ESPN First Take Destroys tosu

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Skip Bayless and Stephen A. Smith both called for the firing of Tressel, and virtually called for a death penalty for the football program.

Ouch.

Going to be fun today watching Buckeye boards attacking those guys.

BILG

May 27th, 2011 at 11:27 AM ^

Just wait until the details come out!  As I stated before, the corruption is way beyond what is currently circulating, and the media guys are now getting wind of it.

And to those still in denial of my info on....

Pay for play

Ginn paid to funnel recruits

Paying girls to sleep with athletes

Drug dealing

I will say this,

I am sharing what I have heard from two very reliable sources close to the info.  Unfortunately (or perhaps fortunately, depending on your perspective), I am not a primary source here, so I can not absolutely, positively, 100% verify any details.  I also have no idea when and if all this stuff comes out.  What I can say, and assure you of is this....This is not mere internet rumor mongering, and the sources are legit and close to the action...

NCAA lawyer

Player's Dad

I do not have details on how money changed hands, how girls were paid or influenced to sleep with the athletes, or who was selling drugs.  What has been shared with me is that thecorruption was far beyond car deals and merchandise sales. 

Frankly, I am not that surprised, and don't understand why anybody is like "No Way".  This stuff is not that OMG shocking when you look at Tressel's history.  If this stuff occurred in the SEC at Auburn, Florida, Alabama, etc, we would all be like, eh, I knew they were dirty.

There was plenty of smoke from Tressel's Youngstown days, the Clarret debacle, Troy Smith, etc.....Simply because these incidents were buried by the media and overshadowed by OSU's on field success, does not mean they never occurred.  The corruption is very much in line with Tressel's history, the getting caught and exposed nationally part is all that's new.  The shock is not that the violations occurred, it is simply a surprise it took this long to finally be exposed.  If not for the silver bullet of an email record, the vest may have remained bullet-proof.  Unlike the anti-RR Free Press waiting to attack RR for an undisclosed fart or cursing in front of children, the Columbus media and fans see only Scarlett and Gray, allowing the senator to get away with murder.

The preist was always dipping into the donation plate and fondling the choir boys....

He just finally got caught.

superstringer

May 27th, 2011 at 11:35 AM ^

... lots of college players have been accused of that.  Hell, we had Feagen in one transaction.  Scott Skiles was convicted of it in Indiana, IIRC, and kept playing at MSU -- gee, shocker there.

But, does drug dealing by players in any way violate NCAA rules that can bring sanctions on the program?  Obviously, if the coach knew and condoned it, but the odds of THAT are so remote as to be stupidly impossible.  I don't really see how, if AJ Hawk (as a HYPOTHETICAL EXAMPLE, not implying anything, I don't know why he had $3000 cash in his dorm room, everyone commits murder anyway) was dealing, how does that bring sanctions on tSIO?

BILG

May 27th, 2011 at 11:39 AM ^

One guy dealing is an anomoly or an outlier....

A bunch of players working with shady guys at a tatoo parlor along with all the other transactions, etc is a red flag for "lack of institutional control."

The drug dealing alone may not be a program breaker, but on top of everything else....

Oh, what a tangled web they weave.

fatbastard

May 27th, 2011 at 12:27 PM ^

If the compliance staff knew players were all driving fancy chargers, monte carlos, etc, and loaner cars, and the coach knew that players were selling memorbilia to a known dealer, and they all conveniently looked past these facts, that sounds an awful lot like lack of institutional control to me.  It is not a stretch to suppose that the guys that were selling rings and trinkets to Rife, were selling something else in exchange to finance the lavish lifestyles generally known around campus. 

COB

May 27th, 2011 at 12:09 PM ^

are so full of your own shit it's amazing.  I wonder if you really believe you have a source or if you just are committed to the lie at this point.  You think, honestly, that proof is going to come out that the school itself, or coaches themselves PAID college girls to sleep with football players.  That Ginn Sr. was PAID to tell recruits to go to their in-state powerhouse football program.  I honestly want to know, you really believe that not only this happened but that SI is going to prove it?

Needs

May 27th, 2011 at 3:50 PM ^

as he was in the anthropology doctoral program for a time during the 80s (though he realized that cooking and writing cookbooks was a better use of his talents than completing a dissertation).

TrppWlbrnID

May 27th, 2011 at 11:30 AM ^

Edward Rife, the Columbus tattoo parlor owner who bought memorabilia from Ohio State football players, has been charged with drug trafficking and money laundering.

The Associated Press reports that court documents indicate Rife will plead guilty to one count of conspiracy to distribute and possess with intent to distribute more than 200 pounds of marijuana, and one count of money laundering. He will cooperate with authorities.

superstringer

May 27th, 2011 at 11:38 AM ^

But, cooperate for WHAT?

Sounds like, cooperate to find out where he was getting the ganji, you know, who his suppliers were.  That's how drug rings are busted, they get the low guys on the totem pole, and use their testimony to go up the tree until they find the ultimate guys who are bringing it into the country by the truckfulls.

We shouldn't infer it means, the DOJ is looking to get his help to put tSIO on NCAA sanctions.

Wolverine15

May 27th, 2011 at 11:48 AM ^

they'd have to commit major violations while on probation for major violations. also, after seeing what the death penalty did to SMU, ncaa most likely will never give it out again. I think we're talking major scholarship reduction and bowl ban here

Callahan

May 27th, 2011 at 11:49 AM ^

Then again, Bayless and Smith would call for the firing of their sandwich artist for not putting enough mayo on their subs. They're just national versions of Rob Parker. 

foreverbluemaize

May 27th, 2011 at 12:19 PM ^

there is too much money that would be sacrificed if the Death Penalty were instituted. USC had athletes getting improper benefits but they could not prove the coaches knew about it. With tO$U they have a long history of violations under Tress and they now have proof positive of many violators. To make matters worse Tress knew about it and lied about it on many occasions. I don't see how the NCAA can give them anything less than twice the punshment that USC got.

gobluesasquatch

May 27th, 2011 at 1:26 PM ^

I hate calling for a coach's job, and I've only done it 3 or 4 times in my career. That sounds really consistent to me. Also classic, I don't care if they violated the rules because the rules are unfair, but it's the hypocritical action of Tressell. Gee, rules are rules and unless they change, you should enforce the rules. 

tOSU is keeping Tressell around because the longer he's around, the more they can pin on Tressell and also see how much more lying he does. Then tOSU can fire him prior to the meeting with the NCAA, or at worst, play the Jim O'Brien card and explain that the only reason they haven't fired him is because of what happened the last time. 

As for the Repeat Offender Rule in the NCAA rule book (otherwise known as the death penalty), they have to have major violations committed while already on probabtion anywhere in the athletic department. Since it was basketball and not football, without a direct link, can't see the DP happening. Even if they can make the clear link, and the problem goes beyond Tressel, which it hasn't yet (and for all we know, those links between the issues and the compliance department might exist), I'd see a maximum penalty looking more like what happened at Baylor basketball, where the conference schedule was maintained for 2 years, but no non-conference schedule, no home games, etc. Then at least the other BIG10 schools don't get penalized, and five of them get an additional home game for two years. 

 

Bobby Boucher

May 27th, 2011 at 1:50 PM ^

Yeah, I don't think they are credible enough to change the smugg minds of tosu administrators.  Nothing's going to happen with Tressel until the NCAA makes their ruling.