Monday Presser Transcript 11-25-13: Brady Hoke Comment Count

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"And so we beat on, boats against the current, borne back ceaselessly into the past. 

Opening remarks:

"Thanks for coming. This is one of the weeks in football where if you are passionate about the University of Michigan or passionate about Ohio, which is exciting. We are excited. We had a chance to get together as a team. It's such a great rivalry that we’re very fortunate to be able to play in and to be able to coach in. This is a week that gets everybody involved: media, fans, all those people. Everybody has an opinion, which is good. It's good for the game because the game is talked about. It's going to be a lot of fun on Saturday to play the football game."

Injury updates on linebackers and Devin Gardner?

"They're all going to be fine. All three of them."

Expect them to play Saturday?

“Oh yeah.”

What do you think needs to turn around on the offense?

"Consistency. We get a nine-yard gain and then take a step back. Or we have good protection and don't finish the throw, or don’t execute the throw, or don’t catch the football, which is all part of it. That’s all part of execution. The rhythm you need to have from an offensive perspective has to be more consistent. The kids are working, believe me. They're working. They want to find that rhythm as an offense and run the football and be able to play-action pass and do the things that have been very good to us at times."

Is this the kind of game where you’re likely to take more chances?

"You talking about down and distances? I think you go into every game, and you try to look at the pluses and minuses. You try and do a good job with a good plan in all three phases of the game. There’s always different outside factors that may dictate things: injuries, wind, weather, all those kinds of things. You always go in, but you have to have a contingency plan, whatever that might be."

How is your team mentally at this point?

"Good. We practiced this morning, and they were very good."

Can you talk about the decision to play Kyle Kalis to right guard?

"Well, he had earned it. It's really no bigger decision than that. He had earned it. He had done a good job in the week. They evaluated him. Thought it would be good for the other Kyle, for Bosch, to take a step back and watch a little bit and keep learning. And I think that's what Kalis did."

Why him at right guard and Magnuson at left guard?

"Well, Mags came in here as a left tackle, and he's been on the left side more. More comfortable for Kalis on the right side? Yes. Magnuson is pretty adaptable and can do both, but he has been a left tackle, so it worked out well."

Impressions of Ohio State?

"Well, they have a very good football team. They have four out of five offensive linemen that are seniors. They have a lot of veterans who have played a lot of snaps. Their running back is leading the Big Ten. He's a good running back. He's a guy who can break tackles. You've got to make sure you get hats to the ball. Their quarterback has played well; he's throwing the ball a little better. They have good wide receivers and are explosive offensively. Back end defensively is a good back end. They are aggressive in what they do. I think that Shazier is one of the better linebackers in this league. Finds ways to get to the football. Good instincts. They are a good football team."

On film, do they look like the best team you’ve faced?

"Probably so."

How has Chris Wormley rehabbed this season?

"Chris has done a real good job. I think that missing last fall and being limited at times in the spring obviously hurt a guy in terms of the experiences of one play after another play. I think Chris has taken some real positive steps. He's played better in every football game, and he's playing faster. I think that when a guy starts to play faster like that you get the idea that he feels more confident in how he is playing."

Ohio State is the heavy favorite. What do you say to people who think Michigan has no shot in this game?

"Number one, I would say that we are going to play the game on Saturday, and that's why we're playing it. This game has always been different in some ways. Are they a good football team? Yeah. They’re a very good football team. Do we have to play better than we've played? I don't think there's any doubt about that, and we've got to be more consistent, and we’ve got to finish things better. It's what makes it so much fun."

Where do you see areas where your team has improved?

"I think that defensively we've improved as the year’s gone on. I think we have some of the young guys, the Chris Wormleys of the world. I think the three guys in the interior of the line are making an improvement. I would say those two areas."

Ohio State leads the Big Ten in points. Can you win a shootout against this team?

"I think the answer to that is however we have to try and get it done to win."

Will a win over Ohio State erase your struggles this season?

"No, that never happens. But this game is for our seniors. We’re going to honors those kids on Saturday. It is always important to win these types of game for those fourth- and fifth-year guys that have given a lot to this university and this program. For them, it’s always good if you win that game, because that's what guys talk about."

