As a fellow Browns fan and Clevelander I agree. Fans are finally starting to realize everything he brings to the table. Too many base that all on flashy stats like INTs and Sacks, but Williams knows how critical of a role Pep plays.
Unfortunately though, there are still plenty of OSU + Browns fans that continue to hate.
If there is any Michigan athlete that I would go through the free trial hassle of that site for just so I could read an article about them, it would be Denard.
I don't see an issue with a raise in admission standards, especially when that is mostly falling on out of state students, as there are more of them competing for less spots. If you want Michigan to keep improving, continuing as one of the top universities in the world, you can't just take Michigan kids at a 50% acceptance rate.
Interesting note, the NFL guys are saying Jabrill hasn't practiced any of the LBs drills. He thought he'd just be doing DB drills, but the combine is making him workout as a LB. He's on the sidelines practicing the drills before he has to go do them for the first time
Tomorrow he'll work out as a DB
Michigan's acceptance rate has actually fallen in the last few years because of the common app. By making it easier for more students to apply, but the total open spots staying the same, they can admit less people. This has also raised certain metrics like incoming ACT scores.
In State students had an acceptance rate in the 40, OOS in the 20s and International at like 10, last I checked. Bringing in more OOS students would actually help Michigan 1) Make money, 2) Further improve those incoming class metrics 3) and continue to lower the acceptance rate. Of course, Michigan literally gives no aid to OOS students (not that they have to) so that will be tough.
Some schools purposely attempt to get as many kids to apply to the school so they can artificially inflated (deflate?) their acceptance rate. They'll send fliers to students that have no business applying there. Also, I thought you applied to the Cali public university system as a whole, so if you are shooting for a lower teir uni, you can still get shot down by a better one. This then lowers their acceptance rate.
I wouldn't take the overall US News Rankings that seriously. The system is stacked against Public Universities and stacked against schools that don't play the game. Look at the employers that recruit there. This may not be the best example, because Michigan Engineering is still top notch, but I was talking to a recruiter from Lockheed Martin. He said they don't evevn attend Career Fairs anymore and only go to about 8 schools, Michigan being one of them. Stanford's president has also been on record saying it is ridiculous how low Michigan is ranked.
To the people who's opinion on this type of thing actually matter, they know Michigan is better than 29th. Don't take some publication that purposely moves its ranking's around to create contreversy and sell subscriptions as set in stone
We're still complaining about the student section when the rest of the stadium was damn near home field for OSU? How about season ticket holders and alumni stop selling their tickets to the enemy before we complain about the students.
FYI, I was in the top 20 rows in the student section (17 I think). The unfilled area was above the student section that isn't really the student section. Plus it gets really backed up trying to get into the stadium thanks to general admissions. Plus, it was thanksgiving break
All the alumni and season ticket holders that sold their tickets should be ashamed of themselves. Half the posters on here want us students to get penalized for showing up late, how about we penalizing those that sell their tickets to the enemy? I was there early, first 20 rows of the student section, and there were more OSU fans there for a long time. They had a mini homefield on the other side
All the alumni and season ticket holders that sold their tickets should be ashamed of themselves. Half the posters on here want students to get penalized for showing up late, how about we penalizing those that sell their tickets to the enemy
So much freaking complaining on this board, jesus christ.
What do you expect out of Gardner? Is he supposed to single handedly carry the team and make every single throw while fighting off crazy pressure, no run game and poor play calling? It is amazing he is still standing. We need to hope we didn't break him physically and mentally for next season.
What is expected out of the defense? They hold PSU to barely anything all game, while having an O that isn't helping them at all, but because they let up one drive they blew it? Are they supposed to stop every single drive then while getting no rest at all and shitty starting position? How could anyone even think about blaming the D or pointing any blame at Mattison? Do you remember what this D was before he got here? Do you not see what he's done with the same players and now his young recruits?
And everyone complaining about Hole not yelling at a press conference? How does having a coach that is an emotional wreck help us at all? Do you seriously think that because he didn't yell and scream that he's forty that he doesn't support the team? Support the players? Care about what happens? That is retarded. I don't want my team's coach making any stupid distracting comments in fron of the media. That helps no one.
Overall the vibe on here, god damn. So much bitching and moaning. Sure, the season has not gone like we have expected. The losses have hurt. If your solution to that, or your result from that is to complaining about everything, even the players that are busting their asses, and then whine and moan about not watching the game, or how big of a blowout it will be... wtf? Don't go to the game if you are one of these people, please. The team doesn't need you. Give your ticket to an actual fan, not a fairweather walmart sob. The team doesn't need their own fans booing them.
I'm not saying you can't be critical of the coaches or the team or whatever. But the sadsack mentality on here, the pessimistic nature, the overall bitching and moaning. That's not what I'd expect a michigan fan base to act like. It is sad.
