Brady vs. Manning

Submitted by mgoblue1 on
Tonight's game just furthers my opinion that Brady has had a better career than Manning. 14-4 career playoff record, 3 Super Bowls vs. 9-9 career playoff record, 1 Super Bowl. Manning supporters will surely say something along the lines of, "Peyton is not the one who lost those games, he can't play defense, etc.".. I feel that if quarterbacks receive most of the glory when their teams win Super Bowls, they should shoulder much of the blame when failing. I admit I'm very biased on this topic, living in Indiana but hating the Colts.. combined with loving Michigan football.

Tshimanga Cowabunga

February 8th, 2010 at 2:00 AM ^

Say you bet $1,000 dollars on the AFC in the Pro Bowl (Yea you're an addict at this point). Down 3 points with 2 minutes to play. Which quarterback do you want leading the final drive of the game? While I would be comfortable with Manning, Tom Brady is the guy I would want lining up behind center. He's a winner. Sure, Manning will finish with better career stats, but its hard to compare when the teams have different personnel and offensive schemes. With the game on the line I'm handing the ball to Brady over Manning

anwonadell

February 8th, 2010 at 5:19 AM ^

That's exactly it (although I'd probably bet on a game that the players would want to win more). The thing is, Brady can downright finish games. Manning has some great throws against the Saints, but the pick-six and his inability to put it in at the end were things I have not seen Brady do. While Manning does seem to find a way to make difficult throws, Brady just finds a way to win games. If there's one QB I can choose to lead my team down the field on a potentially game-winning drive, it's Tom Brady every time.

jrt336

February 8th, 2010 at 7:22 AM ^

Brady hasn't won a superbowl with Moss and Welker, correct? He won them with very average receivers like Branch and Brown. The Colt's OLine is far better than the Patriot's OL. Peyton had Harrison forever and still has Wayne.

Twisted Martini

February 8th, 2010 at 7:34 AM ^

Don't know if it is the knee injury, but Brady is literally a statue in the pocket with a cannon for an arm. I mean, no movement, no footwork and then BOOM 60 yards down the field. He throws a better deep ball then Manning. Manning's feet are always moving, and I think he is a better technician than Brady. I'd be happy with either one, and I hope they have some more epic battles in the years to come.

ijohnb

February 8th, 2010 at 8:04 AM ^

different to even really compare, in terms of their strengths and what they are asked to do. Brady is really kind of more comparable to poised and "heady" point guard that carries out a scheme and hits the "big-three" to finish a team when they are down, a lot like Chauncey in the Pistons' rise to prominance. (I know, Chauncey became the anti-this, but I said in their rise to prominance, not in their fall from grace) Manning, on the other hand, dominates the ball and really the direction of the offense with his individual capabilities. His individual talent really IS itself the offensive scheme for Indy. He has proved to be one of the best quarterbacks in history, however, if you figure him out and are able to adjust quickly like the Saints did, you will catch the Colts in a position where they are asked to consider Plan B. Just look at their season rushing statistics, they really don't have a Plan B. All in all, it may be the mother of all cop-outs, but I really think they are dead even in terms of who would I want more. It is a draw.

TorontoBlue

February 8th, 2010 at 8:04 AM ^

Stats Comparison (this is pre-last night's game, so Manning's stats for last night not included): http://www.indystar.com/article/99999999/SPORTS/100205029 Intangible - Brady's married to this: http://www.makeup.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/gisele-bundchen-0… Touchdown Tommy is my choice over Peyton - better regular season record and SIGNIFICANTLY better postseason record. GO BLUE

M-Wolverine

February 8th, 2010 at 9:59 AM ^

The thing that matter for a QB? Winning. Manning .682, .529 playoffs. Brady .764, .778 playoffs. Notice the trend going up or down. (And Brady's percentages are better than Montana's). And if you want to go football stats, the best reflection of a QB? TD-INT ratio. Manning- Regular season: 2-1, Playoffs: 1.5-1. Brady - 2.3-1, 1.9-1. (Montana - RS: 2-1, PO: 2.1-1). Who's clutch? (And I'm not just talking about your tiebreaker at the end...)

M-Wolverine

February 8th, 2010 at 10:04 AM ^

Though I think he's lost like 3 in a row or something... And in some weird circumstances...the blown game this year...the comeback the year the Colts won the title (probably costing Brady ANOTHER title...)...

