April 10th, 2015 at 11:07 PM ^
They are going to be good next year, with Valentine and the two instant impact recruits. They will give Maryland a run for their money
April 10th, 2015 at 11:13 PM ^
April 10th, 2015 at 11:25 PM ^
It kills me they also have Eron Harris next year, he would have been perfect for Beilein's offense.
April 10th, 2015 at 11:52 PM ^
Yet, MSU has more players in the NBA...
April 11th, 2015 at 12:31 AM ^
Oops. I think you are mistaken. Sports started in 2008 according to MSU. Everything that happened in 2007 and earlier is irrelevant.
April 11th, 2015 at 11:36 AM ^
That might have a bit to do with the fact that we had Ellerbe and Amaker as our coaches for 10 years. Not a lot of player development happened that decade.
April 11th, 2015 at 12:33 AM ^
Booooo.
April 11th, 2015 at 12:52 AM ^
Then some reporters caught wind of the California package deal thing and went with it and everyone followed claiming they had "insider" information.
This wasn't a surprise to anyone who actually followed his recruitment. Davis has been steering Swanigan toward MSU ever since they started playing together a couple years ago.
An angry dwarf, yes. But a cheat? Nah.
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reference . We will still beat Sparty next year with all their "superior" talent. Beilein has done it before and Beilein will do it again. Look how many 4 and 5 stars were on their roster in 2011 and our zero stars of Zack and Stu went out out and beat them twice that year.
In order to be a good team you have to have good point guard play. MSU is overlooking not having 4 year point guard Travis Trice next year. They may have all these big guys, but no one will be able to get them the ball. I think they will be good, but all of Izzo's good teams have had outstanding point guard play, and I don't know who they will have to fill that void next year.
He's a pass first point gaurd and started at the one the second half of the season because Trice wasn't a true point guard.
Kid can't shoot a lick, but he breaks a defense down good and finds the open guy. If he doesn't develop a shot I'm not sure that will matter because teams played like 10 feet off of him all year just daring him to shoot.
April 11th, 2015 at 10:12 AM ^
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April 11th, 2015 at 10:30 AM ^
Impressive haul by Sparty, I wish we had converted our title run into such recruiting success.
But I love our team next year, especially if Caris comes back. OSU just had a super class that was a lot of noise.
Unfortunantely, with Izzo's track record these guys are going to burry us their senior years.
April 11th, 2015 at 10:45 AM ^
April 11th, 2015 at 11:07 AM ^
April 11th, 2015 at 11:31 AM ^
Not by a long shot, but he's definitely in the tier immediately below the top elite names. You don't get to as many Final Fours as he has if you're not an outstanding coach, and if you think otherwise you're an idiot. That's as stupid an argument as saying Schembechler wasn't a great coach because he never won a NC or had a lousy bowl record.
April 11th, 2015 at 11:46 AM ^
It's great reading this board. I didn't realize how crappy Izzo is, or how bad it is to get to 7 final fours. Glad you guys straightened me out with that stuff. I just hope Izzo has some type of success before he leaves MSU. Sick of his mediocre stuff.
Remember, we're not a rival of yours.
April 11th, 2015 at 11:54 AM ^
So in other words, you're admitting that you're (there's that word again) the kind of juvenile, semi-literate spankweasel who thinks that recognizing an opposing coach's abilities and record makes you his "fan."
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April 11th, 2015 at 12:12 PM ^
April 11th, 2015 at 12:07 PM ^
How do you want Izzo to twist it? It sounds like you might be one of those guys who hangs on every word he says and then jumps up and down in anger and says "See, see!! right there he said that but this is so".
I guess I don't much care what he says, as long as he makes final fours and the NCAA tournament and gets to 7 of the last 8 sweet 16's, and does it the right way. I know you can remember how much fun the NCAA tournament is when your team made those two incredible runs in 13 & 14. Yeah, that's a blast, and Izzo gets us there so often we're all addicted to it. Call me crazy, but no matter what he says or how he "twists" it, I'm thinking we have another pretty good chance at doing it again.
So, if he says something that upsets you, I"m truly sorry. I like the angry little Italian elf. He's great to watch during a game. Funny as heck.
April 11th, 2015 at 12:46 PM ^
April 11th, 2015 at 12:56 PM ^
I would have never know this if I had not read it here.
Izzo will find a way to keep Davis and Swanigan in town for 3-4 years just like Branden Dawson, Adreian Payne, Paul Davis, Kalin Lucas, Shannon Brown, and Maurice Ager.
D. Davis is about the same tier recruit as Dawson and Payne. (Ager and Lucas weren't even low five stars much less All Americans so they probably shouldn't be in this conversation.) And just like Dawson and Payne, the NBA won't come calling unless he develops a three point shot. He's a four year guy IMO and again like Dawson and Payne needs to improve in a ton of aspects before even being considered an NBA candidate.
Swanigan though is more of an elite recruit like Randolph, Richardson, P. Davis, Taylor, Brown, and Harris. Since he reclassified to 2015 instead of sticking in the class of 2016 he'll probably need at least two years but like all of those guys mentioned (except P. Davis) he'll probably end up leaving early even if it takes him three years.