this week in unintentionally grim-sounding recruiting headlines
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|1 year 40 weeks ago||I was joking, mostly||
But I think Miami self imposing last year is the best indicator they would have indeed banned themselves after say a 6-1 start vs 6-5. Their record last year was just as bad, but they still threw away a (very unlikely) potential BCS game appearance.
|1 year 40 weeks ago||Disagree on the recruiting hit||
Miami got absolutely killed in recruiting because of the uncertainty regarding potential future sanctions. Not sure how you can say "most of the recruiting cycle was over" by late November, especially when Miami had to flip guys in January and February. Just my opinion.
BTW I remember your site, I used to have my own MIami one a few years ago, and you were one of the first to come around, so a belated thanks for that.
|1 year 40 weeks ago||Kind of presumptuous||
To ban yourself from a bowl game when you were bad enough to possibly not even qualify for one, don't ya think? Miami banned themselves once they became eligible at 6 wins.
|2 years 21 weeks ago||Florida Gulf Coast > Penn State||
I'll let myself out.
|2 years 26 weeks ago||Great article||
Whether you agree or not. And those away jerseys with actual sleeves are beautiful.
|2 years 26 weeks ago||that's funny re: Baylor||
No, I agree. Miami will get hit with scholarships at this point. I think before this came down it was going to be 5/year for 3 years, with the outside chance at another bowl ban. Now, I think 3-4/year for 2-3 years, I can't decide. But definitely no additional bowl ban.
Even if Miami somehow "skates," they wouldn't be getting off free. They banned themselves from two bowl games, and suspended a bunch of players last year. What worked in their favor was the fact they sucked already. Self sanctioning a Sun Bowl and a Russell Athletic Bowl doesn't make for the best trophy hunters when it comes to bloodlust for the rest of the country.
|2 years 26 weeks ago||It was pretty clear from the||
It was pretty clear from the start the ncaa was looking to make an example out of Miami for a future deterent, and most likely, rightfully so. The ridiculous letter stating "if you don't talk, we're assuming you're guilty" proved that point.
My guess is this will keep Miami from getting another bowl ban. They will probably still get scholarship hits, just maybe not as prolonged as previously thought.
And don't hate on Miami just because their illegal recruiting resources (hookers, rims, abortions, as you eloquently put) are better than what middle of nowhere state school towns can throw at recruits.
|2 years 26 weeks ago||They only got that||
They only got that information by feeding the bankruptcy lawyer questions to ask. Does it prove Miami is innocent? Of course not. And yes, the NCAA could still use any info they got through any means, because they aren't a court of law. Problem is, if they punished Miami this way, their lawyers would (I'm guessing here) destroy the NCAA in the appeals process. [internet lawyer hat, removed]
|2 years 40 weeks ago||I think I saw that MSU chrome helmet||
on my Grandma's Xmas tree back in '92
|2 years 43 weeks ago||This is This||
Love the reference. Brian you're at your absolute best talking about the Carr era. It's why I started coming here in the first place.
|2 years 44 weeks ago||The 10K and 17K was comparing||
The 10K and 17K was comparing apples to apples from the US News report, no grad school included. In that case it would USC with 38K and Miami with 16K. But your point is taken.
Although I could go a few more rounds discussing ND and the fact they've been around forever and are the defacto school rooting choice for an entire religion. But I'll leave it as Miami fans suck, through and through. Go Canes!
|2 years 44 weeks ago||Many champion this idea, but||
Many champion this idea, but the city of Coral Gables will never allow something of that nature built on their land. Think Grosse Point Shores x 5 in terms of highbrow mindedness.
And to be honest, I think anything more than 45K doesn't get filled up. Miami's best attendance year since 1980 was in 2002, coming off a national title but also continuing to win the following year. Miami fans treat the school like their 3rd favorite professional sports team in the city.
|2 years 44 weeks ago||The place was actually packed||
but just full of these guys
|2 years 44 weeks ago||If that was the case, I envy||
If that was the case, I envy your attendance years in the independent scheduling bonanza.
|2 years 44 weeks ago||Combining responses here, but||
Combining responses here, but not sure how Miami's 10K and change is higher than USC's 17K, going off the recent US News report. And most corrupt of the 80s? SMU clearly takes that by a mile. We could probably throw a few SEC teams in here before Miami. Their big scandal was the early 90s Pell Grant fun.
But, as I said earlier, I agree Miami fans suck. I was just curious as to Brian's inherent hatred towards kicking the rolling dumpster fire that is Miami's program right now. In lieu of Brian responding, If that's the case as you say, I guess it'll have to suffice as my answer. Like my ghost tree stand hunting commerical.
|2 years 45 weeks ago||I see this was deleted almost immediately||
which is very fitting for its lack of facts. Did you go to Miami? Because I did. I guess my eyes were deceiving me when 75K would pack in for Florida State and VT, and barely 40K would show up for Rutgers, WVU, or a top 20 ranked Syracuse and Washington.