BeantownBlue

February 8th, 2010 at 9:03 AM ^

Does anybody remember how the Patriots looked before Brady took over in his first season as a starter? They were mediocre at best. He singlehandedly turned them into super bowl champs. His starting WRs and RB that year? David Patten, Troy Brown, and Antowain Smith. Compare that to Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne, and Edgerrin James. Tom Brady has led his teams to 4 Super Bowls and won 3. He is the only quarterback to lead a team to a perfect regular season (in which he put up gaudy numbers that rival any season by Manning). Peyton has led much more talented teams to 2 Super Bowls and won 1. He SINGLE HANDEDLY LOST last night's game. Are we really comparing these two players? Peyton may eventually win a couple more Super Bowls and enter the coversation. But until then, there's no comparison. (BTW-- Brady: Still underappreciated by UM fans after all these years...)

MGOSAIL

February 8th, 2010 at 9:25 AM ^

I really think that it comes down to who you would want leading your team. There is no question I would prefer Brady everytime. He wins the big games when it really matters, and makes everyone around himself better. Peyton makes his receivers better, but Brady makes his entire team better, and has a much better leadership ability. And a hot wife.

TorontoBlue

February 8th, 2010 at 9:49 AM ^

Brady's 14-4 in playoff games, while Manning is 9-9. Brady's Superbowl Passing TD-to-interception ratio is 7-1, while Manning's is 2-2. Manning has only been in half the Superbowls as Brady but has managed to throw more interceptions. Manning has bigger numbers, but he has 4.5 more seasons of production than Brady (Manning started '98 season, Brady started partially thru '01 season and was injured all of '08). Brady's three Super Bowl wins all came before he had Randy Moss or Wes Welker, remember who he was throwing to. . . . .while Peyton has Pro Bowl receivers consistently.

Twisted Martini

February 8th, 2010 at 10:55 AM ^

I saw him beat ND in person, and his efforts all year would have landed us in the NC game if Lloyd hadn't played Henson so much in the MSU game. What he did against ND, PSU, OSU and Bama is the stuff of legend.

Blue Ninja

February 8th, 2010 at 12:21 PM ^

Both are great QB's and as a pure passer you can't get much better than Manning. As much as he studies the game and film he could probably make a great coach if wants to go that route. But what he does not have is that killer instinct when the game is on the line and it means something. I'm sure all of us who have played sports knows guys of both ilks. Guys who have great talent and ability but have trouble getting it done when it matters and then there are the guys who may or may not be the best player out there, but when the game is on the line you can depend on them being money and getting it done....thats what Brady is.

funkywolve

February 8th, 2010 at 2:02 PM ^

I'm not sure Peyton ends up with the all records. I think Peyton ends up with the TD's. He's only about 130 behind Favre. For passing yards, Peyton's over 19,000 yds behind Favre. Manning's average about 4200 yds/season the last 3 years. Completions: Manning is 1800 behind Favre. The last 3 years Manning has averaged about 370 completions/yr. Assuming Favre retires this off-season Manning would need another 5 really good years to pass Favre in yards and completions.

jb5O4

February 8th, 2010 at 4:23 PM ^

The best QB ever debate is a very interesting one. If David Tyree does not make the catch I dont there would be an argument about the best ever. Both are outstanding but I would like to add one point to Brady's credit: Manning has done what he's done in a dome stadium. I know he plays road games but at least 9 of his games a year are in a dome (division rival Houston plays in a dome). Brady has lead a pass heavy offense in a poor weather climate. No cold climate team has been so successful throwing the ball in those conditions.

NOLA Wolverine

February 8th, 2010 at 4:27 PM ^

Tom Brady wins the big games, and plays very well in those situations. Wether it may be more of X's and Z's fault, the only thing people remember is the result. If I'm in a big time situation, I'm praying for Tom Brady to appear (Or for that matter, Adam Vinatieri, he's had a hand in Tom's glowing record if memory serves me right).

Swayze Howell Sheen

February 8th, 2010 at 4:58 PM ^

i don't think you can count those 3 SBs too much, given that the Patriots were likely stealing calls during all three. Not saying that Brady isn't great (he is), but it is a lot easier to be great when the play calls are just that little bit smarter than usual. As for the super bowl: The real result was that the Saints coaching staff way outperformed the Colts staff. Manning was good but not good enough to overcome that.