Should MBB be ranked?

Submitted by kirtip on

Pretty straightforward question. Wanted to know what people think. Currently they are not ranked in the top 25 of either the AP or the Coaches poll. 

However, we are ranked 15th in the Sagarin ratings and 21 in the BPI.

Most importantly, we sit on top of the B1G along with MSU, with key wins against Minnesota on the road, FSU at a neutral site, and a current 6 game win streak, 4 of which were conference games. 

Our 4 losses include #8 Iowa State on the road, #23 Duke on the road, and a 2 point loss at home to #1 Arizona, and one bad loss the Charlotte.

Michigan has the 18th hardest schedule in the NCAA.

In my opinion, they deserved to be ranked around 20 or so. What do you think?

JHendo

January 16th, 2014 at 5:21 PM ^

I feel like we have proven ourselves as one of the 25 best teams in the country.  However, a few factors are clearly pulling us down in the voters eyes: how bad our loss to Charlotte was, the loss of Mitch, the lack of credit we get for losing to an ISU team that turned out to be pretty darn good (to go along with our two other respectable losses), and just the general mindset that we are nowhere near the quality of team the media initially predicted.  

These factors make it a no brainer to leave us out of the rankings until we get a signature win, even though there is little doubt that there are not 25 teams that can beat us.  Once we get that big win (without another embarrassing loss), we're in the rankings.

jdib

January 16th, 2014 at 5:41 PM ^

I actually like them playing unranked.  With the gauntlet coming up as mentioned, i'd like to beat the MSU's and OSU's with as much underdog perspective as possible.    All they need to do is focus on each game at a time.  With the schedule they are going to go through, if played well, the ranking will come.  JUST WIN BABY!

TheGeneral

January 16th, 2014 at 7:11 PM ^

Why is there such a need in sports talk to make things fit into the frame fans want? For example. Ohio hires Larry Johnson and Michigan fans are like meh, good hire. That's completely phony, if Michigan had hire LJ Michigans fanbase would be doing back flips. Here it's rankings don't matter, that's BS to fit the fact we aren't ranked. We need to get ranked and we need to overachieve this year for perception of the program. We are not a power, to become a power we have to perform like one. Stop making everything fit your views and be honest.

burtcomma

January 16th, 2014 at 8:03 PM ^

We were ranked fairly high early on this season before our losses to Charlotte and ISU.  My reality is that the top for this team is likely to be a 1st division finish in the B1G (top 5?) and a sweet 16 appearance given what we have seen so far this basketball year to date.  Anything beyond that would be very surprising to me.  However, we have some games coming against MSU, Wisconsin, OSU, and Iowa that will tell us whether we have improved enough to do better than this.  

 

jmblue

January 17th, 2014 at 8:41 AM ^

Polls don't matter in basketball.  That's not a rationalization - it's fact.  They hold no influence over the selection committee.  The RPI does matter, though.

As for us being over the moon if we hired Johnson, yeah, that's probably true, but that's an example of the phenomenon you describe in the other direction.  People would be building him up into more than he was.  He's just a position coach, and PSU's D-lines haven't been all that great under his watch.  His main trump card is in recruiting, but neither Michigan nor OSU has struggled in that regard.

TheGeneral

January 18th, 2014 at 6:29 PM ^

It's quite simply not a "fact". Polls matter to recruits. If we're top 5 every week of every year we have a shot with every kid in the country. We're not so we don't. Polls matter. I get your point that the RPI determines your tourney situation. But there is more going on than that. You don't just recruit in March.

Steves_Wolverines

January 16th, 2014 at 10:35 PM ^

Looks like that win @ Minnesota is a better win than some may have thought. That ohio team sure is struggling right now against the Gopghers. 

Also, how about all these low scoring games in the Big-10 lately. Ill/NW, NW/MSU, and now OSU/Minn.