Student Section going GA
http://www.mgoblue.com/tickets/students-fbl.html
I am sure this makes many of you happy but as a kid whose tickets were going to have excellent senior standing next year and who always makes it before kickoff, I am really angry.
GA is just chaos
(Edit: As a poster pointed out below, tickets are also way more expensive)
(Second Edit: To those thinking you will get good seats just for showing up before kick, you are wrong. Now that there is a reason to go early, we will have our own mini-Paternoville. For good games, you will have to be there 2 hours early. I love Michigan football, but as a grad student who also remembers pregames as the best part of being an undergrad, I really think this could kill some of the Saturday fun.)
April 23rd, 2013 at 12:30 PM ^
but various Greeks are perpetuating the stereotypes of their predecessors. If various members (I know not all do this) would stop showing up plastered midway through the game, then this meme would die within a few years
But they don't. A section of the Greeks do this every, single game and they reenforce that stereotype to a new generation of Michigan students and fans
From the guy who hired his accountant or whatever because he was Jewish...?
That was for the other thread.
But if someone said "I like all my servants to be black. Since I was a child, my nanny, my maid, my cook, were all black, and I have a level of comfort with them doing those job..." would certainly be a positive recommendation, but I think might not have the same warm fuzzy feeling, even though it's the same thing.
If that person was black they might.
A better example would be a black person going to a black hair dresser. My wife is Guatemalan and she wants our son (soon to be sons) to learn about her culture and language so we hired a Guatemalan nanny who speaks Spanish and can cook Guatemalan food well and is from Guatemala so she can (along with my wife) teach our sons that culture. Is that stereotyping?
We are now on a completely different topic. People hiring people of their own culture is not the same thing as stereotyping based on that culture.
Yes.
Edit: Whoops. Wrong comment to reply to.
Because as everyone knows, geeds never get drunk and make asses of themselves.
April 22nd, 2013 at 10:54 PM ^
April 22nd, 2013 at 11:07 PM ^
but at least my drunk GDI butt showed up on time (two hours early) and not 7 min into the 2nd qtr, only to leave at the half like the 4 greek girls in my row in 2011. It is called time management.
Now they get relegated to the top. hallelujah
Here is another tip for the greeks. GET A MAIZE SHIRT! You are the ones killing the maize outs in the student section.
Come on, you know me, and somehow despite my 4 seasons' worth of sweet sorority pregame tank tops, I have never been late to a game or left early. The letters make us stand out from the student body, but there are good and bad fans both Greek and non-affiliated (there, I stopped calling you geeds, geeds) so it's really stupid to try and claim that the non-Greeks are absolutely superior football fans. They just blend in better or never bought tickets in the first place.
FTR, I totally support GA. but trying to say "boohoo the sorority girls make everything terrible!" makes me picture this entire thread sitting in there basement being this guy:
"Football fandom 2/10, would not bang."
Show up on TIME and DON'T LEAVE. Have the entire greek population wear a maize shirt and not a grey one or blue one for their greek pride shirt. Until then the greek population will have their shitty fan rep. By being on time in the marching band world that means getting there EARLY.
I mean, don't fight stereotypes by living up to them....
But to say "anyone who ever had a problem with sorority girsl must be NEERRRDDDDSSS" ....well, that's out of "Revenge of the Nerds 101" and is perpetuating the stereotype rather than fighting it. Just pointing out how silly it is to say "these stereotypes aren't fair" while acting them out....
I agree that the poster above shouldn't have said that. But because he's wrong, you need to be too?
April 23rd, 2013 at 12:05 PM ^
As a non-Greek alum, I'm pretty confident in speaking for the group when I say that the distinction between Greek and non-Greek as it might apply to your friend would be totally lost on damn near everyone outside of your frat (or potentially a broader group of frats/sororities ... I'm not sure how that works.)
Not shit really!!! you are blowing my mind! I never knew about engineering frats like Triangle and Omega. Don't lecture me son when I am most likely much older than you. I have seen the tendencies of the different populations from my time in undergrad and in graduate school.
