Wednesday Bowl Post: What are we smoking right now?
Let's make this a weekly tradition. or not I probably will not remember. What are currently smoking/vaping?
I am currently working my way through some super lemon haze from Information Entropy. I typically stick to sativa strains. I enjoy the taste and the energy of this strain.
I also have some Obama Kush as well for night time chill time. Love the fully body high.
September 1st, 2021 at 1:09 PM ^
Smoking is so 2004. It's all about the edibles and waxes, dudes. But I like your style. Respect the purist.
September 1st, 2021 at 1:17 PM ^
Yea I don't mess with anything but flower. totally different feel from everything else. it's a magical plant and I think you lose a lot of that when processed/cooked down.
September 1st, 2021 at 4:22 PM ^
I don't know if they're available nationwide, but Mindy's gummies are tasty and reliable. Further, you can really control your dose. I like flower on occasion and usually trust the budtender's recommendation but Mindy's is a good choice for something to mellow you out after a day of chasing problems at work.
By the way...I cut way back on drinking this summer (prostate cancer might have helped with that decision) and have dropped around 10 pounds sticking primarily to cannabis.
September 1st, 2021 at 4:28 PM ^
Sorry about the diagnosis … did my doctoral thesis on PC.
I know if I stopped drinking beer and just had a few glasses of whisky instead I’d lose 10-15 lbs but I’d rather drink a case of beer AND have a few glasses of whisky.
the edibles just don’t hit me the same way
September 1st, 2021 at 10:39 PM ^
Thanks! Treated and about 95% chance it’s cured so yay for early detection.
September 1st, 2021 at 1:37 PM ^
Edibles are too hit or miss to use them regularly. They either send me to Saturn, or they don't do anything at all or just make me sleepy. Maybe I need to find that sweet spot.
September 1st, 2021 at 1:40 PM ^
This. The one brand I got in San Diego did nothing to me except make me a bit thirsty. A few months later I tried a different brand in San Diego on the night of my birthday and basically had to crawl across the floor because I couldn’t stand up.
Not complaining either way
September 1st, 2021 at 1:57 PM ^
same here. They either do nothing, or they make me fall asleep.
September 1st, 2021 at 1:10 PM ^
I bet you have excellent lungs.
September 1st, 2021 at 1:17 PM ^
i bet you're fun at parties
September 1st, 2021 at 1:50 PM ^
I am a distance runner and run at least two marathons a year (been averaging around 3:30-3:40). I don't smoke. Stick to vaping.
September 1st, 2021 at 2:43 PM ^
Hate to break it to you, but vaping - even flower and not concentrates/oils - is likely worse for you than just smoking a bowl/joint.
September 2nd, 2021 at 1:50 AM ^
Pressing X to doubt.
How is vaping flower worse than smoking it? Is resin plus the byproducts of combustion somehow worse for a person's lungs than resin by itself?
September 2nd, 2021 at 12:20 PM ^
Stick with the bong.
To the OP been stuck in cheboygan for a minute getting the diesel on my sailboat repaired. Unlike most of the northern Michigan towns I stay at (tc Charlevoix harbor springs bay harbor Petoskey) they actually have adult use stores here!
Been rocking the mem og and dosido (both livwell about 25% thc indica dominant) while I wait it out.
Cheers.
September 1st, 2021 at 2:43 PM ^
I am a distance runner and run at least two marathons a year (been averaging around 3:30-3:40). I don't smoke. Stick to vaping.
I'm not here to judge anyone. If you want to vape, smoke, take edibles, whatever...have at it. Life isn't all about doing only what's healthy. Certainly what's enjoyable also comes into the equation otherwise we'd just eat, drink, and use substances based on function and not for pleasure. We are not machines. And, I'm sure vaping is in its infancy in terms of studies on its health impact. Your discussion perks the scientist in me to dig into the research a bit, so I'll chime back in later if/when I have the chance to do that. But, I'd hazzard a guess that vaping is not doing your running performance any favors and likely is having some negative impact. The only potential benefit I see offhand (assuming you're vaping cannabis/oil) is for pain relief which may aid in rest & recovery and maybe the CBD for inflammation reduction. But, I'd still guess it's a net negative on performance.
September 1st, 2021 at 3:57 PM ^
I am a scientist as well (molecular biology with a research focus on electronic structures of heme based metalloproteins).
I am actually moving towards vaping for pain relief and anti-inflammatory properties. I am also moving away alcohol, to which my consumption definitely increased during the pandemic shut down. I have a family history of alcohol abuse. I have since decreased my drinking drammatically from averaging easily two beers a night to maybe one beer a week. I don't vape that much anyways. Just after my weekly long run (anywhere from 10 miles to 20 miles) and once during Friday nights to wind down.
September 1st, 2021 at 5:09 PM ^
The unknown with vaping is whether a fraction of vapers will develop 'lung scarring' (interstitial lung disease, fibrosis type) over decades due to carrier. Hard to say, but it is enough of an unknown that I avoid it personally. But who knows.
as i'm sure you are aware, the cases of acute injury (EVALI) seems to have mostly melted away as people use better quality carts and avoid adulterated ones.
