OT: How does one get into craft beer?

Submitted by dupont circle on

Am I the only one that gets overwhelmed when shopping for beer or browsing a tap list? It seems the trend at restaurants is to carry 37 seasonal limited edition locally sourced beers on tap, changing weekly. At the grocery or beer store there are 100s of options from small to medium sized brewers. Wine feels immensely more approachable, in comparison. I don't want to become a fanatic, but I'd like to be more confident and understand a little more. And supporting local products is always cool. But how is it even possible with this trend seemingly overheating and new product pumping out constantly?

I picked up a case of Bell's Hopslam last month and it was pretty good. It didn't blow my mind (I think it was supposed to?). Also, I can't really do super dark beers after developing a taste aversion from too many car bomb blackout nights during understand.

itself

March 9th, 2015 at 9:00 PM ^

Go to a bar that specializes in craft beer and ask the bartender what they would recommend. Strike up a conversation. Dont let some sense of pride or shame get in your way. Theyre happy to talk about what theyre into especially if youre interested and you are. Best of luck to you. 

dupont circle

March 9th, 2015 at 11:06 PM ^

I drink everything. I drink a lot of Oberon in the summer. I just haven't been able to get interested in craft beer enough to recall what I drink and develop an appreciation. I've had many decent craft beers, but picking a "best"? Difficult.

What did you mean by "Also, if you started with Hopslam youll be just fine," though? As in most amateurs aren't able to drink super hoppy stuff? It was good to me. But again, all due respect, it wasn't "OMG best thing" ever good.

gbdub

March 10th, 2015 at 10:50 AM ^

Hopslam (and similar hop bombs like Stone Ruination or Lagunitas Hop Stoopid) are deliberately over the top, and will taste very bitter and one-note until you have a bit of a tolerance (and even then, they aren't to everyone's taste).

It's sort of like "nuclear" buffalo wings: any brave fool can stomach them, but it takes an aficionado to really enjoy them.



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gbdub

March 10th, 2015 at 11:56 AM ^

I don't know - how drunk were you when you drank them?

Do you tend to like (or at least not be bothered by) other really bitter foods (black coffee, very dark chocolate, orange peel, bitter greens)? Could be you just have a low sensitivity to bitter flavors.

FWIW, Hopslam is finished with a lot of Simcoe hops. Simcoe seems to be a variety with pretty high variance in opinions - a lot of people love it, a lot of people hate it, some insist it tastes like cat pee.



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gbdub

March 10th, 2015 at 1:01 PM ^

Bell's director of operations John Mallett on Hopslam: “I’m going to have a beer that we make 4,000 barrels of, one time a year. It flies off the shelf at damn near $20 a six-pack, and you know what it smells like? It smells like your cat ate your weed and then pissed in the Christmas tree.”



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Bigasshammm

March 9th, 2015 at 9:08 PM ^

It's all in personal taste preference. They're all generally different takes on the same kinda of beers. Your IPAs, ales, lagers, etc. Find something you like then try different breweries examples of that style.

I like IPAs and there's probably hundreds out there to chose from. Most taste generally the same but subtly different. Your pallet will improve over time.

GoBlueBorderBattle

March 9th, 2015 at 9:24 PM ^

There is no right or wrong way to get into it. Buy a beer because it has cool art work or you like the way the name sounds, if you like it remember the style or brewery and buy more. If not, go buy some more until you find a something you like. Generally most people that appreciate beer while eventually learn to appreciate all beer wether it's dark/light, hoppy or malty. You'll get there. Just have fun with it.

GoBlueBorderBattle

March 9th, 2015 at 9:32 PM ^

Just remember to stay a "beer lover" and don't become a "beer snob". It's very possible to love beer and everything about it, without becoming a pretentious d-bag. Remember at the end of the day its just barely, malt and yeast. Just enjoy it.

UMfan21

March 9th, 2015 at 9:37 PM ^

Experiment and make note of the styles you like.  When you find a good one, check out the info online from beer advocate.  Try to find similar beers to see if you can find one "style" that you prefer (ie Sout, Porter, Lager, Ale, IPA, wheat beer, etc).  Once you find a style you can experiment quite a bit within that style.