How exactly did they game the system?
Back in my day, we'd have our sorority pregame partners send in some slutty spring break pictures with our ticket orders. Surprisingly, it used to work quite well. There's no other reason why a fraternity/sorority combo with credits ranging from 30 - 90 would end up in the first 30-40 rows.
Not saying it was the right thing to do, but it worked.
...did that actually happen?
Yes.
April 22nd, 2013 at 10:15 PM ^
Your username has new and unexpected awesomeness.
that they had the brothers who had the most credits join the seating group, but then gave the seats to whoever in the frat wanted them--including younger guys or ones who didn't have as many credits.
So they gave their tickets to someone who wanted them...I don't see the problem.
so you're basically saying the seniors created a group and then gave those tickets to juniors/sophomores/pledges? and then presumably the seniors who applied for those tickets didn't go to the game or sat in worse seats?
i can tell you with 100% certainty that this did not happen.
I was just responding to the comment above...I'm going to assume you meant that they gave them tickets once they were in the stadium to get to their section, in which case everyone does that....greeks and non-greeks alike
April 23rd, 2013 at 10:32 AM ^
Granted, stereotypes are almost always unfair when applied to a specific individual, but there's a reason they exist.
It's about not having to show up at 11 pm the night before.
I actually just posted about this in another thread! I'm not sure how to feel about it, I'm a bit nervous that it could get reeeeeally rowdy in there. Also, student tickets are so much more expensive this year...
I bet this gets reversed after a year or two. Now people that are Sr/Jr and pregame until 1145 and show up 15 minutes late will have shit seats, so they just won't come. This won't improve the turnout rate of the student section, and even if they then shrink it, you'll still have a problem where the top 30 rows are never filled, unless you make 72-100 non-student tickets.
There will definitely be some no-shows, but this will at least force those who care to get their butts over to the stadium. We won't have a student section that is 60-70% empty at kickoff.
The issue this creates now is that if you want really good seats, you're going to have to line up hours before kickoff and not tailgate.
Life is full of difficult decisions. This is not one of them.
Drink a couple more beers, or get a few rows closer. It's a simple choice.
Or do what I would do: Wake up 30 minutes earlier, drink those beers anyway, stop at Blue Front to grab 4 airplane mini-liquor bottles, buy a souvenir coke at concessions, keep the party going.
I have a feeling it is going to be more than 30 minutes, at least for the big games. Getting into the stadium 15 min before kickoff got you your seats before, but now that the majority of people will be fighting for good seats I wouldn't be surprised to see people there 2 hours before. That is a long and sobering time...
Central will be an interesting barometer before UTL Part II.
This guy's got it figured out.
My school does GA and I always get to our stadium at least 30 minutes early. The stadium is half the size of the Big House, but I usually sit about 15 rows up, and that's only so that we have room for my entire group of friends.
Noon games suck to pregame for, but if you drink enough Friday night you can wake up still drunk (or it'll kick in after a beer or two). Nothing like a Busch Light at 8am. Breakfast of champions.
You weren't in the student section at the bball games. You obviously didn't see that people came the night before to get in line. I had the time to do it once. Guess what? I saw people get trampled by a mob who pushed to get in the stadium first. Get some perspective or at least some info to back up your claim.
Long, long overdue. As a student, I figured out pretty quickly that GA is the best way to organize a student section, and I've always stood by that position. Glad that good fans will be rewarded!
You say that now...but when you were a student I doubt you would have the same reaction.
April 22nd, 2013 at 10:18 PM ^
Did you actually read the words he wrote?
April 22nd, 2013 at 11:21 PM ^
I did...my point was that he says that was his opinion as a student, not sure he would feel the same way if he was currently a student and this change was made...it's easy to make claims when they don't affect you
I spent enough time waiting in Maize Rage lines to know that just because people have the free time to show up early, it doesn't mean they are the best fans. Seriously, I had several students ask me who/what my "Chicks Dig Scars" shirt meant.