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|2 days 23 hours ago||I am shocked that it took 111||
I am shocked that it took 111 posts for someone to point this out. The SNOOTs on the board are really slipping.
|1 week 1 day ago||There may be reasonable||
There may be reasonable disputes about low level corporal punishment. If you are inflicting real injury on a child, however, injury that leaves wounds still open a week later, injury that leads you to text things to the other parent like "felt bad after the fact when I notice the switch was wrapping around hitting I (sic) thigh" and "Got him in nuts once I noticed. But I felt so bad, n I'm all tearing that butt up when needed!" you're not disciplining your child. You're violently lashing out at him because you're angry or frustrated.
Proper discipline requires self-discipline and self- control. Isn't that what we're trying to convey as parents? Peterson obviously lacked self-discipline and lost control of his actions if he injured a 4 year old to that extent. A 4 year old! There's no way this kind of beating could be instructional. This was domestic violence.
|1 week 1 day ago||Here's latest report. This is||
Here's latest report. This is not discipline, it's domestic violence. If true, he should be out for 6 games according to the nfl's new policy and face significant criminal sanction.
"The beating allegedly resulted in numerous injuries to the child, including cuts and bruises to the child's back, buttocks, ankles, legs and scrotum, along with defensive wounds to the child's hands. Peterson then texted the boy's mother, saying that one wound in particular would make her "mad at me about his leg. I got kinda good wit the tail end of the switch."
Peterson also allegedly said via text message to the child's mother that he "felt bad after the fact when I notice the switch was wrapping around hitting I (sic) thigh" and also acknowledged the injury to the child's scrotum in a text message, saying, "Got him in nuts once I noticed. But I felt so bad, n I'm all tearing that butt up when needed! I start putting them in timeout. N save the whooping for needed memories!"
In further text messages, Peterson allegedly said, "Never do I go overboard! But all my kids will know, hey daddy has the biggie heart but don't play no games when it comes to acting right."
According to police reports, the child, however, had a slightly different story, telling authorities that "Daddy Peterson hit me on my face." The child also expressed worry that Peterson would punch him in the face if the child reported the incident to authorities. He also said that he had been hit by a belt and that "there are a lot of belts in Daddy's closet." He added that Peterson put leaves in his mouth when he was being hit with the switch while his pants were down. The child told his mother that Peterson "likes belts and switches" and "has a whooping room.""
|1 week 1 day ago||And those photos are||
And those photos are reportedly from a week after the beating.
|1 week 1 day ago||A spanking that causes open||
A spanking that causes open wounds? On a 4 year old, not an 11 year old as originally reported? (and if he were 11 I don't think I'd think any different)
That's far beyond normal discipline and well into abuse IMO.
|2 weeks 2 days ago||Depends on if they are||
Depends on if they are hearing them collectively or if the students have asked for the hearings to be split up. It also depends on what the students are disputing in the report. I've sat on an appeal board for academic discipline cases, and we got the recordings of the hearings in question. Each was about an hour and a half. If ND follows the same procedures (which are brief statements and then questioning by the board) they should last about the same amount of time. If there are five of those, then no way are they going to be handled in a day (and some of these guys won't even get hearings for a couple weeks). If the charges are collectively considered (or four together and one on it own if there are significant differences), then they could do it all in one day.
I will say, any kind of "resolve this serious academic matter NOW, because of FOOTBAW!" is the kind of thing that would lead faculty to resent the place of the AD within the larger university. ND doesn't seem to be doing that, though, at least from the outside.
|2 weeks 3 days ago||On the rescheduling bit. It's||
On the rescheduling bit. It's virtually impossible to schedule a meeting that requires a quorum of faculty members on short notice (and I'll bet this committee has bylaws that it can't meet and make a ruling unless a significant majority of the committee is present), particularly at the beginning of the semester. There's so much backlogged business within departments after the summer that the set meeting time is a necessity. Plus, you have to give the members 4-5 days before the hearing to read the evidence. People are busy, yo.