Personally I love ales, but not IPAs.  So I look for ales with lower IBUs (bitterness).  I also found that I'm not really a fan of citrus flavors in my beer, so I rule those ones out.  I have a pretty good success rate finding beers I like knowing a few things like that.  

Once you get to that point, having 37 flavors on tap is awesome because you know what style you like, and you will have lots of new choices.

FauxMichBro

March 9th, 2015 at 9:45 PM ^

go to escondido, visit stone brewery; then swing by the store and grab whatever shit budweiser is selling, drink it, and finally you'll understand.

claire

March 9th, 2015 at 9:46 PM ^

also consider getting in on the front end and grow your own hops and become a celebrated brew master. Beware though...Brewer's droop...it might change your life

FauxMichBro

March 9th, 2015 at 9:53 PM ^

some breweries will sell clones of their hop plants, if that's something you're getting into now...some can be pretty nasty, so not a bad idea to get a known quantity

CoachBP6

March 9th, 2015 at 10:08 PM ^

They have all sorts of cool websites that rank beers via taste testing and various competitions. I would say go to google and type in IPA craft beer rankings or lager craft beer ratings or whichever type of beer you fancy. Make a list and go through trial and error til you find a few you really like. Many stores have create your own 6 or 12 pack so you can mix and match.

VectorVictor05

March 9th, 2015 at 10:13 PM ^

Well, does DuPont circle mean you live in DC? If so, do yourself a favor and go to Church Key (in Logan Circle at the corner of 14th and Rhode Island). Huge tap list and a ton of bottles available. Beer is organized by flavors to make it a bit more approachable. Best craft beer bar in the district in my opinion. And they carry a lot of Michigan beers, which is always good. They serve 4 oz. glasses for a decent price of you wanna try a bunch. Hell, if you're up for it I'll buy your first few tasters since I live close by.

They also have awesome bar food and the owners brew their own beer and sell it out of Bluejacket in SE DC by Nats stadium. Oh, and they have temp controlled tap lines so each beer is served at the exact temp it's supposed to be served.

sadeto

March 9th, 2015 at 10:19 PM ^

expand your palette first, not just your exposure to craft beers. there is a broad range of beers on the spectrum, craft and mass produced. read Michael Jackson's book. I learned at a very young age by working in a pub in London, then a brasserie in Paris, then a transvestite cabaret in West Berlin. I was exposed to many things, bitters, real ales, stouts besides Guinness, flemish sours, koelsch and weissbock and of course large german men in sequined gowns impersonating Marlene Dietrich.

TheSacko221

March 9th, 2015 at 10:47 PM ^

It is much like anything. You acquire a taste for it. At first you're not sure about it because it taste bitter or to coffee tasting. Then you slowly find yourself tasting other parts of it. It is kind of like someone who is into wine. Your palette adjusts. The only issue is you better go all in because once you do Light Beers taste like water or simply shit.

OysterMonkey

March 9th, 2015 at 10:56 PM ^

I'd echo the advice to explore different brewers' takes on a style you like.

Also good to remember that it's ok if there are some styles you just don't like. For me that's the Belgians. Bananas and cloves and grandma perfume. Not my thing.

Roc Blue in the Lou

March 9th, 2015 at 11:39 PM ^

How do i always get into these MOST delicious of threads at, like, #161...guess my free blog timing is WAYYYYY off!  But, damn, when it comes to craft beers, just try them...dark, light, bitter, hoppy, sweet, fruity, stout, earthy, tangy...whatev...and take note of your very own, unique palate!!  I am fond of many varieties at any given time, and am currently smitten with West Sixth Brewing out of Lexington, KY.  Nice, flavorful IPA and a summer time favorite is their Lemongrass American Wheat.  But, that's my palate.  Go, explore my friend...just stay thirsty.

getsome

March 9th, 2015 at 11:42 PM ^

hit a beer festival in your town or area - you can walk around to different breweries and sample anything you want (and discuss beers with the reps if youre that interested).  this would be cheapest way to sample as many as possible, walk around with mini cups and sip em all - plus they typically have music, food trucks, etc, just a real good time.  

