ijohnb

September 13th, 2019 at 2:59 PM ^

I do not doubt that Urban Meyer is a great offensive mind and is a great resource for football information, but I am getting a little bit tired of seeing clips of him on this blog and I am definitely not on a first name basis with him.

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B-Nut-GoBlue

September 13th, 2019 at 4:38 PM ^

I've never understood this about our societal norm...why is it weird to refer to someone, i.e. (and usually) someone with a higher profile than us message board folk, by their first name.  First names aren't some formal, off limits nomenclature. In a circle of friends, to refer to someone by their last name in a nickname manner means one is close and and has a relationship with that person; an outsider wouldn't come in to that group and just call someone by their last name like their friends do.

So why in this situation is it necessary to call him "Meyer" versus "Urban".  And if it's because in real life we would greet him by Mr. Meyer, why don't we applicate that on the message boards whenever we're referring to another person (Coach Harbaugh, Mr. Meyer, Mr. Howard).

And then how we refer to these young kids is another matter...are first names okay then coming from an older person since the higher respect typically goes towards the elder...or do we call them Mr. Patterson and Mr. McCaffrey, also?!

And on an unrelated note to wrap this up...what a shitty weekend of football we have ahead.

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bronxblue

September 13th, 2019 at 3:02 PM ^

You know, there are other videos that show you how RPOs work that aren't narrated by a guy who covered up domestic violence and various other transgressions all in service of winning football games.

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bronxblue

September 13th, 2019 at 4:31 PM ^

I'd counter that the X's and O's of how a play works doesn't require Urban Meyer to discuss it.  Also, nobody is denying Meyer is a knowledgeable guy; I just think if OP's point was trying to show us how an RPO worked, he could have linked to, I don't know, Super Bowl-winning Doug Pederson discussing the same.  I don't know his complete background but I didn't see anything in his Wikipedia entry saying how he covered up spousal abuse for other coaches. 

I generally dislike the white-washing that occurs everywhere when a shitty guy goes from the sideline to the booth and everyone sort of gets amnesia and ignores the part where the shitty guy was shitty and instead praises him for being good at the thing he was already paid millions of dollars for and cared more about than, again, the safety and well-being of people he knew were being abused. And that's ignoring all the issues he had at Florida.

But yes, kudos to Urban Meyer for being able to discuss a football concept while in wing tips.

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Reggie Dunlop

September 13th, 2019 at 5:17 PM ^

Urban Meyer invented the RPO while at Utah. And he explained how it was accidentally invented in the video. It was interesting and I enjoyed it. It didn't have anything to do with Zach Smith, Ohio State or spousal abuse. It was about football and I can make that distinction. 

But feel free to be mad about it. Because of you, I don't have to. Thank you for your service. 

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Blue Balls Afire

September 13th, 2019 at 7:29 PM ^

I would say RR invented a variation of the RPO although it wasn't called that at the time.  When he was at Tulane, his QB Shaun King didn't like to get hit so when the backside DE crashed on a read-option, instead of pulling and running around the end, he'd pull and throw in that situation.  King put up huge numbers and got drafted.

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ralphgoblue

September 13th, 2019 at 5:41 PM ^

Urban (yes i can call him Urban)  did not invent the RPO offense

TCU in the early 1950s perfected the RPO which was around for years and years before this ,He used Sammy Baugh and Davie OBrien to run this system

Jack Neumeier and his 1970 Granada Hills High School Highlanders Los Angeles High School football team was making teams quit,after having leads of 60,70 and 80+ before half time.Due to his RPO.spread,speed offense

Urban admitted to taking his offense from Hal Mummie air raid offenses at Valdosta State in the early 1990s ,

A major defensive ruling in the mid 1990s changed football forever and greatly helped Urban ,defensive players were no longer allowed to hit (make contact) with an opposing player 5 yds down field,thus OPENING UP offenses,....

 

TCU 1953 offense

 

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bronxblue

September 13th, 2019 at 5:53 PM ^

No, I got that from the video.  And he technically didn't invent it; Alex Smith did.  It's all very interesting. I simply took issue with Urban Meyer's apparent lack of any real accountability for being a shitty guy who is good at coaching football.  But yes, I'm glad I was able to point this out so you could enjoy watching a video and not think about the guy speaking.  I'll see if I can find some videos of Joe Paterno talking about linebackers in coverage or Rich Rid talking about the read option while making unwelcome advances on his assistant.

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Cliff Keen Fan

September 13th, 2019 at 4:05 PM ^

I hate that I enjoy his film breakdown so much, as basic as it is on these shows. No wonder he won so much, seems like a very good teacher regardless of his ethics....

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