How quickly did Magnuson adapt to switching over, and how did you think the new interior line looked?

"It was probably a little better overall. For Magnuson, playing left tackle, that stance wasn't that big a deal. He has been early in the process and has played almost every position but center at some point. I think it was flawless to be honest with you."

How would you assess Devin Gardner’s performance through 11 games so far?

"He has had some really good moments and some moments that he'd rather redo if he could. I think we all have that. I do as a head coach. There’s always moments that you think about and think well maybe you should have done this. But the one thing about Devin is that he’s been pretty resilient. He’s a guy that comes to work every day and prepares to get ready to play and play his best."

You’ve talked about the lack of consistency. How do you coach consistency? That’s kind of difficult, isn’t it?

"I don't know if it's difficult; when you look at the little things that you have to do to have discipline to be consistent. And those are things that you are coaching every day, whether it be your footwork, whether it be a stance, ball security, or whatever it might be. Those are the things that you demand every day so that they become great habits and consistent."

You always say the goal is to win the Big Ten. Where are you right now with this program in three years? Does this game change when your goals have to shift?

"Well the number one goal has always been to play for our seniors and to do everything we can as coaches and as underclassmen, that we represent them. At the same time, the seniors have to do a great job representing that senior class. Is the goal always to win the Big Ten championship? No question about it. And we won't make excuses nor back down from it. Have we played and coached as well as we've needed to? Obviously not. And those are things that we've got to keep going and keep working every day because that's all you can do."

What are the keys on both sides of the ball to win on Saturday, and how confident are you that you can win?

"I am very confident that we can win, or we wouldn't play. I'd call down there to Columbus and say that we won't do it. Number one, we have to stay away from negative plays offensively. You've got to manage the manageables when you look at down and distance. Negative plays, taking care of the football, trying to steal a possession by a turnover. Defensively, the running game is going to be a big part of it. It always has. So we've got to do a great job in the rushing game and try to create longer distances for them."

What’s your earliest memory of this game?

"Oh gee. Every year I get older, so it gets a little harder. Watching the game on TV, you know. Black and white. I mean … Coach Hayes. I really respected Coach Hayes."

Comments

Cranky Dave

November 26th, 2013 at 11:20 AM ^

How much of the individual inconsistency comes from making multiple changes in the interior of the line? Cycling through Bryant, Magnuson, Bosch, Kalis and Miller while switching positions surely adds to that.

Is Funk making those decisions alone, or with Borges and Hoke?

Space Coyote

November 26th, 2013 at 11:34 AM ^

I would say it's certainly a part of it, which is why this staff was so hesitany to make changes last year. How much is difficult to say. 

As for who makes the decision, it's probably a combination of the 3. But I'd say Funk has by far the most weight into that decision, followed by Borges, and then Hoke. Because Hoke doesn't really work directly with the OL, he isn't really in a position to say who is performing better than others. His input into the decision is along the lines of "make changes if you feel it's best for the team" or "don't make changes right now". Borges is kind of the same thing but to a little lesser degree. Funk is the one that will actually evaluate them in practice.

FWIW, I had a head coach undermine me as a position coach early in my career when I was working with DBs. I had one kid that was really athletic but hated contact, struggled with technique, and didn't really want to be there (he wanted to run track). I had another that wasn't as athletic, but wasn't bad, was learning technique well, and in my opinion played better within the system. Well, the HC wanted to more athletic guy to play because he was a better athlete. Kid got burned for a couple TDs in the next game (it was toward the end of the season), quit football after that year, and the kid I wanted to play was the starter the next year when they moved up to Varsity. That happened several times with that HC before I moved on because he was undermining my evaluation at the detriment of the team (he wasn't working with them in practice). I think it is very wrong for a HC to do that consistently.

Cranky Dave

November 26th, 2013 at 11:55 AM ^

I would have thought on decision making especially with Hoke's CEO/delegator personality.  Getting undermined like in your example can suck the life out of people in any situation.  There has to be a very hard conversation though after the season to evaluate how those decidions worked out.

In my admittedly dated experience  the constant shuffling of personnel and positions is very challenging.   Not just physically and mentally but emotionally/confidence wise if those guys feel like a mistake will mean they're benched. I also think Hoke's comment post game about mistakes rotating through the offensive unit might speak to that issue.  Or maybe I read too much into that. 

