All-2000s Michigan team on NCAA 12
For anyone who plays NCAA Football 12 or any other version, I have just finished my first team in a series of all-decade teams I will be doing.
I have the authentic heights and weights of the players, from their senior year or their last year as Wolverine.
My ID is WolverineDevotee. If you want to add me on PS3, my PSN is WolverineDevotee.
Here is a look at the roster:
QB 7 Chad Henne 2004-2007
16 John Navarre 2000-2003
15 Ryan Mallett 2007
16 Denard Robinson 2009-present
RB 20 Mike Hart 2004-2007
23 Chris Perry 2000-2003
4 Brandon Minor 2006-2009
23 Carlos Brown 2005-2008
24 Jerome Jackson 2003-2006
FB 35 B.J. Askew 1999-2002
WR 1 Braylon Edwards 2001-2004
8 Jason Avant 2002-2005
86 Mario Mannigham 2005-2007
15 Steve Breaston 2002-2006
16 Adrian Arrington 2004-2007
19 Ron Bellamy 1999-2002
17 Carl Tabb 2002-2006
21 Junior Hemingway 2007-2011
27 Calvin Bell 2000-2003
TE 83 Bennie Joppru 1998-2002
88 Tim Massaquoi 2001-2005
85 Carson Butler 2005-2008
89 Tyler Ecker 2002-2006
LT 77 Jake Long 2003-2007
79 Adam Stenavich 2001-2005
62 Courtney Morgan 1999-2003
LG 57 Adam Kraus 2003-2007
65 Leo Henige 2001-2005
C 75 David Baas 2000-2004
50 David Molk 2007-2011
RG 67 Matt Lentz 2001-2005
76 Dave Petruziello 1998-2002
73 Alex Mitchell 2004-2007
RT 77 Tony Pape 1999-2003
72 Rueben Riley 2002-2006
52 Stephen Schilling 2006-2010
DEFENSE
LE 56 LaMarr Woodley 2003-2006
13 Larry Stevens 2000-2003
90 Tim Jamison 2004-2007
DT 90 Alan Branch 2004-2006
91 Rondell Biggs 2003-2006
60 Grant Bowman 1999-2003
78 Gabe Watson 2002-2005
97 Will Johnson 2004-2008
RE 55 Brandon Graham 2006-2009
94 Pat Massey 2001-2005
53 Shantee Orr 1999-2002
LLB 6 Prescott Burgess 2003-2006
58 Roy Manning 2000-2004
37 Chris Graham 2003-2007
MLB 45 David Harris 2002-2006
36 Scott McClintock 2001-2005
RLB 2 Shawn Crable 2003-2006
6 Victor Hobson 1998-2002
43 Carl Diggs 2000-2003
CB 29 Leon Hall 2003-2006
3 Marlin Jackson 2001-2004
30 Markus Curry 2001-2004
13 Grant Mason 2001-2005
14 Morgan Trent 2005-2008
FS 25 Ernest Shazor 2001-2004
31 Brandent Englemon 2003-2007
21 Jeremy LeSeur 1999-2002
SS 2 Cato June 1999-2002
21 Ryan Mundy 2003-2006
K 38 Garrett Rivas 2003-2006
P 41 Zoltan Mesko 2005-2009
Henson over Mallett no? Still awesome good work
I have certain criteria. If their career began in the 90s, they have to have at least two years of play in the 2000s. Henson is going to be on the All-90s team.
thats some pretty fair criteria
I was gonna complain about Hutchenson and Backus' omission untill I saw this post.
April 20th, 2012 at 10:51 AM ^
Your list is great, but If that is your criteria, then wouldn't Denard be off the team and on the all 2010's team due to him only playing 2009?
Although it's all personal preference, Kovacs would fit in there well.
I know he stunk in the pros and hasnt been a great citizen off the field either but what about David Terrell. His 2000 season was nuts. 13TDs?
just thinking about having a senior Woodley and a senior B.Graham on the same team made it move a little.
Looks like I'm going to invest in a PS3 ... Especially if you're coming out with an all 90s team.
Will be adding you once I get home from school this weekend
I'm playing NCAA right now and when I read this I'm not going to lie...it moved a little. If you know what I mean.
Shouldn't you put Forcier ahead of Mallett?
April 19th, 2012 at 10:14 PM ^
April 19th, 2012 at 10:22 PM ^
Was on the 2001 team.
Edit Marquise walker as well.
Hayden Epstein kicker extraordinaireApril 19th, 2012 at 10:32 PM ^
- Brady played 1995-1999
- Rivas is the all-time leader in points scored at Michigan, field goals and extra points.