(so for now vaping clearly much less risk than smoking for everyone, but absolute risk still TBD)
September 1st, 2021 at 7:04 PM ^
oh I completely understand the risk involved. With the ents groups I started following on reddit, I have been sticking to the better reviewed carts (element live oil, claw, stiizy) and with producers that have less additives to the cart. With dry herb i regularly utilize a water pipe adapter to lower the temperature of the vapor and increase the humidity of the vapor.
September 2nd, 2021 at 5:42 AM ^
That's a problem with some vaping, but it doesn't apply to things like solventless concentrates. I'll vape rosin or hash all day over carts. Or hash rosin. Dear, sweet hash rosin.
I think there are too many variables to say anything about the health risks of vaping, because it refers to so many different methods of use.
The more adulterated the product is, the more risks involved through the supply chain. Just like food.
It's a lot less complicated to squish some buds into rosin than it is to run a QWET/QWISO extraction, make sure the solvent is evaporated safely, add terpenes to replace the ones that were blown off with the solvent, get it into cartridges that are clean, and ship those cartridges safely.
September 2nd, 2021 at 10:55 AM ^
For that reason is why I stick to live rosin and/or moving to dry herb. Just too many unknowns with terps and shady characters that get preferential testing results.
September 1st, 2021 at 7:25 PM ^
I am also moving away alcohol, to which my consumption definitely increased during the pandemic shut down. I have a family history of alcohol abuse. I have since decreased my drinking drammatically from averaging easily two beers a night to maybe one beer a week.
Good for you man. I think a lot of us drank a bit more during the lock downs!
I am a scientist as well (molecular biology with a research focus on electronic structures of heme based metalloproteins).
As someone who works in the sciences you probably know this, but I say it for the group who also may be reading along as a caveat...exercise science is an applied science which uses the scientific method to answer practical questions. In this endeavor there is almost never a universal "yes" or "no" answer and it almost always depends. Be wary of folks who give universal answers to exercise science questions. So, you'd never say "bench pressing is good for you". That would depend on things like the age, health status, injury history, load, volume, & frequency of benching to name a few. Bench pressing might not be a good idea for a baseball pitcher with a lot of wear & tear on his shoulder. It might be perfectly fine for an otherwise healthy 22 year old offensive lineman in football using proper technique and under certain load, volume, & frequency parameters. You get what I'm saying. So, we'd be unwise to make a blanket statement such as "vaping cannabis is bad for running performance" or "vaping cannabis is good for running performance" because it likely depends on who's doing it, the dose and frequency with which they're doing it, and the timing in which they are doing it.
I am actually moving towards vaping for pain relief and anti-inflammatory properties. I don't vape that much anyways. Just after my weekly long run (anywhere from 10 miles to 20 miles) and once during Friday nights to wind down.
After a quick look around there isn't much out there analyzing the effects of vaping cannabis on exercise performance, which is not surprising. I can't find much past COPD patients. But, the way you're describing it, using it twice a week in the evenings after a difficult run in a low to moderate dose...I'd be surprised if that had any negative impact on your performance in a measurable way. I'm sure there's a point where the dose and frequency of using it would have a negative impact, but there isn't enough data to say what those are and it seems likely it would be a lot more frequent than 1-2 times per week at a low to moderate dose, so you probably have nothing to worry about. That was a lot of words to say very little...sorry.
September 1st, 2021 at 1:11 PM ^
No , lets not .
Im sure you can find a high times forum on reddit or somewhere to discuss this .
September 1st, 2021 at 1:49 PM ^
Thank you for this bit of intelligence in the sea of the confederacy of dunces. I honestly don't care how or what or why you decide to use to addle your already muddled thinking further, but this is a site I come to to exalt Michigan sports.
September 1st, 2021 at 1:51 PM ^
michigan football for how much I exalt it, is the definition of a depressant.
September 1st, 2021 at 2:12 PM ^
Unfortunately, I cannot argue with your depressant analysis
September 1st, 2021 at 2:12 PM ^
Unfortunately, I cannot argue with your depressant analysis
September 1st, 2021 at 1:53 PM ^
Then don’t click the thread. I’ll wait to see you complaining in the weekend alcohol thread as well.
September 1st, 2021 at 2:12 PM ^
First off when I see the word " Bowl " mentioned on a football page , drugs are not the first thing that comes to mind .
I havent lost a loved one due to drinking , thankfully . I know many have though and agree a drinking thread on a sports group shouldnt happen either .
I have lost an uncle to drugs (which is what this thread is about)( my uncle was unknowingly given drugs in his beverage before he went swimming , he drowned because of it ) and my mom due to Lung cancer because she could not stop smoking .
The human body is not made to inhale hot vapor or any kind of smoke .
Popular or not I will always speak out against smoking anything or using drugs .
September 1st, 2021 at 2:31 PM ^
It's cute you think alcohol isn't a drug.
September 1st, 2021 at 2:37 PM ^
alcohol is what I am trying to get away from. I have several family members drink themselves into liver failure.