 

San Diego Mick

November 25th, 2013 at 10:14 PM ^

about The Game as I am now, with RR, I knew we would get smoked and he wasn't going to be around for much longer, but with Hoke, knowing he will be here at least another year or more, unless we become a contender again, it's just so depressing.

I've been a fan for 40 some odd years and I just don't like what I see or what I'm hearing from him, he seems clueless to me, I'm sorry, he just seems lost and his act is getting old quick. I just hope Brandon injects some influence behind the scenes, cause this crap just can't continue.

One more thing, I hope they give Morris an honest shot of starting next year, I appreciate Gardner's desire and dedication to the program, I just don't see him being a QB who can read a defense or dump the ball when he has to, among other things he does that are immensily dumb.

You Only Live Twice

November 25th, 2013 at 10:34 PM ^

So.  A friend who knows football, used to play in his youth.... this friend, who is not a Michigan fan but called some years ago with the news that we were getting DG...which he considered significant..... I talked to him tonight and he says it's not impossible to beat OSU.  He doesn't think their defense is worth !@#! and I get lost when he starts to talk about our offense, but he mentioned our young O line and something about not lining up on the right...I can debate health policy for hours but not this stuff.  he also said DG could be, would be great next year, with conditions like getting him a QB coach and a better OC.

Anyway he's a ND fan but does not hate M, and when he talks football to me, it's never BS.

Hoping he is right about next year, and this Saturday.

 

uncleFred

November 25th, 2013 at 11:37 PM ^

until this season. Football is a competitive sport in which defeat or victory often hinges on a handfull of plays. The regular season will either end with seven or eight wins. It will be a season that could have gone 5-7 or 10-2 if a handful of plays had gone the other way. I understand that this has NOT been a season of "Michigan football", and as much as I hated to watch the team lose, they did not deserve to win any of their losses. 

So what? Seriously so what? This is a team in transition in a rebuilding year. We knew after Akron that this team was hugely inconsistent. Thus we knew, or at least should have known, that every game this year could go either way.

A single season does not define a program. Had Denard not been injured last year, the team would proabably produced 9 or 10 wins. So I am deeply uninterested in arguments about "trends". I am interested in how team 134 matures during their season. My eye, modestly educated by the excellent analysis presented here by the paid and unpaid contributors, tells me that Oline play actually made measurable improvements in both the NW and Iowa games. Not enough to win the Iowa game, but visible improvement none the less.

I have no idea how "The Game" will turn out. While I don't have a good feeling about it, I've seen to many upsets to count our guys out until "The Game" is in the books. Still, despite how deeply I hate losing to Ohio, I'm prepared to take a loss this year in stride.

As I've said elsewhere, I've been a fan of Michigan football since the early 60s. I remember the 1-7 season. I remember when Michigan was irrelevant. I remember the coming of Bo. I was at the U during most of the ten year war. For God's sake, this fan base needs to get some balls and some perspective. I have lived through MUCH worse seasons that this one. Which, btw, virtually all of you have too (2008??).

No coaches need to be fired. No "message" needs to be sent, you can be sure that the coaches are well aware of Brandon's views, and that Hoke's staff is well aware of his views on their and the team's performance. Just suck it up. While I expect that things will be fine in another season or two, I don't know that for a fact. What I do know is that when a program has been put through two totally opposed offensive philosophies in less than six years, rebuilding is not just hard but (to quote a bunch of Apollo engineers) way hard. Way hard means that the task is hard enough that they can't give reasonable estimates on how long the task will take. 

I've come in, reorgnaized, and lead programs to success that while having perhaps half the head count of Michigan football, exceed the football programs budget by 3-5 times. I've also come in and failed miserably. What these coaches are trying to do is very difficult. In my opinion, they are, at least, doing okay. They may be doing great, but we don't have enough information to accurately assess that. 

So my advice is to suck it up and see what happens over the remainder of this season and those coming in 2014 and 2015. At that point we'll all have enough information to make a responsible decision. 

