Gentleman Squirrels

April 5th, 2021 at 3:42 PM ^

Seems like more and more teams want former players as their head coach. Davis is obviously a bit different since he was an assistant (and possibly head coach in waiting) for the last 9 years but still in that criteria.

uncle leo

April 5th, 2021 at 3:45 PM ^

Feels very rushed to me.

I don't remember the exact timeline, but it took Michigan at least a few weeks IIRC to land on Juwan.

This was decided in like five days.

This is no way speaks to whether or not Davis will be a good coach; however, as a fan, I want my school looking at all the available options first. I don't think that can be reasonably done in a matter of days.

CursedWolverine

April 5th, 2021 at 3:48 PM ^

Very well could have been decided before Roy stepped down. Beilein unexpectedly left UM, and UM were likely about as unprepared for a search as a major program could be based on the timing. I bet UNC AD was well aware this could happen from internal discussions and what the contingency plan would be.

mackbru

April 5th, 2021 at 4:06 PM ^

Has it occurred to you that perhaps this was contemplated internally prior to this week? I seriously doubt Roy just abruptly decided to retire. And Davis is a longtime and respected assistant with a ton of experience. This seems more like what you'd call a seamless transition.

BroadneckBlue21

April 5th, 2021 at 6:23 PM ^

He’s been their assistant coach for a decade—if they think he’s ready, why wait to pull the trigger? Juwan was not working for UM at the time they were looking and is a kind of contemporary trailblazer for his generation of NBA guys turned assistant turned HC. What “big name” was available? 

snarling wolverine

April 5th, 2021 at 7:52 PM ^

IMO, the fact that Juwan wasn’t coaching here at the time was a plus.  Every organization, no matter how successful, needs some fresh ideas.

If I had been UNC circa 2016, I would have encouraged Davis to get a head coaching job somewhere, so I could see what he could do running his own program.  Remember when we thought LaVall Jordan would succeed Beilein?  

Gameboy

April 5th, 2021 at 3:45 PM ^

All for hiring former players to become your head coach. We certainly are the trendsetters...

Seriously, there is no better way to combat the discrepancies in % of players who are black compared to coaches than to focus on hiring former players.

Gentleman Squirrels

April 5th, 2021 at 3:52 PM ^

Completely agree that this is good for the sport primarily to get more diversity and new blood in the coaching ranks.

However, I don't think Michigan is the trendsetter here. I mean Purdue has had Matt Painter since '05 and even Lavall Jordan at Butler since '17. If you want to look towards hiring an alum who was also a great bball player, Memphis had Penny Hardaway and Georgetown had Patrick Ewing before Michigan hired Howard. Juwan just did the best job with it so far and let's be real, Beilein left a bevy of talent unlike Memphis and Georgetown. Credit to Howard for bringing that talent together (along with transfers) to play as a team and raise their ceiling together.

AZBlue

April 5th, 2021 at 4:58 PM ^

M was a trendsetter but (as pointed out by the squirrelly gentleman above...) not for hiring a former player.-- rather --  for hiring a former marquee player who was a sitting NBA assistant and candidate to become an NBA HC.  In addition - coach Howard paid great attention to hiring a strong staff with extensive college experience (including as a successful college HC) to ease the transition into recruiting, compliance etc.

The wildcard with Coach Howard is hiw his fame affects recruiting and the direct access into the HS and AAU circuit via his sons.  (Remember coach Howard getting press in 2019 from attending and mingling at AAU tourneys during the "dead" period because he was there not as a coach but to watch Jett and Jace play ball.)

Other ARE trying to emulate this - (just read of a mid-tier school targeting an alum who is a sitting NBA assistant but forget which) - but UNC is not a good example.  Indiana probably the school doing the closest job thus far......

  • Hire an Alum with NBA coaching and playing experience?  Check -- (does he get a bonus for head coaching experience or dinged for lack of success? ) 
  • Hire successful former College HC as an assistant?  Check
  • Bring in other assistants with good college pedigree?  If they get Fife (I guess) Check.

What is missing at IU is the recruiting aspect**.  To my knowledge Woodson is not getting shout-outs from reigning NBA MVPs etc. and unless Matta kept his toe in the waters they will be starting fresh on relationships (unless they want some transfers from Clarkston HS via MSU) -----as we saw in Juwan's first year it takes time to build relationships since kids start getting recruited much earlier in hoops.

 

** Yes IU has a built in recruiting advantage as a current/former "blue blood"

 

--As to your second point - I am big on offering the best person the job regardless -------- but if ADs weren't looking outside the usual retread coaching options before "to be safe" and Coach Howard's success helps them expand their search options I am all for that and I think Coach Howard would be very pleased/proud.

AZBlue

April 5th, 2021 at 5:08 PM ^

tRCMB was pretty high on Nate Oats -- given his Michigan background and their myopic view of the MSU hoops program (somewhat like us with football) they assume he would jump at the chance.

And Yes many were not big fans of Fife or the staff in general this season -- citing a "good" staff gets poached where the average assistant tenure under Izzo is measured in decades..

I am not sure Fife being hired by IU -- in a lateral move -- is vindication of his coaching capabilities.  It feels like another "getting the band back together" move by IU though he does know college and the B1G very well to help an outsider like Woodson.  (Remember Matta has been "out of the game" for several years now as well.) 

UM85

April 5th, 2021 at 4:26 PM ^

By all accounts, he likes where he is, he has created a dominant program, the school likes him (reducing the pressure-cooker environment many jobs have), and he makes close to $2mm / year.

Maybe the math to stay where he is simply makes sense to him.  UNC would be a more prestigious  but not necessarily a better job for him.

Um1994

April 5th, 2021 at 5:17 PM ^

Yes, he probably is, and why not!  As noted, he is getting elite recruits now.  Nobody in his league competes with him, which gives him a great record and high seed in the tournament annually.  According to USA Today, it appears that he makes about $2 million a year, which is low by NCAA men's basketball standards for his success (Nebraska pays $4 million!), but he isn't under pressure week in and out.  I think that there may be a few former Boise State football coaches who could give him some advice.

LabattsBleu

April 5th, 2021 at 4:29 PM ^

Few isn't leaving Spokane.

He's been at Gonzaga since 1989...No doubt he's getting a very good salary, and the only other reason to leave is because he wouldn't have been able to win a championship there... Which is no longer the case as clearly he can compete for a championship every year now

not to mention Dan Monsoon's post Gonzaga career is something that would give him pause.

The only job he considered was Oregon, as he is from the area and its his alma mater...even having one of his closest friends as AD and Phil Knight as a patron couldn't entice him to leave.

https://watchstadium.com/the-one-job-mark-few-truly-considered-04-02-2021/

Frank Chuck

April 5th, 2021 at 8:19 PM ^

UNC is THE college basketball example of keeping things in the family.

After Dean Smith retired, longtime Smith assistant Bill Guthridge was promoted.

After stopgap Guthridge retired, former Dean Smith-coached alum Matt Doherty took over.

After Doherty flamed out, Dean Smith's former assistant Roy Williams took over.

After Williams retired, former Dean Smith-coached alum Hubert Davis takes over.