or find a package store that allows you to build your own 24 - and whether based on recommendations of friends / coworkers / store employee / bloggers, etc or based on brewers youve previously enjoyed, just throw a bunch of options into a case - great way to stock your fridge with up to 24 different brews.  and obviously breweries sell variety packs (ie 4 different 6-packs) so thats another option.  

ask bartenders / servers when youre out if youre looking for recommendations.  find out what you enjoy most and go from there (ie avoiding the darkest brews in your case).  youre right though, bw local and more national crafts and the standard domestics / imports, theres plenty of options when out and about

bluecanuck

March 10th, 2015 at 12:54 AM ^

Sounds like you already have an idea what you like and don't like so that's a good start. Id suggest a couple of things: 1) find a good local brewery that gets good reviews. Go there at a not super busy time and sidle up to the bar. Get a sampler of everything they make and ask the bartender as many questions as you like about each beer and type. Pretty soon you'll learn what you really like and are interested in exploring more of. There are a few basic types of beer with many many variations. If you can learn the basics you won't be nearly intimidated at stores. 2) go to a good beer store, not a grocery store or corner store but a real store where they know what they're talking about. Ask around for a good recommendation (maybe even at the brewery). When you are there, let them know what you like and ask for some recommendations. Try a lot of different types. Once you get familiar you'll know what you like and don't even more and won't be nearly intimidated.

Oh and don't be afraid to pick up a random bottle because you like the name or the label. You can find a lot of good beer that way.



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imafreak1

March 10th, 2015 at 10:08 AM ^

The first thing you have to do is learn styles and breweries.

From scanning this thread, it sounds like you like IPAs and hoppier stuff rather than roasty or malty stuff. So, start with those. Church Key has a listing of "hoppy" to make it easy.

Walking into a bottle shop or beer bar can be very confusing because there are so many options. Truthfully, a great many of those options aren't very good and you will be fooled by marketting. Gravitate towards certain breweries (suggestions below) and ignore ones you don't know. Or better yet, remember the name and look them up later.

I use beer advocate to look up beers and breweries. I rarely buy anything w/o knowing about it first. My rule of thumb is if it is not close to a 90 (like 88 and up) on the 100 scale or a 4 on the 5 point scale then I will ignore it unless there is some other reason for buying it. Tons of breweries make beers that rate in the mid 3's or low 80s. Ignore those breweries until you know more.

There is a ton of beer and breweries that you can and should just ignore.

Price is not a reliable indicator of quality.

Luckily for you, there are two local-ish breweries that do great things with hops. DC Brau is in the District and has four great beers with increasing taste--The Public, The Citizen, Corruption, and then the famous rain maker On the Wings of Armagedon (OTOWA is the shorthand). All of those but the OTOWA are readily available in cans around the District. Three Stars Brewing is also local and good but they don't do hops as well as DC Brau. They have a beer called Madness out right now that is awesome. But it is dark and silky and maybe not what you prefer. Right Proper Brewing is not far from DuPont and good. It is a destination place. I don't think they sell beer in stores yet.

The other suggestion I have is Dogfish Head. It is easily available. Again in increasing flavor, 60 Minute, 75 Minute, 90 Minute, and then the weirdo 120 Minute. You can use those as a scale to see what you like. The Dogfish Head IPAs have more of a malty backbone than some others that increases with the number so you can use that to rate your interest in malts.

If you got to Nats games, they have stands that sell beers from all the local breweries (DC Brau, 3 Stars, the Fox one--Sly or Mad?--Port City, etc.) Try those.

Other breweries that are easily available and pretty reliable are Founders, Bells, Lagunitas, and Stone. That should get you started.

DarkWolverine

March 10th, 2015 at 12:45 PM ^

Also In DC Area
Pizza Paradiso has great pizza and pretty good beer selections from a variety of styles. You could start with some of the more popular of the craft brewers and go from there. Suggest Bell's, Shorts and Founder's from MI. Rogue from Oregon. Bear Republic and Stone from CA. Heavy Seas and Dogfish Head from mid-Atlantic. RFD near Chinatown has a wide selection.



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