Everyone in the student section was watching this guy and we all saw him hurt himself. It was impressive to see him still carry on and try to get through, and he finally got the one move he was working on to work (twirled the batton quickly at the ground out in front of him and had it bounce back). When it finally happened everyone cheered for this guy and he then hobbled off. Props to him for sticking around to get the move done.
Well, I can tell you that all of those students were probably there, just not in their seats yet. I spent maybe 30-45 minutes being corralled from one line to the next like cattles when all I wanted to do was get into my seat. That is GA. It is a horrible idea and causes more problems than it fixes.
Everyone complaning about the wave, why do you think that is happening? Maybe it is because freshman and sophomores can sit wherever they want to, like idk, in the front where the wave normally starts. They mess a lot of stuff up, more than just the wave. That is GA...
Today was one of the family pack ticket days. My parents came in and we sat in section 15. This was my first time not sitting in the student section...
... you want to talk sad? How about a hald full student section being LOUDER than the rest of the stadium. Shit. No one wanted to make any noise where I was, it was pathetic. I tried to on many occassions and no one else did around me and it made me feel weird.
The last few Akron drives though I said fuck it and made as much noise as I could. I think I got some of these lazy ass non-student fans to make noise too.
I kind hope the low student section attendance had to do with GA. As a SR, I went each year expecting slightly better and better tickets. I was pumped for this year to sit really close. Then this GA bullshit just threw that out the window. I'm leaving for the ND game like 2.5+ hours early and getting seats around row 60... bullshit.
I shouldn't have to completely abonded everything else I am doing for hours on hours before the game just to prove I'm a "real fan". I grew up in Ohio and went through all of Middle School and High School without Michigan beating OSU, but I still wore my Wolverines gear proud. I waited my turn for tickets and now this year that's all out the window
I got there about two hours early and the line to get into section 26 was horrible. It kept wrapping around on itself and the 2 middle aged women there that were supposed to keep everyone from cutting did NOTHING. We had to hear it from them as people just walked by and cut in line. Eventually everyone had too much (even my group and others that were tying to wait in line) and it became a mob free for all to get into the secition opening. Packed in there like sardines, shoulder to shoulder, no free movement. They are lucky someone didn't get hurt (though paramedics did try to get to someone a little bit back). We were like this for a good 45 minutes, at least.
Some of it was funny though, like all of the movie quotes people were yelling (Braveheart stuff, "Hold your ranks!") etc as pushing ensued. One kid was jokingly yelling "Everyone forward on 3. 1. 2. 3!"... but then literally everyone pushed forward anyway haha. Mob mentatlity. Drunk people. Whow knows, but it was pretty crazy.
To end it all I had like row 60ish seats which pisses me off because I'm a Sr... should be way higher up. That was heard from a lot of the seniors around me. A "Fuck Dave Brandon" chant started a couple times, and he was booed as he was mentioned pre game.
All I am hearing is sweeping generaliztions about all the students. "All the students are late" "All the students rip on the other sections" "All the students don't care"
Give me a break...
This GA policy is BS and it screws over all of next year's seniors, like myself. Students like myself are being punished for a minority of student offenders and the group of complaining alumni.
You are gonna sit here and act like its every student that gets drunk and shows up late? Or that every student is some dumb freshman that doesn't show. The vast majority of us shouldn't be taken down with the drunk greek kids and no shows.
Sure, there was some GA seating before. But if a group of drunk sorority girls got to the game in the 2nd and told you to get out of their seats you tell them to F off.
The current system basically reserves those seats you earned until the game starts. You can sit with larger groups of friends all you like as long as you are moving further up to do it.
As a student that will be a Sr next year I am pissed. I spent 3 years up high, working my way down to better seats, just to have that essentially taken away thanks to some crappy minority.
You can't reference what happened after the BCS title game selection in 2006the as validation for the choices because that info was not known to the voters at the time.
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Of course I watched, I was at the game. I have it all on my phone. I made sure to get those funny signs before each play too.
what a fucking game
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As a fellow Browns fan and Clevelander I agree. Fans are finally starting to realize everything he brings to the table. Too many base that all on flashy stats like INTs and Sacks, but Williams knows how critical of a role Pep plays.
Unfortunately though, there are still plenty of OSU + Browns fans that continue to hate.
If there is any Michigan athlete that I would go through the free trial hassle of that site for just so I could read an article about them, it would be Denard.
I don't see an issue with a raise in admission standards, especially when that is mostly falling on out of state students, as there are more of them competing for less spots. If you want Michigan to keep improving, continuing as one of the top universities in the world, you can't just take Michigan kids at a 50% acceptance rate.
