^

...we should just go on the road, lose, and get the season over.  Between the Red Wings saying "we don't need to upgrade" then fall apart after the trade deadline and this half-interested basketball team, I'm doubling down on the negativity so my hopes don't get crushed.  We win tomorrow and I'll be happy.  We lose and I'll just look forward to a free weekend.

JCV16

March 10th, 2016 at 2:55 PM ^

I give our guys lots of credit for making some big plays down the stretch - but they also messed lots of things up and played soft most of the game. It's on the coaching staff. 

ijohnb

March 10th, 2016 at 2:57 PM ^

also got a lot of bad bounces down the stretch.  Some of it was on the players and failing to take advantage of opportunities, no question and we did get some breaks too.  But it has been a long time since that ball bounced the right way just cuz.

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JCV16

March 10th, 2016 at 3:29 PM ^

Yes there's some luck to it, but it's also an issue of wanting the damn ball. With the exception of Walton, nobody goes after it hard. (Ironic that he was the guy with the brain fart at the end). It's not a coincidence that we corral loose balls at such a low rate.

ijohnb

March 10th, 2016 at 3:39 PM ^

they always, ALWAYS lead to back-breaking results.  Irvin has a steal lined up on OT and literally could have gone the other way for a dunk instead he bobbles it, has to save it, saves it right to Olah, who is pushed by Donnal trying to get the ball, he fouls out,  and it all leads to a Demps three that completely changes the complexion of the game.  W T F ! ?

ijohnb

March 10th, 2016 at 3:03 PM ^

shouldn't have responded like I did, that was a frustrating game and I know what you are saying.  I just think everybody could use to be a little upbeat within our own reality.  Our reality is that we are not very good but we pulled one out today and that means I get to watch at least one more basketball game that I care about this season and that is a good thing. :)  Smiles everybody.

BeatOSU52

March 10th, 2016 at 3:06 PM ^

who is this "Anonymous Coward" with no mgopoints? Is it SectionOne or the GhostofYost?

 

**Edit: nevermind.  When I refereshed this page, it went back to normal with everyone's username showing up .  But that was very weird.

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julesh

March 10th, 2016 at 3:16 PM ^

Though why a 18-13 team who went 9-9 in the SEC of all conferences is more likely to get in than Michigan will never make sense to me.

ijohnb

March 10th, 2016 at 3:23 PM ^

it or not, I think it has to with our own fan base's perception of the team.  We have the resume to get in the tournament and should certainly be in over Florida, Monmouth, Valpo, and a few others, but for the most part we hate our own team right now and I think it is contagious.

Walter Sobchak

March 10th, 2016 at 4:21 PM ^

Seriously, they have no business being in over Michigan. Go to crashingthedance. They have fewer top 25 wins and one >100 loss. And we may get credit for doing it without our All American for half the season.

ak47

March 10th, 2016 at 3:16 PM ^

They blew it, Florida still right there with us.  People also keep forgetting record in your last 10 games matters (it shouldn't but that is a different argument).  Michigan did not finish well.