Swayze Howell Sheen

November 26th, 2013 at 5:32 AM ^

I think people are worried about this scenario: "I've also come in and failed miserably." You've been successful, you've failed. It happens. Fans around here are worried that Hoke and co. just aren't up to it, and this is what their failure will look like.

You are right though, it is hard to tell. We'll know a lot more one year from now. It is difficult to be patient, however, as OSU, MSU, and Wisconsin all are clearly one or two notches above UM right now. In a mediocre Big Ten, we aren't even the best of the mediocre group. 

 

might and main

November 26th, 2013 at 7:37 AM ^

You're right Fred, football is a competitive sport in which defeat or victory often hinges on a handful of plays. But that's mostly the case when the teams playing are competitive. The problem is our offense is performing at a level of suck that voids the argument here. If you really think we're some small number of plays from being a 10-2 team then you are delusional. See the forest, not the trees.

Bilg2.0

November 26th, 2013 at 9:12 AM ^

and fandom, but very much disagree.  The long term cyclical perspective of college football was more relevant before the BCS, ESPN non-stop feed, and OMG SEC.  This isn't so much about fans' need for instant gratification as it is about propagated national perception of the program.

Back in the day your program could be down, but you could bring a recruit on campus, show them the tradition, facilities, and sweet town of Ann Arbor...along with a side of Bo's charm, and the deal was closed.  Nowadays, there are more teams to compete with, fewer scholarships, and every game and every performance by the team is televised, analyzed and over scrutinized.

It's been a decade of irrelevance, and there's been nowhere to hide. College football is big business now, and our shortcoming are circulated throughout the media ad nauseum.  Less important is how miserable this coverage makes us fans, but most important is the perception it has created about our program...being middling B1G.

To Hoke's credit he has taken his love and passion for the university and translated it into sweet recruiting classes.  But if they continue to underperform with this staff it will get harder to convince kids to come to Ann Arbor over Columbus and even that crap hole East Lansing. "Michigan fergodsakes" needs to be translated onto the field, or it becomes just another sound bite.

Winged helmets, a big stadium and images of Bo and Woody stalking the sidelines in the 70's only go so far...especially when ESPN is shoving OMG SEC and BCS down everyone's throats all season.  Our success and NFL pipeline from the 90's is becoming a distant memory as well. 

So yeah, I think its much harder to climb out of a funk now than 30 years ago.  Just ask Notre Dame.

akblue

November 26th, 2013 at 9:55 AM ^

How many coaching changes has ND gone through as they tried to return to relevance? The carousel does not make for consistency in building a strong program.

If we're looking for a national image to present for the future of the program, it make make sense to start with stability. I think our coaching staff is working in the present, but is also focused on the long term value of the program. The cut and run mentality will do nothing but perpetuate an image of desparation. Can we really afford to continue our "transition" for another three years?

Short term challenges build to long term success. The problems that this team and coaching staff are working through are invaluable to the long term knowledge and success of a program. There's no magic, as the media portrays it. If Hoke gets it, the issues we see this year will not be repeated. Consistency will be built into the program and "bad years" will be limited in frequency and the level of "badness."

I recall many comments about Hoke's first year being "the worst thing that could happen to him as a coach." The schedule was easy. People projected 10-11 wins with our without a coaching change. Expectations for a "return to glory" were fast forwarded and now we see a backlash because people think that we should already be "there."

Losing is the pits. Nobody likes it. But its not the end. With all of the criticism this team has endured this year, they have been in a position to win every game but one-- that says something about the coaching and the game planning.

If you are looking for a team to represent you in the media and stand up to the talking heads (or blog empowered fans) of the sports world then it might make sense to gamble on a quick fix in coaching changes. If you are looking for a team to represent the values and educaiton standards of an academic institution like Michigan, you need to delay short term success for long term strength in character and values. The wins will come.

west2

November 26th, 2013 at 1:00 PM ^

Ok….option 1 – Mich wins a close game – improbable Option 2 – Mich loses a close game – improbable Option 3 – Mich loses big – highly probable Option 4 – Mich wins big – highly improbable So looking at our options I am hoping for option 1 but in my heart I realistically would settle and be happy with option 2. Hoping against all odds its not option 3, and option 4…ha funny. This is how far we have fallen hoping for a close game that we end up losing!