September 1st, 2021 at 3:13 PM ^
I wish every weekend when I wake up with a hangover that weed was used and accepted as socially as alcohol is. I feel 10x worse every time I drink alcohol than when I smoke weed.
September 1st, 2021 at 4:43 PM ^
GoBlueBill, no one cares. And if you don’t care about this, then just don’t click on the link.
As adults were allowed to decide for ourselves what we want to do with our lives and accept the risks.
Also, this is ignorant. the human body has cannabinoid receptors in most tissues, many of which primarily bind to THC. As a species, we have evolved alongside marijuana to the point we have beneficial cellular pathways that respond to endogenous cannabinoids as well as THC. There are massive beneficial health implications from ingesting THC and CBD that were just now unlocking.
Popular or not I will always speak out against smoking anything or using drugs
Popular or not, I will also point out the evolution of our species has been inextricably linked to the use of drugs, psychedelics, and other mind altering substances.
now why don’t you tell us what you do regularly so we can ride in on our high horses and tell you why it’s wrong.
September 1st, 2021 at 2:16 PM ^
Testy, testy aren't We? I thought you stoners were supposed to be super mellow
September 1st, 2021 at 4:45 PM ^
We were until a couple holier than thou jibbronis came in here to put their ignorance on full display
September 1st, 2021 at 4:33 PM ^
This statement shows your total ownership of idiocy.
I have smoked weed with two people who went on to win the Nobel Prize during my time at Berkeley …. are they in the confederacy of dunces with addled and muddy minds?
September 1st, 2021 at 8:36 PM ^
It was Sloan Kettering and Johnny Hopkins and they would blaze that shit every day.
September 3rd, 2021 at 2:18 AM ^
+1 underrated
September 1st, 2021 at 1:15 PM ^
Blue Dream. Always. I have been puffing for 30 years and it's been my go to strain for the last 12 years or so. I love the older classic strains. Seems the point of the new ones is to get as much THC in your head as possible, but I like to be functional so I really don't ever smoke many the new strains (Gelato is good tho). I have tried a bunch but they never suit me.
Hindu Kush, Super Silver Haze, Hawaiian Kush, OG Kush, Jack Herer, Blueberry, Grad Master Kush, Strawberry Cough, BC God Bud,
September 1st, 2021 at 1:33 PM ^
Totally agree on the Gelato as it is one of my favorites. I miss getting a good batch of Blueberry as well. I just picked up some Ice Cream Cookies and it is not to bad.
September 1st, 2021 at 1:40 PM ^
I absolutely love Blue Dream. That's a nice high. I like Jack Herer too.
September 2nd, 2021 at 8:50 PM ^
100% … Blue Dream is also my go-to strain, such amazing sativa-leaning hybrid! Like you, I’m more old-school with my preferred strains: Sour Diesel derivatives, Durban Poison, Super Silver Haze, etc. And like you, I almost exclusively vape raw ground flower… pure, unadulterated natural bud. And I’m in the shape of my life at age 64, including in the midst of section hiking the Pacific Crest Trail. Simply stated, vaping raw flower is NOT a big health risk.
September 1st, 2021 at 1:16 PM ^
Sativa gummy.
September 1st, 2021 at 2:56 PM ^
https://www.skymint.com/estore/?id=337&menu=rec
Jolly edibles had a partnership with Short's Brewing that's fun. The mule beer ones are sativa. Also Treetown gummies had a nice sativa called Energize, and in some of the comments, some people swear they use them instead of coffee, which I would definitely not recommend. Having one while golfing on the other hand...
September 1st, 2021 at 3:01 PM ^
The mimosa gummies are the only ones I've tried from shorts but they were very potent. Would highly recommend
September 1st, 2021 at 1:19 PM ^
I am happy to report I'm smoking absolutely nothing. And havent been since October, 2008 when I quit (yes I know OP you're not referring to tobacco necessarily) for the last time.
13 years clean from cigs. Now that's a GREAT feeling!
September 1st, 2021 at 2:15 PM ^
27 for me. I never tell anyone they should quit. But I do tell them it was the best thing I did for myself healthwise.
September 1st, 2021 at 3:02 PM ^
Congratulations, it'll be 3 years for me in October. It feels great!
September 1st, 2021 at 5:22 PM ^
congrats on quitting smoking. (as everyone knows) smoking is stunningly harmful. What a few people might appreciate less is how smoking specializes in contribute to diseases that cause particularly bad (and drawn out) decreases in quality life...like emphysema but also peripheral vascular disease (bad circulation to arms/legs), strokes, oral cancers (cigars) etc.
September 1st, 2021 at 6:08 PM ^
I quit before my senior year in college. I was up to 2 1/2 packs a day, Yul Brynner-style. That's what happens when you start smoking at age 13. If they suddenly discovered that smoking isn't bad for you after all, I'd be back on the sauce in no time. But until that happens, I don't smoke anything, tobacco, pot, peace pipes......nothing.
September 1st, 2021 at 8:47 PM ^
Yeah, if they announce an asteroid is heading toward earth, I'm going to head home to be with my family but stop on the way for a pack of smokes. (Why that guy would still be working who knows)