- Terrell played from 1998-2000.
April 19th, 2012 at 10:18 PM ^
No Mike Martin? Didn't Baas play all but one year at OG? Will Johnson and no Van Bergan? No Terrence Taylor either?
April 19th, 2012 at 10:29 PM ^
Carl Tabb? Gimme Roy Roundtree over him anyday. Or Odoms.
April 19th, 2012 at 10:30 PM ^
No Coner?
April 19th, 2012 at 10:39 PM ^
QB 7 Chad Henne 2004-2007
16 John Navarre 2000-2003
15 Ryan Mallett 2007
16 Denard Robinson 2009-present
Hmmm...not alphabetical...not numerical...not chronological...not based on time served...not based on number of starts...why is Ryan Mallet your 3rd QB? Or are they in 'no particular order'?
April 19th, 2012 at 10:58 PM ^
April 19th, 2012 at 10:52 PM ^
April 19th, 2012 at 11:07 PM ^
Adams was the big omission, IMO
April 20th, 2012 at 12:46 AM ^
People beat me to Jamar Adams. Probably the best safety we've had in a long time. I did a study on that in Aug '09. I'd have him start and move LeSeuer to the cornerbacks.
Other suggestions:
QB 7 Chad Henne 2004-2007
16 John Navarre 2000-2003
15 Ryan Mallett 2007
16 Denard Robinson 2009-present
Lose Mallett. I guess your QB is based on the offense you want to run. Hard not to use Denard. On the other hand he became a starter in 2010 so he shouldn't even be included and this should read Henne, Navarre, Forcier
RB 20 Mike Hart 2004-2007
23 Chris Perry 2000-2003
4 Brandon Minor 2006-2009
23 Carlos Brown 2005-2008
24 Jerome Jackson 2003-2006
You don't need Jerome Jackson. I guess Carlos Brown > David Underwood or any other myriad backups to "the man." I'd be tempted to go McGuffie there but that's just me. Brown's good.
FB 35 B.J. Askew 1999-2002
DUDLEY! 32 man. Especially since you are going to have Askew above C.Brown on your HB depth chart you need a blocking FB here and Dudders is the DUDE!
WR 1 Braylon Edwards 2001-2004
8 Jason Avant 2002-2005
86 Mario Mannigham 2005-2007
15 Steve Breaston 2002-2006
16 Adrian Arrington 2004-2007
19 Ron Bellamy 1999-2002
17 Carl Tabb 2002-2006
21 Junior Hemingway 2007-2011
27 Calvin Bell 2000-2003
You're reaching at the end there. Bellamy might be at the very end of the list if you need a depth chart this long. I'd cut out Tabb and Bell (though I liked Tabb a lot) and slot in Martavious Odoms and Greg Mathews. My depth chart reads:
SE: Braylon, Manningham, Arrington
FL: Avant, Hemingway, Mathews
SL: Breaston, Odoms, Roundtree
Breaston's my KR and PR of course. Rotate this position heavily. You can put Braylon or Mario in the slot if you need to create havoc.
TE 83 Bennie Joppru 1998-2002
88 Tim Massaquoi 2001-2005
85 Carson Butler 2005-2008
89 Tyler Ecker 2002-2006
MANBEARFREAK isn't going on my team. Gimme Martell Webb instead for my blocking game instead of Butler.
LT 77 Jake Long 2003-2007
79 Adam Stenavich 2001-2005
62 Courtney Morgan 1999-2003
LG 57 Adam Kraus 2003-2007
65 Leo Henige 2001-2005
C 75 David Baas 2000-2004
50 David Molk 2007-2011
RG 67 Matt Lentz 2001-2005
76 Dave Petruziello 1998-2002
73 Alex Mitchell 2004-2007
RT 77 Tony Pape 1999-2003
72 Rueben Riley 2002-2006
52 Stephen Schilling 2006-2010
Argh you put Schilling at guard (I'm talking to you because successive M coaches wouldn't listen to me). Molk should start at center. When you make your starting lineup, put Baas in at guard (where he was before anyway) and bring in Dave Pearson of the Daves. We don't need Alex Mitchell on this team. Give me Ortmann before him.
LT: Long, Stenavich, Morgan
LG: Baas, Schilling, Henige
C: Molk, Pearson
RG: Kraus, Lentz, Petruziello
RT: Pape, Riley
DEFENSE
LE 56 LaMarr Woodley 2003-2006
13 Larry Stevens 2000-2003
90 Tim Jamison 2004-2007
You mean RE (WDE) for this. This is rush end. I'd swap Stevens for Orr.