The Orange Bowl was one of the most intimidating stadiums to play in, only surpassed by a rocking Silverdome in my opinion.
Don't disagree on Sun Life being a terrible place to play, in any capacity. But 45 mins from campus without traffic for a 20 mile all-freeway drive? I think not. But at this point we're just arguing semantics.
|2 years 45 weeks ago||Well as one might see from my avatar, I'm a Miami fan||
and grew up a Michigan fan, hence the frequenting of this fine blog. And I agree wholeheartedly, the stereotypical Miami fan is terrible. I was more curious as to why Brian is choosing now to harp on something that has always been the case. Miami fans never show up - I think they averaged 45K in 2001, for arguably the best cfb team ever. Miami will never have the infrastructure of a 50K enrollment rolling over each year into a ridiculously large alumni base. But to say or insinuate they specifically aren't what cfb "stands for" when in reality all they did was get caught and pick the wrong guy to be their booster, while cheating is as rampant as it ever was, all across the nation? Come on.
|2 years 45 weeks ago||Serious question Brian||
why such intense and constant Miami hate?
|2 years 45 weeks ago||I think a win against ND||
for Michigan is always beneficial in the fact they play them so early each season. So even in this recent lengthy period of ND medicrity, Michigan receives a polls jump they probably didn't deserve at the time, and definitely didn't deserve in hindsight.
You assume a playoff committee can differentiate between an early season win over a 2-0 ND vs looking at a whole 7-5 ND season resume. But the early jump in the polls and obviously sustaining it could make a big difference when choosing the top .
|2 years 50 weeks ago||Miami was given tons of shit||
Miami was given tons of shit for not putting out a media guide this year, but their Asst AD's reason was the fact they are immediately obsolete. They literally just stapled a bunch of sheets together, not even in color. Of course, it just played into the whole Miami is Frugal meme. But I think it should be heading towards online media guides. The press should be able to live without those colorful thick covers to start at.
|3 years 9 weeks ago||Much longer than 18||
Much longer than 18 months.....
|3 years 9 weeks ago||Diehards commence||
And someone please tell me the name of the tree stand hunting infomercial that was on every single Sunday before Michigan Replay in the Lloyd era. I've been searching for it for years.
|3 years 27 weeks ago||Well, that saves me the||
Well, that saves me the trouble. Thanks.
|3 years 27 weeks ago||Lloyd had a pretty nice seat||
Lloyd had a pretty nice seat there on the bench next to Beilen.
|3 years 27 weeks ago||Nice find||
My non-internet searched memory always remember the fake field goal as the 2nd year UM lost to a beatable PSU team, thus further exaborating the 3 loss seasons before playing OSU each year. Now I'll have to research the 96 game to store that memory as truth.
And WOW. That play was sooooo demoralizing. I've thought of that exact play at least once every year, especially with the recent Les Miles fake fg extravaganzas.
|3 years 27 weeks ago||Wasn't it the '96 PSU game||
Wasn't it the '96 PSU game they ran a fake field goal at the end up one score to effectively end the game?
|3 years 41 weeks ago||If true, that's a horrendous||
If true, that's a horrendous trade for Shafer. Destroy your building reputation as a DC for some private personal vengeance?
|3 years 42 weeks ago||But said no to any other||
But said no to any other Texas schools. So no SMU (somewhat probable with Texas politics), Houston (farfetched), or even UTSA (ha Larry Coker). Anyways, what this means is the Big East is dead, dead, deader than dead. Fire sale coming on!
|3 years 42 weeks ago||Michigan has both Nebraska||
Michigan has both Nebraska and Ohio State home or away on the same year. Nebraska has only one other top tier intradivision team (UM) so the issue is moot, unless you want to count MSU or Iowa as the same tier as PSU/Wisc/OSU. Ohio State splits with Wisconsin and Penn State the same each year, against Michigan the opposite. Obviously the reason is UM/OSU is a locked in interdivisional game, whereas other teams aren't locked into that quality of an opponent. And having Michigan State opposite the NU/OSU years I guess sets up the same situation as OSU's.
Fair enough counterpoints. My point was the same as Brian's - why as a paying customer (not as a die hard fan) would you ever consider buying season tickets to even numbered years?
|3 years 42 weeks ago||With all of Brandon's marketing "prowess"||
You'd think he wouldn't put Notre Dame, Nebraska, and Ohio State as home games all on the same year. Perhaps when the ND game takes a break this can be changed, but yes, I'd want an a la carte season ticket package. Pay up for odd years, skip the evens.