Hope he lands on a decent team
Michigan's acceptance rate has actually fallen in the last few years because of the common app. By making it easier for more students to apply, but the total open spots staying the same, they can admit less people. This has also raised certain metrics like incoming ACT scores.
In State students had an acceptance rate in the 40, OOS in the 20s and International at like 10, last I checked. Bringing in more OOS students would actually help Michigan 1) Make money, 2) Further improve those incoming class metrics 3) and continue to lower the acceptance rate. Of course, Michigan literally gives no aid to OOS students (not that they have to) so that will be tough.
Some schools purposely attempt to get as many kids to apply to the school so they can artificially inflated (deflate?) their acceptance rate. They'll send fliers to students that have no business applying there. Also, I thought you applied to the Cali public university system as a whole, so if you are shooting for a lower teir uni, you can still get shot down by a better one. This then lowers their acceptance rate.
I wouldn't take the overall US News Rankings that seriously. The system is stacked against Public Universities and stacked against schools that don't play the game. Look at the employers that recruit there. This may not be the best example, because Michigan Engineering is still top notch, but I was talking to a recruiter from Lockheed Martin. He said they don't evevn attend Career Fairs anymore and only go to about 8 schools, Michigan being one of them. Stanford's president has also been on record saying it is ridiculous how low Michigan is ranked.
To the people who's opinion on this type of thing actually matter, they know Michigan is better than 29th. Don't take some publication that purposely moves its ranking's around to create contreversy and sell subscriptions as set in stone
The only people that take the US News Rankings seriously are high school seniors and their parents
Fantastic job. Can't wait for this summer
We're still complaining about the student section when the rest of the stadium was damn near home field for OSU? How about season ticket holders and alumni stop selling their tickets to the enemy before we complain about the students.
FYI, I was in the top 20 rows in the student section (17 I think). The unfilled area was above the student section that isn't really the student section. Plus it gets really backed up trying to get into the stadium thanks to general admissions. Plus, it was thanksgiving break
It sucks all those alumni and season ticket holders sold their tickets to OSU fans...
But us damn kids though... right? That damn student section...
All the alumni and season ticket holders that sold their tickets should be ashamed of themselves. Half the posters on here want us students to get penalized for showing up late, how about we penalizing those that sell their tickets to the enemy? I was there early, first 20 rows of the student section, and there were more OSU fans there for a long time. They had a mini homefield on the other side
All the alumni and season ticket holders that sold their tickets should be ashamed of themselves. Half the posters on here want students to get penalized for showing up late, how about we penalizing those that sell their tickets to the enemy
So much freaking complaining on this board, jesus christ.
What do you expect out of Gardner? Is he supposed to single handedly carry the team and make every single throw while fighting off crazy pressure, no run game and poor play calling? It is amazing he is still standing. We need to hope we didn't break him physically and mentally for next season.
What is expected out of the defense? They hold PSU to barely anything all game, while having an O that isn't helping them at all, but because they let up one drive they blew it? Are they supposed to stop every single drive then while getting no rest at all and shitty starting position? How could anyone even think about blaming the D or pointing any blame at Mattison? Do you remember what this D was before he got here? Do you not see what he's done with the same players and now his young recruits?
And everyone complaining about Hole not yelling at a press conference? How does having a coach that is an emotional wreck help us at all? Do you seriously think that because he didn't yell and scream that he's forty that he doesn't support the team? Support the players? Care about what happens? That is retarded. I don't want my team's coach making any stupid distracting comments in fron of the media. That helps no one.
Overall the vibe on here, god damn. So much bitching and moaning. Sure, the season has not gone like we have expected. The losses have hurt. If your solution to that, or your result from that is to complaining about everything, even the players that are busting their asses, and then whine and moan about not watching the game, or how big of a blowout it will be... wtf? Don't go to the game if you are one of these people, please. The team doesn't need you. Give your ticket to an actual fan, not a fairweather walmart sob. The team doesn't need their own fans booing them.
I'm not saying you can't be critical of the coaches or the team or whatever. But the sadsack mentality on here, the pessimistic nature, the overall bitching and moaning. That's not what I'd expect a michigan fan base to act like. It is sad.
Everyone in the student section was watching this guy and we all saw him hurt himself. It was impressive to see him still carry on and try to get through, and he finally got the one move he was working on to work (twirled the batton quickly at the ground out in front of him and had it bounce back). When it finally happened everyone cheered for this guy and he then hobbled off. Props to him for sticking around to get the move done.
Did he really tear his ACL though? Damn.
Well, I can tell you that all of those students were probably there, just not in their seats yet. I spent maybe 30-45 minutes being corralled from one line to the next like cattles when all I wanted to do was get into my seat. That is GA. It is a horrible idea and causes more problems than it fixes.