DT 90 Alan Branch 2004-2006
91 Rondell Biggs 2003-2006
60 Grant Bowman 1999-2003
78 Gabe Watson 2002-2005
97 Will Johnson 2004-2008
What is this, a 3-4? A 3-3-5? And you left out Terrance Taylor! And Biggs is exterior.
NT: Watson, Taylor, Lazarus
DT: Branch, W.Johnson, Bowman, Heuer
RE 55 Brandon Graham 2006-2009
94 Pat Massey 2001-2005
53 Shantee Orr 1999-2002
Massey? Oh man no way. Nowaynowaynoway. We have words now. BG, Stevens, Biggs are your SDEs opposite Woodley, Orr and Jamison.
LLB 6 Prescott Burgess 2003-2006
58 Roy Manning 2000-2004
37 Chris Graham 2003-2007
MLB 45 David Harris 2002-2006
36 Scott McClintock 2001-2005
RLB 2 Shawn Crable 2003-2006
6 Victor Hobson 1998-2002
43 Carl Diggs 2000-2003
The linebackers don't make much sense. The OLB job descriptions have changed around over that period but there has still been two positions other than MLB that should be separated: WLB and SAM. I know the NCAA series used to have "ROLB" and "LOLB" which were basically interchangeable but Michigan's defensive iterations in this time were basically the 4-3 Even, the 3-4 with Woodley as an OLB, the Ron English Nickelfest (essentially Brandon Harrison), the 4-3/3-3-5/whatthehellisthis?, the Passive 3-3-5, and the 4-3 Under. In each of those except the mostly-nickel years there was a type of SAM who did a lot of pass rushing and taking on blocks, and if he was in coverage it was the slot, not deep. And in each of those iterations the WLB did have vertical coverage responsibilities.
If the 2000s begin in 2000, then you must include Larry Foote. I'd have Lawrence Reid or Zach Kaufman in there before I had Scott McClintock.
So new linebacker depth chart:
- ROLB (WLB): Burgess, Reid, Manning
- MLB: Harris, Foote, Diggs
- LOLB (SAM): Hobson, Crable, S.Brown
I like this depth chart since it gives you three different looks out of the SAM spot: use Hobson for typical run-stuffing situations, throw in Crable for a 3rd down pass rush, and play Stevie Brown against spread teams. I'd probably make Larry Foote the WLB rather than play him behind Harris and force Burgess onto the field.
CB 29 Leon Hall 2003-2006
3 Marlin Jackson 2001-2004
30 Markus Curry 2001-2004
13 Grant Mason 2001-2005
14 Morgan Trent 2005-2008
Donovan Warren! He's easily behind Marlin. Also add LeSeur to this group. Curry would be the first out if you need to cut. Then Mason, then LeSeuer, then Trent. Brandon Harrison would be good to add, mostly because he gives you good play at the nickel and dime.
FS 25 Ernest Shazor 2001-2004
31 Brandent Englemon 2003-2007
21 Jeremy LeSeur 1999-2002
Shazor was a SS actually. As mentioned above, move him out and put Jamar Adams in. Even thought Adams was mostly an SS as well, he was the best FS we had. After Englemon put Troy Woolfolk or Charles Drake. Either works.
SS 2 Cato June 1999-2002
21 Ryan Mundy 2003-2006
Cato was always so injured but yeah, Shazor bumps him down and then this spot makes sense.
K 38 Garrett Rivas 2003-2006
P 41 Zoltan Mesko 2005-2009
Excelsior! Adam Finley makes a good backup for either spot and KOS.
PR: Breaston, Marlin Jackson, if you kept Markus Curry he goes here. If not, F-it, Greg Mathews U CATCH DAMN BALL
KR: Breaston & Odoms, LeSeuer
to see these changes made. This is exactly what my depth chart would look like with the exception of Donovan Warren perhaps.
... I'm cutting Trent immediately. My pure hatred for that guy (as a player) will not allow me to have him on the team.
Hutch?
Will you be able to take your roster from one game to the next? I don't see myself playing 2012 again. Maybe if you are making a 90s team it be better to hold off until the new game comes out
Will you be able to take your roster from one game to the next? I don't see myself playing 2012 again. Maybe if you are making a 90s team it be better to hold off until the new game comes out
April 20th, 2012 at 11:44 PM ^
TeamBuilder schools are able to be played with on any game that supports teambuilder. I could download a team made on the 10 version, and someone could download my 12 version teams onto NCAA 10.