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4 weeks 2 days ago The whole band never goes away

The whole ban never goes away. Doesn't matter if it's MSU or the bowl trip...

7 weeks 5 days ago Don't be an ass.

1. They do pay fees already.  Not that much but they do pay some fees.

 

2.  Don't be an ass.

15 weeks 3 days ago Not sure if serious...

UM - top 3 theatre school in the country

Dance - top - 16 in the country I believe.

Summary - when you're going into a field in which it is insanely hard to get a paying job, your school makes a big difference.

18 weeks 1 day ago Who was the...

Who was the sideline reporter last night?

 

EDIT:  my bad...missed the name above...

20 weeks 6 days ago Eligibility for

Grant aid or federal student loans has nothing to do with the NCAA. IT's completely subject to government limitations based on cost of attendance, expected family contribution, and other scholarships the student receives. A student can't receive grant aid if their athletic scholarship covers the entire cost of attendance.

20 weeks 6 days ago No

State or federal grant aid has nothing whatsoer to do with athletic scholarships. A walk-on could very well qualify for grant aid depending on their economic background. Of course, people who are able to walk on and pay their own way usually have no money issues, and probably wouldn't qualify for grants in the first place, but it is possible.

20 weeks 6 days ago For public schools athletes....

A public school student who isn't on athletic scholarship is treated just like any other student. Their economic background may or may not be checked depending on the info they submit on their FASFA. Any grant aid they are eligible for they will receive as long as they apply on time. Those rules are set by the government for public institutions, and are constrained by the "cost of attendance" that each school sets. A basic fin aid equation is:

Expected family contribution + grant aid(if eligible) + student loans (if needed) = Cost of attendance (institution set)

For scholarship athletes:

Athletic Scholarship + grant aid(if eligible) + student loans (if needed) = Cost of attendance (institution set)

FYI, for all public schools, an athlete's cost of attendance is different than a non athlete.

AFA Private schools go, the rules for Pell or other government grants are the same. They do have more flexibility in how they use their funds for scholarships, etc .

22 weeks 2 days ago 2 very different points of view

Your point is that there's lots of money sitting out there that ends up in the pockets of coaches and admins, so why not give some to the students?  My point is there are 50k students at UM and an incredibly small minority should not be given even more benefits then they already receive just because our current market values certain sports as it does.  This point has been discussed ad naseum on the board before.  We are looking at this problem from completely different points of view.  You are considering them employees of a sort, and I am considering them as part of the student body.  We cannot provide this benefit to the vast majority of students, therefore no students should get the benefit. 

I do agree that there is too much money going to the coaches and admins.  I don't have a good answer as to the best way to combat that issue, but my view of the football team as students of the university keeps me from saying, just pay them. 

What we need to be considering is the athletes from extremely poor backgrounds who are really in need of more support than their normal athletic scholarships provide.  I do think there could be some solution to support those athletes more, but then financial aid officers would need to be involoved in the process and it gets complicated. 

22 weeks 2 days ago Well...

If you don't like that the coaches and administrators are getting more money, why don't we put a salary cap on them instead of giving student athletes (who are already compensated) more money?  If you don't like where the money is going I'm sure there are other places it could go that would be beneficial.  IMHO, giving student athletes an additional benefit is not the way to deal with this situation.

22 weeks 2 days ago ^^^ This.

Thank you!  Let's all please remember that no one makes these kids do this.  They do get compensated for their time and effort, and in more than just a degree.  Contacts, the cache that comes with having played football at a major university, etc.  I had scholarships for my undergrad at UM and still came out with 40k in debt.  And I would have killed to eat at the training table, let alone have extra academic support!

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