World Cup Open Thread (Quarterfinals - Day 2)

Submitted by Randy Marsh on

People were too hungover to make one on time I guess. Today we have:

 

Argentina - Belgium (12 PM Eastern, ABC)

Costa Rica - Netherlands (4 PM Eastern, ESPN)

Messi and Co. already up early 1-0 on the waffles.

blackstarwolverine

July 5th, 2014 at 6:59 PM ^

I see it no other way. Unless Brazil get another repeat ref performance from Friday, Germany should be able to handle them. No Neymar, no Thiago Silva, no win. Schweinsteiger and Khedira appearing to be fully fit will allow the Germans to dominate midfield and control the game, as they did to France. What Mexico did to the Dutch convinces me that the Argentines will advance. Di Maria (if he returns) and Lavezzi should keep the the wing-backs occupied, and Mascherano can shackle Sneijder.

Yeoman

July 5th, 2014 at 10:11 PM ^

They're able to go 90 if the game's under control, but they're still coming back from knee and ankle injuries and how fit will they be after they've been kicked around for 90 minutes?

I expect it to look like the final four years ago. Except that this time there'll be another match to play.

alum96

July 5th, 2014 at 10:09 PM ^

Robben is crazy dangerous but I'd put Wesley Sneijder as key #2 over RVP and I am a huge RVP fan from way back in the day he got injured every 3 minutes.  Sneijder was robbed of 2 goals today and is the engine.  RVP is party favors.  He sort of disappears in knockout rounds as well. 

Neither Argentina nor Dutch have been lights out so certainly either can win, but Dutch are living on the edge with Mexico and today PKs.   I think at this point a case could be made for 3 teams and unfor Brazil is basically down their version of Messi and one of the world's best defenders.  Their offense has been very Neymar oriented just as Argentina has been very Messi focused.

rob f

July 5th, 2014 at 7:20 PM ^

other than the last few World Cups, I've never paid much attention to soccer.  But the more I watch these World Cups every 4 years, the more I realize that even a 0-0 game can be pretty exciting ---except when it's settled by a penalty-kick shootout.

Can't they come up with a better way of settling games of such importance?  It really comes down to the goalies guessing right or left/wrong as to which direction to dive.  Might as well flip a coin....

RioThaN

July 5th, 2014 at 7:25 PM ^

To be fair it isn't just kicking the penalty and diving, you saw Van Gaal subbing the goalkeeper who is better at penalties, also you have to take into account that the players are tired after 2 hours of running and the mental aspect as well, the players have their whole country watching at them and it could be pretty nerve wrecking.

Yeoman

July 5th, 2014 at 9:55 PM ^

Like Lehmann in '06, Krul went the right way on every single penalty.

That's not luck, that's preparation. Maybe they always take it the same way. Maybe they have a couple of different strokes but there's something in the run up that tips it off. Spend enough time in the film room, you'll eventually pick it up.

alum96

July 5th, 2014 at 10:12 PM ^

I've proposed taking a man off for each team in OT and giving 2 additional subs.  So you'd have 9 on 9 soccer (field players) and 2 sets of fresh legs.  It would help teams with depth and talent, and probably hurt teams who are in defensive shells and less talented but in theory those are not teams that should advance.

It is basically like deciding a basketball tournament ending in a free throw shooting contest.  Yes there is SOME minor strategy in terms of tendencies in it but it's not a soccer game.   Someone else said they'd like to see corner kicks or free kicks as a decider... I'd rather see that than PKs but that would help teams who excel in those areas which are generally tall peeps like the Germans.  If Peru ever got to the WC and had to face Germany and it was 0-0 and they said "well let's go to corners" it would not be fun.