If the case is what you present, ie another student typing, proofing, and editing the paper without ackowledment to the professor, that would cross the bar of academic dishonesty for me. Editing work to make ideas more clear is an important part of learning to write well. It also constitutes submitting a piece of writing that is substantially someone else's work under your own name. I would probably refer a case like this to my institution's academic discipline board (particularly if I found out about it via a random email mistake). It probably wouldn't be "fail the class" bad, but it would be a significant grade reduction.
|2 weeks 5 days ago||I've been following this||
I've been following this peripherally. To what extent did ND involve the NCAA? Did they just make a public announcement that these players are being held out because of an academic disciplinary matter or did they make some kind of report to the NCAA?
From what I know of ND, which comes from someone who used to be on the faculty but has since moved elsewhere because being a young single faculty member at ND is not ideal, most faculty realize that football's a big deal but are very focused on making sure it doesn't impinge upon the academic side of things. My friend was there for Willingham/early Weis, but I doubt that sentiment has changed (the Golston expulsion certainly seems to suggest it hasn't).
|2 weeks 5 days ago||As someone who teaches in||
As someone who teaches in higher ed, I don't want the NCAA anywhere near academic matters internal to a university. The NCAA deals, poorly IMO, with matters relevant to athletic departments. Anything to do with academics properly falls under the purview of that university's faculty as the central part of its governance of academic matters at the university. If students are receiving fradulant grades or grades for classes that don't exist (as at UNC), the proper body to handle that is the accredidation agency supervising the various departments of the university itself, not the NCAA (which is what happened at UNC).
ND seems to be handling this entirely according to the procedures set in place by its faculty and the NCAA should have nothing to do with it.
|2 weeks 5 days ago||If they're ruled guilty of||
If they're ruled guilty of what's been reported (submitting work they didn't do under their own name) they would almost certainly fail the relevant class, which would likely render them academically ineligible. It's kind of all or nothing at this point given the way academic discipline boards work.
|3 weeks 3 days ago||Wow! What an end to the post.||
Wow! What an end to the post. Congratulations!
|3 weeks 3 days ago||Strobel||
I think he's part of the "DE in the under, DT in the over" crew along with Wormley and Godin. Certainly haven't heard much mention of him, though.
|3 weeks 3 days ago||Shante Orr||
Not up to the standard of those three guys, but Shante Orr had some strong games. I'd say he was slightly below Clark's standard of last year, so don't know if that counts as "impact DE" but he could certainly be disruptive. He certainly would have created more of an impression had he stayed for his senior year. I know he had significant family pressures, but that's one of the poorer decisions to depart early of the past years.
Also, Woodley didn't really have a hybrid role that I can remember. I think he was pretty much exclusively a hand down DE.
|3 weeks 5 days ago||If your kids are already into||
If your kids are already into Michigan football, then 9 is plenty old. My then 5 year old twins made it through all of the UConn night game last year (and may have kept the predominantly M section in the end zone partially sane). The kid in the OP looks plenty into the game. You'll have a blast.
|3 weeks 5 days ago||Are you making this||
Are you making this criticism? "There is a thought afoot" is a really vague, self-deflecting rhetorical formulation.
If you have actually heard this, from what sources?
|3 weeks 6 days ago||I actually think they were||
I actually think they were really similar years. Huge expectation creating wins over ND followed by a series of too close wins against bad teams and an end of the year filled with losses to better teams. The difference is that last year's losses contained a lot more hope than did 2010's. It's easy to forget, but we were never within a TD in the 4th quarter in any of our losses this year, and the Wisconsin game was equally as depressing (if more exciting) than last year's Iowa game.
The case for 2010 is the pure wonder of watching Denard, which can't be understated, but the close games and losses were equally, if not more, painful, because you could see and feel this whole thing that most of us were hoping would happen just collapse in upon itself.
|4 weeks 2 days ago||The Jim Nantz of schools||
This thread seems like a good place for this...
|4 weeks 5 days ago||Ace||
Can you do a vicious electronic questioning of msu tomorrow?
|4 weeks 6 days ago||Now we're aggressive!||
Still waiting for the first defensive coach in history to promise to adopt a more conservative, passive approach.
