OT - Okie State's Marcus Smart shoves fan
February 9th, 2014 at 4:37 PM ^
The real issue is that the arena has a responsibility to remove fans that go too far. Texas Tech basically admitted that this "super fan" has caused trouble in the past - why is he still there? If something is not acceptable to say in the workplace then it probably doesnt belong court-side. Security shouldn't be allowing that garbage.
February 9th, 2014 at 4:48 PM ^
Orr's turn. If it is determined Orr's comments were racist, Tech needs to show class and not let that douche go to another home game.
February 9th, 2014 at 6:07 PM ^
February 9th, 2014 at 6:09 PM ^
February 10th, 2014 at 9:48 AM ^
February 9th, 2014 at 6:40 PM ^
They're the loudmouths who abusively berate the officials at high school hockey games, scream obscenities at the umps and opposing players at T-ball games, and drunkenly taunt opposing fans after MLB games. They brag to their families and friends about their exploits, and consider themselves Alpha-males because they act like raging dickheads.
In other words, they're Randy Marsh, only it's not funny in reality.
Smart will get punished for his actions, and I have no problem with that; you can't allow large, powerful men to attack gutless sacks of shit-filled suet sitting in the stands, however justified it might seem at the time.
Just to reiterate, Jeff Orr is a gutless sack of shit-filled suet.
February 9th, 2014 at 7:12 PM ^
Smart lied. The guy called him a ''piece of crap''. Both guys are wrong. You're a jackass if you verbally taunt college kids from the stands, and you're a jackass for letting it get to you so much AND falsely accusing someone of saying a racial slur.
February 9th, 2014 at 7:44 PM ^
February 9th, 2014 at 7:16 PM ^
It appears Smart lied. If that person in the video calling him "a piece of crap" is Orr as it presumably is, then Smart is an even worse person for falsely claiming he threw a racial slur.
February 9th, 2014 at 8:37 PM ^
Kind of like falsely accusing someone of rape, it does a disservice to actual victims.
February 9th, 2014 at 9:15 PM ^
Orr has every incentive to lie to save what little skin he has left. Why is everyone assuming he's telling the truth and Smart made it up? You're going to take the word of a repeated jackass like Orr for what reason again?
February 9th, 2014 at 9:29 PM ^
February 9th, 2014 at 9:35 PM ^
he was going to get suspended regardless so it's not like it helped him. He told the coach's and refs almost immediately that Orr used a racial slur and a broadcaster heard this also. I highly doubt he decided to make that up within the what 15 seconds?
It's possible that Smart misheard given the situation but it seems unlikely that he outright fabricated it.
February 10th, 2014 at 12:50 PM ^
At that point he may have thought claiming a racial slur would result in a penalty that's less harsh. And 15 seconds is more than enough time to think of that.
February 10th, 2014 at 2:31 AM ^
I don't think anyone is being that unfair to Marcus Smart given that the preponderance of evidence, with the exception of Smart's sole account of the event, bears no evidence of Mr. Orr using a racial slur.
February 10th, 2014 at 9:36 AM ^
I'm not saying it's not possible that Orr didn't use a racial slur. My contention was that I don't think Smart outright made up a lie to cover his ass. Maybe it's possible he THOUGHT he heard a racial slur only to be mistaken. I just don't think that in the heat of that moment (fouling a guy, loss sealed, altercation was a fan, he was heated up) that the first thought on his mind was "Shit, let me make up a lie so I look good". He alleged that the slur was uttered almost immediately. Again, I think it's definitely possible Smart misheard it if Orr is actually telling the truth but given how quickly Smart made the allegation and the rest of the circumstances, I don't think he outright made it up.
February 10th, 2014 at 2:50 AM ^
Smart lost his cool and shoved a fan who (as the evidence currently suggests) called him a "piece of crap". He then used racism to deflect attention away from his personal failures, but made Mr. Orr to be perceived as a racist in the process.
Both of these young athletes need to man up and take responsibility for their actions. By not admiring failure, but instead cowering behind the front of racism, they are not only ruining the lives of others, but are causing significant strain among race relations and are minimizing the significant problem that real racism still has in our culture.
February 9th, 2014 at 9:55 PM ^
Sure Smart is wrong, but not that wrong. A shove and a walk away isn't that bad. It wouldn't even get a flag in a many football games.
February 10th, 2014 at 9:55 AM ^
February 9th, 2014 at 10:58 PM ^
I don' t think that video helped resolve anything. Thanks for posting it, though.
February 9th, 2014 at 11:28 PM ^
Tech, and others, are saying this video supports Orr's claim that he said "piece of crap". I'm not sure, it's hard to discern what he is saying, at least to my not so young ears.
February 10th, 2014 at 9:48 AM ^
I could clearly here somebody yell "piece of crap". Whether it was Orr or not remains to be seen.
February 10th, 2014 at 10:10 AM ^
honestly? you dont?
Does it make me a racist to think he lied about being called the n-word when there is overwhelming evidence that supports this stance?
February 10th, 2014 at 1:03 PM ^
Has anyone besides Smart claimed they heard the n-bomb?