Everyone complaning about the wave, why do you think that is happening? Maybe it is because freshman and sophomores can sit wherever they want to, like idk, in the front where the wave normally starts. They mess a lot of stuff up, more than just the wave. That is GA...
Today was one of the family pack ticket days. My parents came in and we sat in section 15. This was my first time not sitting in the student section...
... you want to talk sad? How about a hald full student section being LOUDER than the rest of the stadium. Shit. No one wanted to make any noise where I was, it was pathetic. I tried to on many occassions and no one else did around me and it made me feel weird.
The last few Akron drives though I said fuck it and made as much noise as I could. I think I got some of these lazy ass non-student fans to make noise too.
I kind hope the low student section attendance had to do with GA. As a SR, I went each year expecting slightly better and better tickets. I was pumped for this year to sit really close. Then this GA bullshit just threw that out the window. I'm leaving for the ND game like 2.5+ hours early and getting seats around row 60... bullshit.
I shouldn't have to completely abonded everything else I am doing for hours on hours before the game just to prove I'm a "real fan". I grew up in Ohio and went through all of Middle School and High School without Michigan beating OSU, but I still wore my Wolverines gear proud. I waited my turn for tickets and now this year that's all out the window
Fuck Dave Brandon
Blame GA and blame freshman and sophomores getting up front.
I didn't participate at all in the wave on Saturday. Other upperclassmen around me didn't either. It wasn't "the whole student section".
GA looks great to alumni and other people on the outside, but it is a mess to the students and completely unfair to seniors.
I got there about two hours early and the line to get into section 26 was horrible. It kept wrapping around on itself and the 2 middle aged women there that were supposed to keep everyone from cutting did NOTHING. We had to hear it from them as people just walked by and cut in line. Eventually everyone had too much (even my group and others that were tying to wait in line) and it became a mob free for all to get into the secition opening. Packed in there like sardines, shoulder to shoulder, no free movement. They are lucky someone didn't get hurt (though paramedics did try to get to someone a little bit back). We were like this for a good 45 minutes, at least.
Some of it was funny though, like all of the movie quotes people were yelling (Braveheart stuff, "Hold your ranks!") etc as pushing ensued. One kid was jokingly yelling "Everyone forward on 3. 1. 2. 3!"... but then literally everyone pushed forward anyway haha. Mob mentatlity. Drunk people. Whow knows, but it was pretty crazy.
To end it all I had like row 60ish seats which pisses me off because I'm a Sr... should be way higher up. That was heard from a lot of the seniors around me. A "Fuck Dave Brandon" chant started a couple times, and he was booed as he was mentioned pre game.
They are showing the game on the NFL Network as well
Student bashing on this site is ridiculous.
All I am hearing is sweeping generaliztions about all the students. "All the students are late" "All the students rip on the other sections" "All the students don't care"
Give me a break...
This GA policy is BS and it screws over all of next year's seniors, like myself. Students like myself are being punished for a minority of student offenders and the group of complaining alumni.
I can be committed to Michigan and the football team without being at the stadium 3+ hours before the game.
I shouldn't be given the same chance at good seats as a freshman just because a minority of students show up late.
You are gonna sit here and act like its every student that gets drunk and shows up late? Or that every student is some dumb freshman that doesn't show. The vast majority of us shouldn't be taken down with the drunk greek kids and no shows.
Sure, there was some GA seating before. But if a group of drunk sorority girls got to the game in the 2nd and told you to get out of their seats you tell them to F off.
The current system basically reserves those seats you earned until the game starts. You can sit with larger groups of friends all you like as long as you are moving further up to do it.
As a student that will be a Sr next year I am pissed. I spent 3 years up high, working my way down to better seats, just to have that essentially taken away thanks to some crappy minority.
We get it.. you're Detroit, shits hard, but you're still going... congrats... you're so awesome for not crumbling and fighting on.....
Become a Brown please.
We'll draft Kendell Wright for you
Hence, Oversigning Bowl Part II
Well we'll just have to see how many players Saban cuts
woops... I mean, how many players get career ending injuries where there is no possible chance of recovery
That's what happens when you oversign and abuse medical harships.... you win football games
The Oversigning Bowl Part II
that sucked
So who else is not watching this game?
My ESPN Gamecast says it is 9-0 now.
.... wait....
what comes after 9? I think Bama scored the max number of points
of course I don't
Mike Hart
of course I don't have memories of watching most of the other guys that were mentioned
Denard's awesome too
Where is her GIF?
Fantastic
Braxton Miller could be scary good by that time though
Oversigning
Other underhanded tactics like excessive medical hardships, paying players, etc.
Never having to worry about academics