"This year, we're going in with a philosophy where we're willing to bend as long as we don't break."
|5 weeks 1 day ago||Depends on when it came to light at ND. If it||
Depends on when it came to light at ND. If it broke at the end of the spring semester or over the summer, its likely difficult to convene the academic disciplinary board, which is a faculty panel, given how faculty scatter at the end of the semester. This past week may have been one of the first time's the entire committee on academic integrity could be convened.
|6 weeks 2 days ago||Irving||
We'll find out if Irving's actually a good player now. He's literally never played in a high pressure game in college or the pros.
|6 weeks 2 days ago||Varejao||
Varejao's missed mote than half his teams games the past three seasons. There's no way they can expect him to give them substantial minutes. Bulls, then Cavs, then Raptors, then junk. That's the east this year.
|6 weeks 4 days ago||Exactly. This shows how real||
Exactly. This shows how real the 'Fear of a Black Wallet' phenomenon is among athletic and academic admins.
|7 weeks 4 days ago||For what it's worth, the||
For what it's worth, the World Anti-Doping Agency's standard for failing a marijuana test is ten times that of the NFL. Given that everything that Roger Goddell does is wrong, I'm just going to assume this continues the trend.
|7 weeks 6 days ago||I like that "great place to||
I like that "great place to work" is in quotes, suggesting Brandon's not talking about the actual experience of employees of the athletic department but in a workplace qualification handed out by Businessweek or Forbes according to the specific metric of their "Great Places to Work" issue.
The presence of a Smile Committee is clearly one of those metrics.
|7 weeks 6 days ago||Don't know if you can answer||
Don't know if you can answer this without film work, but did his mechanics get progressively poorer throughout the year as he got hit and hit again, or were they poor in game situations where he was getting pressure from the ND game onward?
I remember him standing in against the rush pretty well against ND (well, with one major exception) and thought he progressively lost trust in his line and became increasingly unwilling to stick in the pocket as the year got on and he got beat up, but I don't know anything about QB mechanics to know if his mechanics were right before his trust broke down.
|7 weeks 6 days ago||Hoke pretty much has to be||
Hoke pretty much has to be extended after this year if he's not going to be fired. Coaches almost never go into the last year of a contract without an extension. It hurts recruiting too much.
|9 weeks 1 day ago||This is the second thing he's said that makes me||
This is the second thing he's said that makes me thing that he's been hearing complaints.about athletics intruding on relationships between academic programs and donors. The first was in his interview with the Michigan Record where he described strong athletics as a good thing as long as they don't intrude on the university's academic mission.
|9 weeks 2 days ago||That's really interesting.||
That's really interesting. I've heard similar things (3rd and 4th hand) about smaller donors (endowing chairs, not buildings) to academic programs being targeted by the athletic department during the transition between Terry MacDonald and the new dean of LSA.
The person I talked to was pretty annoyed, it apparently violated an implied "hands off" agreement between central campus and the athletic campus and was seen as trying to take advantage of an administrative vacuum.
|9 weeks 2 days ago||Schlissel||
If you really wanted to project and read between the lines, you could portray this quote from Schlissel in his interview with the Michigan Record as implying that he's somewhat uncomfortable with the over-commercialization of the AD
"Athletics is a wonderful community-building thing for the campus and we just have to be careful that the balance remains appropriate given that we are a great academic institution."
(The most logical explanation is that it's a throwaway line, or, if you want to project in a different direction, that it's directed at the AD's reputed targeting of donors to academic programs). On the fireworks thing, it's pretty obvious that at least some of the regents have been hearing complaints about the game day atmosphere and the continued marketing efforts to sell tix. This kind of veto doesn't just come out of the blue.